Membership (and passion) a discussion..and memes

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So you are saying that during our golden times our members were at the same level? So it is almost like on field success is not an indication of membership growth?

This is not about converting people into fans it about converting existing fans, the same people who post on here and other forums / pages into fans.

If it is indeed a "manly social" issue it can be addressed via smart marketing and compelling membership. Not for everyone but it can be done with the proper investment....which is where this whole conversation started.

I will stop posting after this one as it is clear this is going nowhere as you can not see the contradictions in what you write.
What I was saying is that you do not seem to understand is I am not being critical of our great club for being the reason for our low membership numbers but our overall passionless fans are
 
Let's get this straight, folks.

Repeat after me, "marketing is not advertising, advertising is a tool used by marketing (one of many) to achieve a goal".
Equating advertising with marketing is like calling a doctor a stethoscope.
Repeat after me our great club is not the reason for our low membership numbers but our overall passionless fans are
 
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If marketing is not that effective then your constant bombardment of memes etc... to get people to be members etc..would therefore be pointless and a waste of your time then according to your own logic?
I disagree however,I think it is effective because your constant bombardment seems to be effectively pissing off a lot of people.
So positive posts about our club pisses you off ?
Where is the Manly logic in that ?
 
If marketing is not that effective then your constant bombardment of memes etc... to get people to be members etc..would therefore be pointless and a waste of your time then according to your own logic?
I disagree however,I think it is effective because your constant bombardment seems to be effectively pissing off a lot of people.
You did not understand what I was saying so i will putt my own words in your thoughts

What I was trying to say for people that criticize our club like @isz for failing to engage with the fans
quote " marketing campaign can convert many more into members" end quote
Our low membership numbers is not a club issue it is Manly Fan passion issue

The logic of Bombarding posts ?
Every one has a Passion on here about bombarding us with posts like you do on the Manly Juniors which I look at in a positive light

I post on my passion and that is for our club to grow and club membership is a great way yo do this
I see how positive posts about our club pisses you off but when some one posts negative posts about our owners you are no where to be seen
That is who you are and we are all different and balance is what makes great forums
 
Repeat after me our great club is not the reason for our low membership numbers but our overall passionless fans are
My opinion is that your statement is too simplistic, and does not really reflect a multifaceted issue.

But what the hell would I know........I've only spent over 2 decades in senior marketing management, including APAC/regional and global roles, including advising the CEO of a 1Bn USD organization. Business growth drivers / inhibitors............never heard of 'em.

Your passion (and ability to generate a huge supply of memes), are quite evident. If all the folk from Palm Beach to the Spit Bridge shared your enthusiasm, MWRLFC would never lack for support.

Please ease up though, on your fellow Manly supporters. We all love the club in our own ways, and this diversity (and don't we all love diversity.............yes........we do) is what makes us great as supporters.
 
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Very mature and Manly Inspiring posts . Keep this standard up and you will promote personal posts directed at our posters instead of the forum topics
You got caught up in my web.

Finally…a humanistic rather than a tediously robotic response.
 
My opinion is that your statement is too simplistic, and does not really reflect a multifaceted issue.

But what the hell would I know........I've only spent over 2 decades in senior marketing management, including APAC/regional and global roles, including advising the CEO of a 1Bn USD organization. Business growth drivers / inhibitors............never heard of 'em.

Your passion (and ability to generate a huge supply of memes), are quite evident. If all the folk from Palm Beach to the Spit Bridge shared your enthusiasm, MWRLFC would never lack for support.

Please ease up though, on your fellow Manly supporters. We all love the club in our own ways, and this diversity (and don't we all love diversity.............yes........we do) is what makes us great as supporters.
Bob as a fellow ex marketer I feel your pain
 
Repeat after me our great club is not the reason for our low membership numbers but our overall passionless fans are
I know you're not here to win friends but coming on a fan forum and posting about how Manly fans are passionless is ridiculous. We are all passionate in our own way or we wouldn't be here and the majority of us are members already. I get you want Manly to be successful in all areas, everyone here wants the same but you're throwing stones in the wrong direction.
 
