Salary Cap Witch Hunt. **Appeal unsuccessful**

[cherry_poppins]

Why isn't half the fine suspended?

 

[SeaEagle21]

Why isn't half the fine suspended?

Todd would double it mate. In any case 330K of the 660K cap reduction has already been served in 2018. Wouldn't know it though the way the media is still saying we are being smashed with 750K (it's actually 500 with 250 suspended) and 660K for 2018 and 19 (2018 season is pretty much done)

 

[Frogz]

Why isn't half the fine suspended?

Because we are Manly

 

[Tragic Eagle]

I don't accept the finding of the Star Chamber and do not consider Manly tarnished, I don't trust or respect the accusers. Penn had a crack and I respect that. The game has been ruined by the egotistical fools who think they run the game.

 

[globaleagle]

https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/09/27...imposed-on-manly-over-salary-cap-infractions/

On Thursday, Gorman said the club still had two options left open.

"We have 14 days to get back to the NRL with our decision on whether we will appeal the penalty amounts imposed," Gorman told NRL.com.

"So the board members need to discuss that decide the merits or otherwise of that."

A second option would be to commence legal action to debate the technicalities of what constitutes a breach of a Third Party Agreement (TPA) with a player.

But Gorman said it was unlikely the club would go down this path.

"We appealed the NRL's decision on behalf of everyone at the club, those affected by this, and the fans as it was the right thing to do.

"We are still in disagreement over several areas of contention, particularly the area of TPAs being entered to at arm's length from the club.

"We firmly believe we did that but the NRL had another opinion.

 

[BOZO]

Hey @BOZO I love your optimism mate. There are many examples of how clubs can turn their fortunes around. It takes great leadership and resolve. But a lot of the success stories centre around the WHY? Why are the Penns there for? What is their vision and their end goal? If it's to make Manly great again and to restore the club to it's former glory then there is no reason why we can't get there. But if it's purely to build multi level developments then our club will lose its soul and no super coach will be able to turn our fortunes around.

As you agree feathered friend . There are many examples of how clubs can turn their fortunes around and so there is hope for us as well . There are much better investments than investing your hard earned money in a NRL club and I believe any person that takes over a club has a passion for the club . Remember when Quantum pulled out their money and left ? The Penns are still there .
Under Nick Politis the Roosters won a wooden spoon and had their own downward years.
I feel very optimistic that change will come .

 

[Bearfax]

With this announcement , nothing changes my outlook that the guidelines of the Present T P A arrangements are much more erroneous and at fault then any so called technical or really insignificant interpretation type breaches as this instance with Manly and as no doubt would have been a very common practice with all clubs [ and i am sure many clubs who would have had much worse instances then Manly "s and of course which will be never investigated ] . Again providing all club T P A "s are fully and transparently disclosed and as was clearly the case with Manly here . what does it really matter to what degree the club or certain club officials initiate or make initial approaches to prospective or possibly interested third party sponsors and to then allow the manager and his client contracted existing player or more likely in a negotiation stage , a player on the market to then allow to continue and quite possibly then finalize such third party endorsement or sponsorship . In the realistic and practical sense and again providing all of the T P A 's are all officially disclosed and listed to the N R L , again what should it really matter or be such a supposed improper activity . Every sensible conclusion would again surely indicate a very low level discrepancy , again Big Deal whether a club official does or does not make the initial moves to facilitate or help organize a player T P A , again as long as it is fully disclosed , which they all were in this instance with Manly and completely unlike the Eels instance in recent times when there was total intent to deceive the N R L . Again if there was to be a similar analogy to the Slater situation , where there was a high degree of leniency and tolerance applied , Manly would not have been penalized as again just in the minor case of a technical breach , they should not have . Also again in all fairness to give the Penns their due , they could have just rolled over when the N R L first imposed their grubby and agenda motivated ruling , they stumped up some very serious coin [ also admittedly for their own reputational standing ] to challenge it and based on strong [ if it really came to the letter of the law , ] quite valid arguments and to defend the club "s reputation and image . That they were not successful is not an unfavorable or negative indictment or reflection on them or the Manly club but on a more balanced and club land realistic and general T P A practices level , a bad and unflattering reflection on Greenberg and his petty and inept cronies .

Yes Manly Al. I agree with your sentiments. But I would go a step further. At present it is unprofessionally and inequitably structured. As long as you have TPAs you have an inequitable system, because some clubs that are one city affairs or the centre of a major city have a disproportionate advantage over other clubs. Is this really in the best interest of the game? Certainly as a supporter, I would like to know my team has just as much chance of winning a comp as the next team, otherwise what's the purpose in supporting them. If the game is designed to advantage a few sides like Melbourne, Sydney City, Brisbane, even Newcastle, then it is in itself a dishonest system. This is why a carefully thought out draft system ( I know the legal obstacles, but it can be done with the agreement of all parties), without the transfer system being developed in the Aussie Rules comp, is the best way to ensure a much greater equity and less opportunity for some teams to exploit rules that benefit them but not others. The present structure is seriously flawed and needs a complete overhaul.

 

[Frogz]

Who exactly heard our appeal? The NRL? The NRL come up with a penalty, we disagree and appeal to the NRL, who surprise surprise, knock it back. Who actually made the appeal decision and have they come out publicly and explained their decision? If not, why not?

Just like Souffs investigating themselves and finding nothing wrong here!!!!!

 

[NYEagle]

So funny they wait unti grand final week to release this. The ultimate humiliation.

I wonder if there any drive left in the Manly squad to respond to this and bring back the Manly spirit.

NYEagle

 

[Tragic Eagle]

Hopefully Greenturd is out of ammo.

 

[killerspud]

Hopefully Greenturd is out of ammo.

Hopefully he gets pushed out of his position as ceo or better still gets caught out over one of his many corrupt deals.