Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by Kalvin, Dec 6, 2018.
That would be a first
So what your saying is because u didn't like walker before he came to manly your quick to put him in the same category of others before he is actually guilty of anything? There's an agenda in your opinion then, as you didn't want walker at manly in the first place
I'm not conde I'm not condemning the guy but to compare Dylan to Snake is a stretch considering past history of both men, chalk and cheese!
I am convinced you are related to pretty boy!
Can't believe this. Doesn't read well for Dylan, but it rarely does in the early stages of reporting incidents like this. If we lose him then that takes some sting out of our tail fro next year now that Kelly has been moved on too. I'm not sure there is much on the market in the way of centres even if we free up Walkers cash. Who would we buy ?? The optimistic view is that it gives an opportunity for a couple of young guys now, which is always exciting to see new talent coming through. Suli, Garrick, Elliot, Funa, Kioa .... who knows who will stand up and grab their chance
Never had issues like this when Baz ran the place .....
Well you finally got 1 on the line.
Both charged with common assault and both stood down immediately by clubs. On the 11th we should know which way Walker will go and then it'll be up to the club/NRL/law to dish out a punishment. If found guilty, I'll guesstimate that the club will release him immediately with 1yr to run on his contract.
Its a bit shallow at this point in time focusing on our prospects of our teams success next season rather than the welfare of the player and his family. These players are adults and like the rest of us have the face the consequences of their own actions. Sadly some actions impact significantly on other people and family members. Domestic Violence is a significant social issue that needs to be eradicated. Serial offenders don't have a future in the game and nor should they. Time will tell.
I hope his fiance and child are ok. Primary thoughts must be with the victims here.
Love your sense of humour Woodsie.
Again ... my point is that there is a difference in severity of an assaualt ..... at this stage we do not know where on the scale of infamy it lies .. my only reference to AFB was to point out this diffrence. one was .... a 115kg man kicking a heavily pregnant woman in the stomach .. the other is .. the Manly NRL player allegedly forced her to the ground while she was holding their baby. I would think that one would attract a far heavier penalty by the courts than the other .... and that the club will make a decision on the severity of the crime ... not on who did it ....
Not necessarily. Violence against women carried out by NRL players is causing damage to the the NRL's brand and the to game itself. In today's climate and the acknowledgement that this sort of behavior is unacceptable at all levels I suspect we will see the NRL and clubs take a very hard line against this behavior and particularly those who seem unwilling to learn in order to protect their brands.
Agree with that .... Toddy wont care much for due process .... and if Manly want to use it as an excuse then .... we will learn however by his treatment whether he is in Dessies plans going forward ..... I was not primarily commentating on the specific case .... just unsuccessfully it seems trying to point out that violence ... whilst wrong ... does have levels ...
Yep, understand what your saying, I'm just pointing out that Walkers charges actually appear to be more severe than AFBs ....at this stage. Who knows when all the facts come to light. Regardless, it's a terrible situation for all involved. Hopefully Walker gets the help he needs. As Gorman says, he may have some demons to sort out.
What are you saying?
Unfortunately recorded violence is often just the tip of the iceberg and there can be far more serious repercussions if these incidents aren't treated seriously and those requiring help don't receive it. That being said, we only have a very small picture of what has occurred so I won't be condemning Dylan until the facts comes out.
Almost 10 years ago, and pretty much ever since, people (Manly fans) were/are jumping up and down about how unfairly Snake was treated after he got charged with sexual assault. Shouldn't Dylan Walker be entitled to the same consideration? Yet it would seem many already have him hung, drawn and quartered before he has his day in court. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Walker is innocent and both the evidence and his pattern of behaviour over the last few years doesn't exactly paint a great picture in his favour. But I'm not going to declare him guilty simply because he has been charged with actions related to DV. But if he is guilty then he should face the consequences, legally and with his league career. But being charged doesn't automatically prove guilt.
The guys a dkhead
I believe his court appearance next week will be simply to enter a plea- guilty, not guilty or no contest are the choices as far as I know. If he pleads guilty then he gets charged & Manly make their move. If he pleads not guilty a later court date is set & it goes to trial. If he pleads no contest I'm not sure what happens then.
I thought Lyle handled the press conference well this morning. Managing all the competing interests in trying to get a strong message across about the club’s values but at the same time as showing support for both the alleged victim and alleged perpetrator is not easily done. I was impressed by him. I am happy to leave it to the court to determine guilt but there is no doubt that allegations such as these damage the club’s brand and the brands of those associated with it (even if the person at the centre of it all is later exonerated). Just think, a couple of days ago the club proudly announced a new sponsor and there was a photo with the CEO and 4 manly players, Dylan the most high profile. If you were a sponsor you might be seriously thinking about whether the brand risk is worth it.
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