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More to the point that they didn't tarnish their reputations as Manly legends by doing so ...
frank stokes
I discriminate indiscriminately
Thompson is a big in but I don’t think they are THAT much better off than us…
They have a more youthful and mobile forward pack but King is similar to Paseka in impact and Thompson will essentially be their Guac…
Crichton is world-class and they have a much better 9 than us…
We have a much better fullback and I would take our halves combination any day… personally I reckon (Crichton aside) our outside backs are better (although Garrick is out of position)…
what we really need is a couple of Preston / Weak-gutted-dog style forwards that are smart / mobile and defend well… I have really been hoping that Burbo and maybe the duck would step-up but that is yet to happen so maybe MCK or even a modified Talau could be options…
I think we have the bones of a very good side and a bit of fine-tuning will see us being top-4 or better…
Zero issues for me , we can throw the bank at him if you like , but remember , if we do that , there can be no whinges about not buying superstars to fill in our shortcomings.
By the way this applies to Turbo / Jurbo as well , when their contracts come up we need to be sharper as well.
Personally I think Daly will want to stay at Manly , he may well have a future on coaching , and you can bet he’ll have a future at Fox Sports plus he loves living on the beaches.
But , if another team offered him 3 million for two years 🤷🤷🤷🤷
Preston is a good player. They hurt, local juniors playing elsewhere in a position we are a little weak in.
Terry Zarsoff
First Grader
The Humphreys decision is a bit of a head scratcher. As per Bozo's post he can cover a number of positions and I think should have been valued in front of Arthur, Wakeham, Matterson, Simpkin, Waddell (maybe Tevaga). I didn't like it at eh time and I like it less now.
Similarly, Kaeo Weekes. I understand they had to make some decisions and we already had Turbo, Koula to cover his positions however he was always picked for junior NSW rep teams so his class was evident. Where did we play him? Against a rampant Panthers at 5/8 otherwise off the bench and some time at dummy half. I was really hoping he would be a 'dud' after he left us but he is playing very well for the Raiders and is electric.
Similarly, Kaeo Weekes. I understand they had to make some decisions and we already had Turbo, Koula to cover his positions however he was always picked for junior NSW rep teams so his class was evident. Where did we play him? Against a rampant Panthers at 5/8 otherwise off the bench and some time at dummy half. I was really hoping he would be a 'dud' after he left us but he is playing very well for the Raiders and is electric.
frank stokes
I discriminate indiscriminately
I love Preston as a player… all effort… but I did notice he was making some ineffective tackles against the tits last weekend… maybe it was just an off week (or maybe I don’t watch him as closely as Burbo 😉)
Rafferty
Mug punter
Maybe it’s not so much the talent they have v what we have, it’s the way they play their footy and how they recruit to improve their overall game inline with the current version of what it takes to be competitive. Our approach of playing a large pack, signing lumbering and aging forwards, extending also rans, isn’t the recipe for success these days, we seem stuck in a time warp, re our recruitment and I know there’s a lot more to it, but if there are problems and there are, we don’t seem to get it.
Sure we have talented players and probably one of the best in the game, while on him, as much as I hate saying it, injuries have ruined his career and continue to plague his future which disrupts our side year on year and dare I say it, his a little bipolar in playing terms, his not your all in effort player like Edward’s or Teddy, hell even Connor Tracey plays all in and his not on the same scale talent wise. I’m not sure if it comes down to, if Toms on where on, or if where off his off, however if he had the competitive nature of either of the before mentioned players and or the physical constitution, well, outright super star, yes, but sadly not so, unbelievable player but……..
While the Dogs do have a more mobile pack and here’s the kicker, they have been singled out as a little light, (maybe not their fault given how Suttons time played out) so what do they do? They go and sign Leo and are working to bring Pahulu over this season, either way he’ll most likely join them next year if not, his done at the Tits, it all comes down to them granting or refusing his release request. It’s all exciting if you’re a dogs fan. Then their recent recruiting hasn’t been to bad either.