You keep deleting my posts and I wont be posing on here again
Bozo I removed one post which was trolling. I also removed some posts where there was an offence phrase used against you (I then had to remove the post where you quoted it back)

Happy to reinstate the posts against you if you would like
 
Bozo I removed one post which was trolling. I also removed some posts where there was an offence phrase used against you (I then had to remove the post where you quoted it back)

Happy to reinstate the posts against you if you would like
Sorry I was not aware . thank you for your response . All good 🙂
 
Bob as a fellow ex marketer I feel your pain
I know..........have a drinking game when you see ads for 'digital marketing' which is in reality referring to 'digital advertising' (or really 'Search Engine Optimization' ) and you'll be pissed in no time.

I know that the world doesn't get it, and it may take years.

I wish that the AMI (Australian Marketing Institute (AMI) - the largest network for professional marketers in Australia ) or in the UK, the CIM (Be a Chartered Marketer | CIM ) had more profile and clout, and then the story would get out.
 
I know..........have a drinking game when you see ads for 'digital marketing' which is in reality referring to 'digital advertising' (or really 'Search Engine Optimization' ) and you'll be pissed in no time.

I know that the world doesn't get it, and it may take years.

I wish that the AMI (Australian Marketing Institute (AMI) - the largest network for professional marketers in Australia ) or in the UK, the CIM (Be a Chartered Marketer | CIM ) had more profile and clout, and then the story would get out.
I do love how everyone thinks they can market (also appreciate the marketing people as CEO;s as that is now the path I am on...)
 
You did not understand what I was saying so i will putt my own words in your thoughts

What I was trying to say for people that criticize our club like @isz for failing to engage with the fans
quote " marketing campaign can convert many more into members" end quote
Our low membership numbers is not a club issue it is Manly Fan passion issue

The logic of Bombarding posts ?
Every one has a Passion on here about bombarding us with posts like you do on the Manly Juniors which I look at in a positive light

I post on my passion and that is for our club to grow and club membership is a great way yo do this
I see how positive posts about our club pisses you off but when some one posts negative posts about our owners you are no where to be seen
That is who you are and we are all different and balance is what makes great forums
Lol,sorry if I bombard you about our juniors.(I honestly don't know how to respond to that,particularly if you think it is on the same level as your bombardment).
Please tell me how you see that positive posts pisses me off,it should be interesting to see your logical conclusions.
Why would I defend our owners?If people on here don't like them it is not an issue I know enough about to comment(so therefore I don't comment)
Good luck to you Bozo,I am not sure how to communicate with you as you seem to exist in another reality and only see what you want in a comment and completely miss the point that people make.
 
My opinion is that your statement is too simplistic, and does not really reflect a multifaceted issue.

But what the hell would I know........I've only spent over 2 decades in senior marketing management, including APAC/regional and global roles, including advising the CEO of a 1Bn USD organization. Business growth drivers / inhibitors............never heard of 'em.

Your passion (and ability to generate a huge supply of memes), are quite evident. If all the folk from Palm Beach to the Spit Bridge shared your enthusiasm, MWRLFC would never lack for support.

Please ease up though, on your fellow Manly supporters. We all love the club in our own ways, and this diversity (and don't we all love diversity.............yes........we do) is what makes us great as supporters.
Let me explain my self as you have the wrong impression

I love my fellow Manly supporters and in my posts I praise all the loyal club members for their great effort and contribution in making our club great . Now I cannot be more clear than that for the love of loyal Manly people

I am glad you understand me when I say that passion does make a difference to our membership numbers
and the truth is we do lack the over all passionate club membership support that other clubs have and we cannot sugar coat the truth . Try telling some on her to ease up criticizing our club and owners
 
Lol,sorry if I bombard you about our juniors.(I honestly don't know how to respond to that,particularly if you think it is on the same level as your bombardment).
Please tell me how you see that positive posts pisses me off,it should be interesting to see your logical conclusions.
Why would I defend our owners?If people on here don't like them it is not an issue I know enough about to comment(so therefore I don't comment)
Good luck to you Bozo,I am not sure how to communicate with you as you seem to exist in another reality and only see what you want in a comment and completely miss the point that people make.
Did you read what I wrote ?

Why would you be sorry for bombarding me with your junior posts when i replied that i look at them in a positive light

Why would you defend our owners ? . Simple.... by being loyal to the people that keep our club viable

Yes i do live in another reality of loyalty and passion . You should visit as it is out of this world 🙂
 

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