I think in a couple of games lately Lane has got posted in defence on our line.
No idea if was his fault but his general play has still been good so I'm guessing it's something to do with that.
Manly v Dragons [Round 15, 2018] - Pre-Game Discussion
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No idea if was his fault but his general play has still been good so I'm guessing it's something to do with that.
brad
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Didnt Lane have a Barry Crocker on the weekend ? I didnt watch the game but his Defence was woeful apparently.
I am assuming that was a rhetorical question but just in case ..... No. No he doesn't .... ever.
HappilyManly
Journey Man
Saints rep players will be saving themselves for SOO and Denver Test selection on Sunday
Manly the Dragon Slayers
Tareeeagle
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Tareeeagle
Reserve Grader
It isn't the two wingers on the bench that worries me as much as the one in the starting lineup who seems incapable of catching any kicked ball.
eagerbeaver
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The irony here is even with the dragons on top of the table McGregor has dropped/demoted Nightingale to the bench, yet we near the bottom of the table keep executing the definition of insanity and picking Uate.
Patience mate. #nextweek
HoldenV8
Journey Man
It is a game of cat and mouse by Barrett that Mary won’t see coming when he changes the bench 24hrs before kick off
Yeah because changing the team at the 11th hour really did wonders in our game in Wollongong last year didn't it......St Merge never saw us coming because they didn't have a rear view mirror.
Ralphie
Bencher
This looks a lot like the selections he made in his first game he coached us.
HoldenV8
Journey Man
Manly that night (Rd.1 vs Dogs at Brookvale)
Tom Trbojevic
Jorge Taufua
Jamie Lyon (c)
Steve Matai
Brayden Wiliame
Dylan Walker
Daly Cherry-Evans
Jake Trbojevic
Apisai Koroisau
Nate Myles
Lewis Brown
Nathan Green
Martin Taupau
Bench - Matt Parcell, Blake Leary, Darcy Lussick, Siosaia Vave.
The only changes from the originally named side were: Snake was out injured, Turbo moved to fullback with Wiliame coming in on the wing. Feleti Mateo was dropped off the bench for Vave.
Just think about this for a moment. We released Gutho at the end of 2015, but kept Wiliame.
Lloyd Perrett (wearing #22) was on the bench for the Dogs as a late replacement for Danny Fualalo, while 2011 Sea Eagles premiership winners Will Hopoate (fullback) and Tony Williams (2nd row) were also in the Dogs lineup.
We lost 28-6.
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Thanks for reminding me, but I know, I was there.
And my high hopes for a brave new world under Barrett lasted approximately 10 minutes, from memory!
HoldenV8
Journey Man
I remember sitting in front of my television that night thinking WTF am I watching here?
I knew Snake was still to come back so that was some comfort. Although unfortunately it was the beginning of the end for Brett.
Wiliame......yeah the less said, the better.
It was the start of an almost two year run for Lewis Brown to be selected each week in our top grade side. Ironically, that run ended when he was out injured for last years fiasco in Wollongong.
Nathan Green? I mean really.....Nathan Green? The guy could barely crack a first grade spot at St Merge and suddenly he's a starting back rower, largely because he trained well in the pre-season and impressed the new coach. Barrett the coach soon found out, but seemingly didn't learn from, that going well in the pre-season was not the same as going well in a game. I remember the term "deer in the headlights" being thrown around in these forums that night when describing Green's performance.
And by half time I knew that we needed to swap Killer and Walks because back then, Walks was no 5/8 and we needed Killer's experience in the halves, especially as we had a pair of relatively inexperienced hookers (even though Api had won the GF with Souffs in 2014) and Turbo was a virtual rookie at fullback.
I've been puzzled by a lot of Barrett's team selections ever since.
I knew Snake was still to come back so that was some comfort. Although unfortunately it was the beginning of the end for Brett.
Wiliame......yeah the less said, the better.
It was the start of an almost two year run for Lewis Brown to be selected each week in our top grade side. Ironically, that run ended when he was out injured for last years fiasco in Wollongong.
Nathan Green? I mean really.....Nathan Green? The guy could barely crack a first grade spot at St Merge and suddenly he's a starting back rower, largely because he trained well in the pre-season and impressed the new coach. Barrett the coach soon found out, but seemingly didn't learn from, that going well in the pre-season was not the same as going well in a game. I remember the term "deer in the headlights" being thrown around in these forums that night when describing Green's performance.
And by half time I knew that we needed to swap Killer and Walks because back then, Walks was no 5/8 and we needed Killer's experience in the halves, especially as we had a pair of relatively inexperienced hookers (even though Api had won the GF with Souffs in 2014) and Turbo was a virtual rookie at fullback.
I've been puzzled by a lot of Barrett's team selections ever since.
Myles, Brown and Green in the starting forward pack, yuck. Makes our current pack look like immortals.
The idea of rewarding off season effort is sound in principle, although Green did not measure up, it’s true. Barrett did the same this year with Tanganoa and Lane, with better results.
HoldenV8
Journey Man
You could almost add Croker to that list. All we heard from Barrett in this years pre-season was that Croker was training the house down. Of course, we now know that it was all because he was just trying to talk the kid up as Hastings was no chance to be Cherry's halves partner and they were trying to keep the reasons hush hush.
The Who
Journey Man
What I'd really like to know from Twenty is: Do you rate Tom Wright?
It must be apparent to all that he doesn't.
We've had an under-performing backline for the majority of matches this season yet Tom Wright still can't make the 17.
Even though Wright is signed for 2019 (I believe) I fear he will seek to leave the club, knowing that the coach has no confidence in him.
Twenty had no issue blooding Croker in First Grade, and giving Suli an opportunity - so age can't be the issue.
He tried to manufacture Walker into a 5/8.
He also had no issue recruiting an over-the-hill Hodkinson to further block Wright's progress.
It must be apparent to all that he doesn't.
We've had an under-performing backline for the majority of matches this season yet Tom Wright still can't make the 17.
Even though Wright is signed for 2019 (I believe) I fear he will seek to leave the club, knowing that the coach has no confidence in him.
Twenty had no issue blooding Croker in First Grade, and giving Suli an opportunity - so age can't be the issue.
He tried to manufacture Walker into a 5/8.
He also had no issue recruiting an over-the-hill Hodkinson to further block Wright's progress.
Just my opinion ..... But I am 100% convinced Baz does rate him ..... and I am also 100% convinced that the slowly slowly approach has been designed with T. Wrights knowledge and approval ..... with 3 years of experience of managing the kid physically and mentally as a guide ..... .
MuzztheEagle
Bencher
I can justify the selections of Croker and Suli over TGWH - Croker is a specialized half, while TGWH is much more of a back when you watch him play, Suli had 1st grade experience and had shown what he could do on the field. I can even justify the selection of M.Wright (at fullback) as he (should?) provide more experience in defense. But the selection I can't get passed is Parker; these two played 20s together and although Parker has the size advantage he really hasn't brought much to the team. This is now his 3rd season playing with 1st grade and I don't think we will see TGWH unless we have catastrophic injuries rip further into our backline.
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