Measure that against our recent approach, Woods, Brown, Taukeiaho (even though he looks like he will improve us, for a year maybe) Jazz, same deal, extending Duck for 3, they just aren’t the type of players to bring the leg speed and high output that’s needed. Let’s not look at the balance of the pack.
If we could wind the clock back and drop this side into the late 80’s mid 90’s, even the early 2000’s I agree we would have the bones of a good side, but not today.
The Sharks have cottoned on, Fitzy’s time at the chooks and his playing style (all energy) has reshaped them, Ciraldo and Gus get it from their time at the Riff and the Dogs are heading in the right direction, Hell even Sticky has worked it out and has the Raiders heading in the right direction, which should make Sundays game interesting.
I don’t really want to sound like I’m constantly bagging our side as I’ve been a life long supporter and a mad passionate one at that, but I’ve become pretty disheartened with how we’ve been travelling over the last 10 years or so and if I’m being honest I don’t see us as a premiership threat, not even remotely close, I also don’t see us as a top 4 side, for a number of reasons. Anyway I hope you’re right and I’m wrong, guess we’ll see how it all unfolds over the balance of the season.
I have both Weekes and Humphries in my Supercoach team ... so I watch them intently ...
Last week ... as a fullback in a winning side ... Weekes scored 21 points ... 34 points the week before ... these are abysmal figures for a fullback ... ... he will have his highlight moments ... but well off the pace of other fullbacks ... may do better in the halves.
Last week Humprey's as a goal kicking halfback scored 67 points and 55 the week before ... very ordinary figures for a halfback ... good player but has demonstrated the creativity of a turnip ... will also have his highlight moments
frank stokes
I discriminate indiscriminately
Agree… I was a massive Weekes fan and thought he was the messiah… he has been good at the Faders but not to the point where I am rotten he left…
Humphries is all hype right now… has definitely been serviceable in the role but made to look good by how bad the Pom was… last week I barely noticed Jamie before he slotted the field goal…
Not saying they going badly but, so far, meh…
JakeyB789
Reserve Grader
Nothing like using Supercoach points to try and justify why we made the right decision letting guys go
Not sure why these guys like Humphreys and Weekes are essentially death-ridden on here, some struggle to accept that maybe we do have some problems with recruitment/retention and will pick out any holes in these early-20s players like they are already finished products. I'm sure Raiders and Souths fans are pretty happy with their purchases and even more pleased with their 2 wins to start the year against more favoured opponents. All while we're getting blown out by the Warriors and showing off our same old attitude and fitness issues we've had in recent years, with our own halfback over 12 years older than these guys holding us out for a bit more cash..
Read most of the posts on here ... can't recall too many death riding them ... in fact, I think the consensus would be the exact opposite of what you are saying. The overwhelming majority would believe they're both good players ...
But the context of my post, which was in response to people lamenting letting them go ... was that neither would, by any measuring criteria, Supercoach or otherwise, be within a bull's roar of DCE and Turbo.
and what your last sentence has to do with the topic I have no idea ...
The '47ers
Your resident two-headed Queenslander
Manly legend's eye-opening call as Cherry-Evans could walk to rival NRL team
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Dogs are not keen on Pahulu any longer they pulled their offer on him.
LeonardCohen
Bencher
Third best defence but agree with everything you suggest.
ive always said that the reasons we don’t buy superstars are (a) they don’t wanna come to Manly and (b) we’ve already got them on the books. I’ve never been one to cry foul about a lack of big signing. Get DCE over the line Manly!
Choc could be right, good to read that he is backing his players, though for a young halve to play first grade the club need a creative number nine, need more from a nine than ball distribution to ease the pressure on young players.
Manly legend's eye-opening call as Cherry-Evans could walk to rival NRL team
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Buddy Love
Hercules! Hercules!
I think he copied pasted that
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