The Incomparable Immortal Bob Fulton
Classic post , One of your best feathered friendIf Turbo's hammies turn to steel wires and the Schu's rump remains at half size then we're in for a ripper season. It all hinges on those 2.
Classic post , One of your best feathered friendIf Turbo's hammies turn to steel wires and the Schu's rump remains at half size then we're in for a ripper season. It all hinges on those 2.
The purpose of my comment was to suggest we step back and ask what these forums are about. If I'm here to discuss football, to compare talents, to comment on performance in respect of the game I have no problem. However when we start first of all asuming that we know what a person needs in their personal life, a person we dont know, only read about (often from journos who just write stories to titilate) and watch, dissecting their lives and believing we know what they are going through and what we believe they should do (and of course they will probably never read what we say anyway), I just think its perhaps crossing the line, no matter the good intent that may be there..
I remember learning a very good lesson a few decades ago, one that I knew intuitively but needed to be reminded about. One of my past roles was as an anger management group facilitator. Each time having about fifteen individuals who had been convicted of an offence involving violent reactions to situations. I recall going through the process and discussing individual reactions with them etc. Then one said 'Ron (that's my real name), the problem is you dont live the kind of life I live and the things I face.' He was right and I said so. I dont know the very different journey he had travelled. I can speak of strategies, but even though I knew the fellow reasonably well through my association with him, I really had no idea of the day to day life he had experienced that had led him to this point. What I learned was giving advice is fraught with danger because you are imposing your own values. The answer lies within them and generally they already know what they need to do. The trick is just drawing it out of them and having them face what they know is their reality.
Please Bear ... my interest in the Shu is restricted to whether his option taking has matured ...
One thing for sure is we will know soon enough if he's up to the halves or not. I suspect he will do a reasonable job. I don't think he's the messiah many think he is but if he keeps the pork off he will probably earn a pass mark. Good luck to him.OK. So he is a product. That's logical. His talent serves a purpose for the effectiveness of the team. If he doesnt meet the target, then he loses his position. All I'm saying is that his personal issues are really none of our business. Nothing we say makes a difference. If he has personal issues he has to sort them out himself and no doubt has support people around him to help him tackle any issues causing him problems. He either deals with them or he doesnt. Our concern is about football and skills and performance of the gladiators on the field. Discussing how he should deal with his personal issues is like peeing in the wind.
He may be similar to Cliffy but just who will be the Beaver. Let's face it Cliffy wouldn't have had half the career if he didn't have the Beaver finishing off his moves.In 1986 Manly signed a young player who had been at a couple of Sydney clubs, back to country footy, then back to Sydney. While predominantly a 5/8 he played mostly in the forwards in '86 due to injuries and having more established 5/8. Sound familiar? When he got his chance the following year at 5/8, while a bit inconsistent, he showed some absolute brilliance. The end result for this young man was a premiership and a Clive Churchill Medal. He would go on to have an illustrious career, although inconsistency continued to be an issue until his later years
His name was Cliff Lyons.
I see a lot of Cliffy in Schuster. Plays eyes up, off the cuff footy. It won't always work out, but it will always be hard to defend. He was asked to bulk up to play a position he wasn't used to, he did it. He's now been asked to slim down, by all reports he's done it. Don't underestimate the commitment it takes to do that.
Let's judge him on his results but also give him the leniency to make mistakes, as he will. But I'm tipping he'll learn from those mistakes and improve. He just strikes me someone who has that discipline. Also don't forget he gave up the run Samoa had this year to commit to being the best he can be for Manly.
He deserves us to get around him.
He may be similar to Cliffy but just who will be the Beaver. Let's face it Cliffy wouldn't have had half the career if he didn't have the Beaver finishing off his moves.
In a touch footy match I was marking beaver, and cliffy switched the play and hit nevin cutting back at an angle. He was within arm reach of me but I didn’t even react.Good point and they certainly functioned very well together. But Cliffy wasnt just about Beaver. He set up so many other plays with his magic. Would be good if someone comes along to play that role. Burbo did it at times in the juniors with Schuster. But similarly Schuster was much more than his clever plays with Burbo
Come on , where was that one percentage extra effort . and so much on the line i am sureIn a touch footy match I was marking beaver, and cliffy switched the play and hit nevin cutting back at an angle. He was within arm reach of me but I didn’t even react.
Also with someone like Cliffy or the Schu you just have to follow them into some space and they will in most cases they get you the ball ,Cliffy did that countless times, and I am looking forward to the Schu continuing the traditionGood point and they certainly functioned very well together. But Cliffy wasnt just about Beaver. He set up so many other plays with his magic. Would be good if someone comes along to play that role. Burbo did it at times in the juniors with Schuster. But similarly Schuster was much more than his clever plays with Burbo
Also with someone like Cliffy or the Schu you just have to follow them into some space and they will in most cases they get you the ball ,Cliffy did that countless times, and I am looking forward to the Schu continuing the tradition
I assumed he’d pass it to Menzies.Come on , where was that one percentage extra effort . and so much on the line i am sure
Actually on further reflection , that Cliffy move seems suspiciously like the 97 G F Nevin try from fullback just before half time . Good yarn though , .I assumed he’d pass it to Menzies.
We don't mention that game around hereActually on further reflection , that Cliffy move seems suspiciously like the 97 G F Nevin try from fullback just before half time . Good yarn though , .
It’s true Al, I was in a touch game vs manly 90s legends.Actually on further reflection , that Cliffy move seems suspiciously like the 97 G F Nevin try from fullback just before half time . Good yarn though , .
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