Salary Cap Witch Hunt. **Appeal unsuccessful**

[SeaEagle21]

Great minds think ....

PSS ,,, or at least those not handicapped by numb-nuuttery ....

Lol, if they went after all the clubs then you could imagine the damage that would do to the whole league and Todds tenure would end. Hit Manly with show causes, drag them through the mud so it looks like he accomplished something and send a warning to clubs that from *random date* all clubs must comply with the following rules blah blah blah.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

No
Yes
In fairness each club would need to be reviewed, but most likely be told to just fix it and swept under the carpet
No

Sucks doesn't it!

The NRL under Todd Greenburg that would love nothing else than seeing us fold and go away forever.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

we at the nrl will spend the off-season ensuring that there is total clarification and transparency to every salary cap rule.

For total clarification and full transparency they would have to announce that it's now official (what everyone always thought): "The Roosters Broncos and Storm can do whatever they please. The other clubs can eat cake"

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

For total clarification and full transparency they would have to announce that it's now official (what everyone always thought): "The Roosters Broncos and Storm can do whatever they please. The other clubs can eat cake"

One of my very best mates is a Rorters fan, I actually spoke to him on the phone this morning.

He said “ I’m just plain embarrassed but winning is winning isn’t it”.

 

[Bearfax]

Nope.

They'll say something like "Manly have continued to drag the game into disrepute for the majority of the year with a failed appeal and as a result there will be a substantial increase in fines and cap restrictions".

Then they will go on to say they will be changing their rules to improve transparency and clarification so no other club can be fined...

I think that would result in a civil court case which I suspect the NRL would lose. They will be hoping Manly accepts a middle ground decision including waiving the salary cap and fine penalties for next year, and suggesting both sides are at fault and aiming to solve the TPA issues. They will hope that will sufficiently appease Manly regarding the loss of $330,000 this year. Personally I would go for the jugular if Manly are shown to be blameless

 

[40 years an eagle]

That may well be the whole point of the delay ..... GreenTurd giving all the other clubs plenty of time and guidance on what evidence and "offending" words to remove from all records ....

"remove from all records"

Contracts cannot be altered.

 

[40 years an eagle]

Does the NRL have to accept the investigations rulings?

I am of the understanding that the impartial appeal judiciary's findings are an "assessment" only and the NRL is not bound to follow them.

Greenturd wouldn't have made it impartial if he was bound to their assessment, would he.

 

[Woodsie]

"remove from all records"

Contracts cannot be altered.

Take your point .... but I think the devil is in what was said, promised , stated, inferred by people at the club to get it all to happen .... I doubt there is anything of worry in the contract itself ...

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

I am of the understanding that the impartial appeal judiciary's findings are an "assessment" only and the NRL is not bound to follow them.

Greenturd wouldn't have made it impartial if he was bound to their assessment, would he.

So in essence , 6 months totally wasted?

 

[40 years an eagle]

So in essence , 6 months totally wasted?

Only as far as Manly is concerned, it was gold for Greenturd.

 

[TWO DOGS]

I don't think Greenturd would admit that they got it wrong. If he did it may open the door for Fulton to take legal action against him/NRL.

 

[40 years an eagle]

I doubt there is anything of worry in the contract itself ...

The words: "best endeavours" in contracts.
Isn't that why we are be hassled?

Anything verbal is of no consequence really.

 

[Woodsie]

The words: "best endeavours" in contracts.
Isn't that why we are be hassled?

Anything verbal is of no consequence really.

Still not sure if those words are in a contract or in emails and texts prior to ......

 

[Bearfax]

I am of the understanding that the impartial appeal judiciary's findings are an "assessment" only and the NRL is not bound to follow them.

Greenturd wouldn't have made it impartial if he was bound to their assessment, would he.

But I suspect he is bound by the assessment whether he intended such or not. If the assessment is damning and the NRL are found at fault, this would constitute evidence in any civil court action. To act contrary to an enquiry they themselves set up, and being seen to ignore those findings to the detriment of another party would constitute a breach of fair trading. A civil court would crucify them

 

[Ryan]

I was just exaggerating...

But

Pretty sure the T & C's of the clubs arrangement with the NRL (in relation to the appeals process) details that regardless of the outcome of the appeal, the NRL can choose to dismiss the findings...

Basically the NRL only loses if they choose to lose.

I have no doubt there will be changes coming but Manly will be forced to cop this on the chin and move on... Pretty sure that's what Gorman is saying as well.

My opinion. This years cap penalty will apply. Next years will be suspended, pending an audit of next years cap (including 3rd party deals). Call it a hunch. Both the NRL and club both win.

 

[40 years an eagle]

But I suspect he is bound by the assessment whether he intended such or not. If the assessment is damning and the NRL are found at fault, this would constitute evidence in any civil court action. To act contrary to an enquiry they themselves set up, and being seen to ignore those findings to the detriment of another party would constitute a breach of fair trading. A civil court would crucify them

Yes, in a civil court, but that wasn't the topic, was it?

Apparently the NRL are not bound within their own structure to adhere to the findings of the appeals tribunal. Wasn't that the topic?

 

[40 years an eagle]

Both the NRL and club both win.

No, the NRL still win.
We just lose less than before, that's not a win.

 

[Bearfax]

Yes, in a civil court, but that wasn't the topic, was it?

Apparently the NRL are not bound within their own structure to adhere to the findings of the appeals tribunal. Wasn't that the topic?

If its taken by Manly to a civil court, and they have that right, the NRL are required to show their actions have been equitable and their decisions are legally defensible. Its like in any business. A union for example can take a company to the Industrial Court in challenging rules that are considered unjust. I know this is the case because I have represented a union against a state government department, and won. It can happen.

 

[Woodsie]

More than injuries or anything else ... this salary cap drama has fukkened our 2018, and has and will continue to root our 2019 unless resolved shortly ....

Coming into the end of season player stocktakes ... and it is no wonder Baz is blowing up about not having a senior experienced recruitment manager and a salary cap manager .....

... yet numb-nutts want to criticise him for it ....

 

[mave]

Most people are happy to criticize Barrett for his obvious coaching flaws.

I don't see too many having a crack over his complaints re: promised staffing.