Salary Cap Witch Hunt. **Appeal unsuccessful**

[silvertail]

I have a question. Manly claim to have made no payments above the cap. The TPAs, if paid, were a seperate contract between the player and the third party.

So I can hold the morale high ground when debating with Manly hating fans, can one of you recall what happened with the other salary cap breaches.

Broncos: I thought they were found to have transferred 500K from the leagues club to players that were not declared to the NRL. Essentially, the Broncos paid the extra money above cap; leagues club, football club, same thing in my opinion.

Melbourne: two sets of books from memory, paid from dodgy cleaning companies. So essentially, paid directly by the Storm?

Parra, Canterbury and NZ - my memory is failing me. Anyone recall?

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

I have a question. Manly claim to have made no payments above the cap. The TPAs, if paid, were a seperate contract between the player and the third party.

So I can hold the morale high ground when debating with Manly hating fans, can one of you recall what happened with the other salary cap breaches.

Broncos: I thought they were found to have transferred 500K from the leagues club to players that were not declared to the NRL. Essentially, the Broncos paid the extra money above cap; leagues club, football club, same thing in my opinion.

Melbourne: two sets of books from memory, paid from dodgy cleaning companies. So essentially, paid directly by the Storm?

Parra, Canterbury and NZ - my memory is failing me. Anyone recall?

Parra involved falsified invoices from suppliers but money paid to players.

Now that IS cheating!!

 

[silvertail]

Thanks Mark. So Parra paid the players amounts directly and above the cap.

 

[HappilyManly]

I have a question. Manly claim to have made no payments above the cap. The TPAs, if paid, were a seperate contract between the player and the third party.

So I can hold the morale high ground when debating with Manly hating fans, can one of you recall what happened with the other salary cap breaches.

Broncos: I thought they were found to have transferred 500K from the leagues club to players that were not declared to the NRL. Essentially, the Broncos paid the extra money above cap; leagues club, football club, same thing in my opinion.

Melbourne: two sets of books from memory, paid from dodgy cleaning companies. So essentially, paid directly by the Storm?

Parra, Canterbury and NZ - my memory is failing me. Anyone recall?

Its all listed here:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Rugby_League_salary_cap

 

[EagleFlys]

Great interview by Inside the NRL with Tooves here: https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/03/26/i-wasnt-interviewed---toovey-on-manly-salary-cap-breaches/

Well worth watching. He wasn't even interviewed by Greenberg. Ridiculous. You would think that Toovey who was there when this all started would be the perfect person for Greenberg to talk to. Just shows what a thorough investigation they actually did!!!

Sorry didn't make it past the Katie Brown blue tank top/dress, and the "in big news today" by blonde braindead.

 

[Spartan Eagle]

I have a question. Manly claim to have made no payments above the cap. The TPAs, if paid, were a seperate contract between the player and the third party.

So I can hold the morale high ground when debating with Manly hating fans, can one of you recall what happened with the other salary cap breaches.

Broncos: I thought they were found to have transferred 500K from the leagues club to players that were not declared to the NRL. Essentially, the Broncos paid the extra money above cap; leagues club, football club, same thing in my opinion.

Melbourne: two sets of books from memory, paid from dodgy cleaning companies. So essentially, paid directly by the Storm?

Parra, Canterbury and NZ - my memory is failing me. Anyone recall?

Basically manly made no direct payments or provided benefits over and above what was declared to the NRL. What is at issue is whether manly were considered to be a party in the negotiations of the alleged TPAs in question. If so it should have been considered part of the cap and therefore a breach as it should have been disclosed. Manly say they weren't involved.. they merely pointed the third party in the direction of the player's agent and said there you go, there may be an opportunity there to do business. It was then up to the players agent and third party to negotiate a deal, whether it eventuated or not.. Penn has stated that this practice is common.

There is a reason why players agents are not accountable to the NRL. If they were it would blow the lid wide open. We would even find out about Greensprog's dealings at the bulldogs.

If Sean Penn / Bozo and the ex ceo's take legal action things are going to get very ugly. There's going to be a lot of shi-t thrown about in every direction and a lot of it is going to stick.

 

[Highflier]

Agree, when listening to GreenTurd I couldn't shake the thought that no solicitor has advised him to say any of this ..... give a fool with a personal agenda enough rope and he will hang himself .....

Yes please

 

[niccipops]

Rock cakes taste better than fish...

And fish cake taste better than rocks.
slightly
😛

 

[Ron E. Gibbs]

If Sean Penn / Bozo and the ex ceo's take legal action things are going to get very ugly. There's going to be a lot of shi-t thrown about in every direction and a lot of it is going to stick.

It's already getting ugly…

 

[Jethro]

Agree, when listening to GreenTurd I couldn't shake the thought that no solicitor has advised him to say any of this ..... give a fool with a personal agenda enough rope and he will hang himself .....

Yes please

 

[Shoe1]

The ace in the pack could be uncle nick going in to bat for mr kelly

 

[EagleFlys]

Is it over yet, I have an assignment to do!!!!!!

 

[Mal Cochrane]

So if we think it is only about tpa’s, why were the nrl apparently telling us to get under the cap so not to lose points? That would say we were also over the cap, and apparently did not replace green so to stay under the cap

 

[lurker]

I have to give Zorba a bit of credit. That Q & A wasn’t bad.

My favorite quote was about Kelly. “He can’t have felt that strongly he stayed 18 months after”.

Hahaha I reckon Kelly and the rorters have leaked a fair bit out here to paint a Picasso about Kelly as an upstanding citizen of morality and integrity that was manipulated by those evil manly people haha

 

[Simonmyers11]

So if we think it is only about tpa’s, why were the nrl apparently telling us to get under the cap so not to lose points? That would say we were also over the cap, and apparently did not replace green so to stay under the cap

Exactly? They are saying only reason why we are under is because green left freeing up 660k. It's the reason why we couldn't sign Pearce as we would of been over the cap?

 

[EagleFlys]

Exactly? They are saying only reason why we are under is because green left freeing up 660k. It's the reason why we couldn't sign Pearce as we would of been over the cap?

If we were paying Green 660K pa - we deserve every bit of ridicule we get.
Insanity.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

Thanks Mark. So Parra paid the players amounts directly and above the cap.

Yes, and how they got around it was dodgy invoices from suppliers ( for anything ) , money paid direct to players instead VERY VERY dodgy!!

 

[Spartan Eagle]

So if we think it is only about tpa’s, why were the nrl apparently telling us to get under the cap so not to lose points? That would say we were also over the cap, and apparently did not replace green so to stay under the cap

I think so.. They were saying hold off on spending any further as you will be over the cap. Thompson was fine but maybe a Pearce signing would have put us over.. I'm sure they were including/counting the alleged TPAs/undeclared benefits etc.. in question as part of the existing cap. That's why we would have been over if we signed Pearce. If you don't include the TPA payments/benefits as part of the cap we would be under.

 

[Simonmyers11]

So is that why we have to take off 600k over 2 years from the cap. They are including those tpa's in the cap now?

 

[Shoe1]

This is just silly