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tookey
First Grader
- Back to the future
With Des Hasler set for a triumphant return to Manly, where does that leave Geoff Toovey?
The answer is: Still on the outer...for now.
Hasler will accept John Cartwright as his assistant coach as part of his new deal, but I will be surprised if that stays the case long term.
Hasler and Toovey remain close mates and Dessie would love to get his former teammate back on the coaching staff.
A Hasler-Toovey coaching combo would have Manly fans salivating.
Class of 96
Bencher
On that same website, it had this story. Wouldn’t it be wonderful if the fans took over. $250 a share is not a great deal, but can we amass 250,000 shareholders.
Class of 96
Bencher
Or at a buyout valuation of $10M, that would be 40,000 shares needed. Surely we have the numbers with some larger benefactors, say Hugh Jackman.
Terry Zarsoff
First Grader
Unfortunately Hugh doesn’t appear to be ‘Russell’ on that score.
Briza
Maroon and White - Born and Bred
It's actually 250,000 shares, just means people own multiple shares.
I’m in
So... interesting that 2V and Dazzler are still good friends and no reason why not.
Suggestions Des is returning to The Sea Eagles and plenty of articles about what Toovey offers in terms of culture. Could this be a PR stint by someone (unknown) who is pushing for both to be back together again?
Would Toove’s be willing to work under Des again? Did he bait his hook while fishing?
Interesting week ahead but I think we’ll be happier than last year and there will be a huge changing of the guard.
Suggestions Des is returning to The Sea Eagles and plenty of articles about what Toovey offers in terms of culture. Could this be a PR stint by someone (unknown) who is pushing for both to be back together again?
Would Toove’s be willing to work under Des again? Did he bait his hook while fishing?
Interesting week ahead but I think we’ll be happier than last year and there will be a huge changing of the guard.
OneEyedEagle
Bencher
Briza
Maroon and White - Born and Bred
Tooves is old school, very laid back beaches boy.
I think he'd work with anyone if it ment he could help mwse, even if he didn't see eye to eye with them.
KNUCKLES
weights before dates
Your dreaming cost me 60 from mount druitt to Penrith a month back. 300 from the city to mount druitt 5 years back. It was nye though
No room for 2V at present ( if they keep Cartwrong).
I can see them doing that to save money, and that would have been part of the agreement with Hasler and probably why they couldn’t come to agreement with Maguire.
They can afford to payout Twenty & Ferris but maybe not all three.
I can see them doing that to save money, and that would have been part of the agreement with Hasler and probably why they couldn’t come to agreement with Maguire.
They can afford to payout Twenty & Ferris but maybe not all three.
One can only hope. Hasler, 2V, Singe, Balin and others. This site would go off!
Shoe1
Journey Man
It’s full on. The rumours were quite strong about the disappearance. I can remember other teachers and students talking about it in 1986.
HappilyManly
Journey Man
Didn't Ferris quit last week?
Hopefully Baz gets a gig somewhere from all the ones previously singing his praises
ManlyTragic
Bencher
I hope Cartwright doesn’t have a 12 clause!
Manly forgive old wounds to reunite with former coach Des Hasler
Paul Kent, The Daily Telegraph
27 minutes ago
Subscriber only
THAT Des Hasler is just days away from being announced as Manly coach, on a three-year deal, shows where both the coach and the club are.
Twelve months ago it was impossible. Three months ago unthinkable.
Now, not only is it plausible, but such is their drop in stock it almost seems necessary.
Their marriage of inconvenience is expected to be announced by the end of the week with the popular tip is that if they cannot get the deal done by then, then it won’t be done.
Each needs the other.
Des Hasler’s looming return has surprised everyone. (Gregg Porteous)
MORE NEWS
CHILDHOOD WOES: Why Thurston nearly gave it all away
Hasler is considering a deal worth $700,000, or almost half what he was paid at Canterbury.
Manly are bringing back the coach they blame for sending the club spiralling down the ladder and who, at one point now apparently in the past, they swore never to forgive.
