Salary Cap Witch Hunt. **Appeal unsuccessful**

[Ryan]

Ryan Lyall turfed him from his ‘consulting’ role

It says in only today's Manly Daily Peter Peters is a Sea Eagles media and sales consultant?

Strange. If he's been let go, great.

 

[The Wheel]

It says in only today's Manly Daily Peter Peters is a Sea Eagles media and sales consultant?

Strange. If he's been let go, great.

Well I have it on pretty good authority

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

It says in only today's Manly Daily Peter Peters is a Sea Eagles media and sales consultant?

Strange. If he's been let go, great.

Hoo ****ing roo

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

Well I have it on pretty good authority

Explains everything doesn’t it?

 

[Terry Zarsoff]

Ryan Lyall turfed him from his ‘consulting’ role

I’m not sure that Gorman was even in the role at that stage. I’m sure he joined after the Green saga blew up.

 

[HappilyManly]

Well I have it on pretty good authority

ZtC announced his retirement last year but wanted to get his 50 year ring, so effective in 2018

http://www.sportingnews.com/au/leag...ew-ceo-lyall-gorman/lste4c0ywhk91w5ntbro87ahy

 

[globaleagle]

Gorman on the radio saying that they had all their final submission in on July the second.

So any reports that have been made about Manly wanting extra time (last week I think) wasn't correct.

So the decision makers have had all the info for 6 or so weeks.

 

[MadMarcus]

Zorba again writing jiberish... Loved how he equated Bozo to finding a golden nugget in your breakfast cereal. The fat furk can't help himself but to think about food.. the only golden nuggets are up his big ass nose

A club who had Nate Myles playing for them shouldn’t be talking about finding a nugget in your breakfast

 

[Supreme Leader]

Gorman on the radio saying that they had all their final submission in on July the second.

So any reports that have been made about Manly wanting extra time (last week I think) wasn't correct.

So the decision makers have had all the info for 6 or so weeks.

Won't say I told you so?

 

[globaleagle]

You can if ya want..... I just don't remember the context...

 

[Jethro]

Will the NRL publish a report on their website so that we can all see and judge for ourselves the evidence they have convicted and punished Manly on?

This is what a pro sport like the NFL does:
Independent investigator Ted Wells submitted his report to Commissioner Roger Goodell and the New England Patriots on Wednesday in relation to the footballs used in the AFC Championship Game against the Indianapolis Colts. The findings are now available to the public.
INVESTIGATIVE REPORT CONCERNING FOOTBALLS USED DURING THE AFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME ON JANUARY 18, 2015
http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/photo/2015/05/06/0ap3000000491381.pdf

 

[Supreme Leader]

You can if ya want..... I just don't remember the context...

By:Supreme Leader- Jul 26, 2018
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One of my sources (who is a Board member at another club) said to me that the final report has been submitted to the NRL from the committee that sat through the appeal. Evidently it was rather damming about the processes and terminologies of what is and ain't a TPA under law used by the NRL, and that the NRL had to revisit it's rules. His thoughts were that the delay is in the fact that the NRL have to find a positive solution (were they save face) but then introduce the new code for all clubs to follow. They would make that announcement simultaneously.

As with anything with the NRL this could take forever as anything they change will need legal checking so the NRL don't have the same issues. So very unlikely #next week, will become #next few months.

Anyway we are screwed anyway.

 

[Bearfax]

By:Supreme Leader- Jul 26, 2018
Well-Known Member


One of my sources (who is a Board member at another club) said to me that the final report has been submitted to the NRL from the committee that sat through the appeal. Evidently it was rather damming about the processes and terminologies of what is and ain't a TPA under law used by the NRL, and that the NRL had to revisit it's rules. His thoughts were that the delay is in the fact that the NRL have to find a positive solution (were they save face) but then introduce the new code for all clubs to follow. They would make that announcement simultaneously.

As with anything with the NRL this could take forever as anything they change will need legal checking so the NRL don't have the same issues. So very unlikely #next week, will become #next few months.

Anyway we are screwed anyway.

But in the end Supreme Leader do you see Manly being exonerated, given the findings regarding the TPA issue? This year is lost but are the NRL in a position to still be able to penalise Manly, if their standards are so ambiguous. And what does that mean for other clubs that may have been using the TPAs to their benefit using these ambiguous rules and perhaps being found more at fault than Manly? Does the NRL have to accept the investigations rulings?

 

[globaleagle]

But in the end Supreme Leader do you see Manly being exonerated, given the findings regarding the TPA issue? This year is lost but are the NRL in a position to still be able to penalise Manly, if their standards are so ambiguous. And what does that mean for other clubs that may have been using the TPAs to their benefit using these ambiguous rules and perhaps being found more at fault than Manly? Does the NRL have to accept the investigations rulings?

Maybe the nrl have been dragging it on for so long this year so they can say:

Look, findings are in. Manly have effectively been fined in 2018, but due to some technical and perceived ambiguous terms we have decided that the 1 year salary cap fine is substantial enough.

Manly have said they will change their protocols and training do adhere to the rules better and we at the nrl will spend the off-season ensuring that there is total clarification and transparency to every salary cap rule.

 

[Eagles2nv]

Maybe the nrl have been dragging it on for so long this year so they can say:

Look, findings are in. Manly have effectively been fined in 2018, but due to some technical and perceived ambiguous terms we have decided that the 1 year salary cap fine is substantial enough.

Manly have said they will change their protocols and training do adhere to the rules better and we at the nrl will spend the off-season ensuring that there is total clarification and transparency to every salary cap rule.

Yeap, still not fair to pin us if we are in the clear. That 330K this year could be used to forward end contracts to improve next years cap.

I think perhaps the NRL will now wait till after 1 Nov, knowing then, we have no recourse for the 330K 2018 cap reduction (we just have to wear is as a 'mistake'). Also, it helps to avoid any other perceived issues in 2018 caps with other clubs - effectively writing this year off. They then give everyone the off season to comply with new TPA rules. They also dont want to announce any penalties this close to finals.

I imagine new rules could see some teams hit harder, as some of their TPAs may become invalid (not the chooks though, they are covered by the Politis sub clause). They won't want this now as some players would be thinking about if they are going to keep getting paid/mabye they should look elsewhere.

 

[MissKate]

And when will the nrl be checking all the other clubs to stop them from doing exactly what we are getting shafted for????

 

[SeaEagle21]

And when will the nrl be checking all the other clubs to stop them from doing exactly what we are getting shafted for????

When they get a heads up with enough time to get their books in order.

 

[Woodsie]

And when will the nrl be checking all the other clubs to stop them from doing exactly what we are getting shafted for????

That may well be the whole point of the delay ..... GreenTurd giving all the other clubs plenty of time and guidance on what evidence and "offending" words to remove from all records ....

 

[Woodsie]

When they get a heads up with enough time to get their books in order.

Great minds think ....

PSS ,,, or at least those not handicapped by numb-nuuttery ....

 

[Supreme Leader]

But in the end Supreme Leader do you see Manly being exonerated, given the findings regarding the TPA issue? This year is lost but are the NRL in a position to still be able to penalise Manly, if their standards are so ambiguous. And what does that mean for other clubs that may have been using the TPAs to their benefit using these ambiguous rules and perhaps being found more at fault than Manly? Does the NRL have to accept the investigations rulings?

No
Yes
In fairness each club would need to be reviewed, but most likely be told to just fix it and swept under the carpet
No

Sucks doesn't it!