The Sea Eagles, asleep at the wheel, blame Hasler for some of the contracts that were signed at Manly once he knew he was leaving the Sea Eagles to join Canterbury, which ultimately cost them quality players.
It blew up spectacularly on replacement coach Geoff Toovey, forced to plug the dam wall until he finally ran out of fingers in his fourth and last season.
The Dogs couldn’t wat for Hasler’s strategy to pay off. (Stephen Cooper)
Hasler’s return to Manly underlines once again that the one great forgivable in rugby league is winning.
Manly need to win, not just for the future of their football team but also possibly for the future of the club.
Crowd figures are down, sponsors are walking away and the club is limping into a future in which it might struggle to maintain pace.
Hasler needs it because he has burned inside since being sacked from Canterbury and blamed relentlessly and exclusively for the Bulldogs’ salary cap problems.
He was a convenient scapegoat, silent and visible, for others who were also culpable.
So he comes back with a few scores to settle and each gets what the other provides.
Manly at least know they’re getting finals talent. (Mark Evans)
Manly have the best coach for the money they are prepared to spend.
Hasler, an opportunity to redeem his reputation, and so is willing to accept the club’s skinny budget to show he can still coach.
The soap opera of rugby league is Australian sport’s greatest gift. There is never a moment when it is boring.
In the end, Hasler was an ill-fit at Canterbury.
Much of Hasler’s success over the years came through his clever manipulation of the salary cap, most famously with his back-ended deals.
There were few cattle traders in the game like him.
It delivered success at Manly, a club with limited third parties to help retain or attract marquee players.
Back-ended deals are a dance with the devil. Their problem is the roster has to be in constant motion, heading off the problem before it arrives.
Wigan crowned Super League champions
Hasler backed his ability to cattle trade his players out of the club before the final and most expensive season bit too hard and he did it wonderfully for years at Manly.
The Bulldogs failed to trust Hasler to see out his plan, though, confused by the team’s inability to score with the roster available, and Hasler was let go at the worst possible time for him and the club.
The Dogs sacked him just when they needed him.
Hasler’s reputation was damaged, some say permanently, and the Dogs were incapable of offloading the players Hasler had earmarked and instead were forced to get rid of prized assets Moses Mbye and Aaron Woods.
The back-ended deals, though, were why it is so hard to imagine Hasler returning to Manly, which he surely will.
Something has to change for Manly. (AAP Image/Dave Hunt)
On Monday morning Hasler met his agent George Mimis at The Avenue on George Cafe in the city while media waited outside Mimis’s office in east Sydney. Spread out on the table in front of him were Mimis’s notes on the Manly offer.
Hasler flew in from holidays just the night before and this was his first look at the Sea Eagles’ proposal.
Most of the formalities in the standard contract negotiations were irrelevant. There is no need to check out facilities, go through the roster, discover preferences.
Hasler knows Manly and Manly know Hasler.
The deal marked the end of many troubling months for Hasler, where at different points it looked like he might never again get a head coaching job in the NRL.
Now, the offer on the table, quite literally, there was a sense he was back.
And then when it was announced the coffee was on the house, well …
Paul Kent, The Daily Telegraph
27 minutes ago
Subscriber only
THAT Des Hasler is just days away from being announced as Manly coach, on a three-year deal, shows where both the coach and the club are.
Twelve months ago it was impossible. Three months ago unthinkable.
Now, not only is it plausible, but such is their drop in stock it almost seems necessary.
Their marriage of inconvenience is expected to be announced by the end of the week with the popular tip is that if they cannot get the deal done by then, then it won’t be done.
Each needs the other.
Des Hasler’s looming return has surprised everyone. (Gregg Porteous)
MORE NEWS
CHILDHOOD WOES: Why Thurston nearly gave it all away
Hasler is considering a deal worth $700,000, or almost half what he was paid at Canterbury.
Manly are bringing back the coach they blame for sending the club spiralling down the ladder and who, at one point now apparently in the past, they swore never to forgive.
The Sea Eagles, asleep at the wheel, blame Hasler for some of the contracts that were signed at Manly once he knew he was leaving the Sea Eagles to join Canterbury, which ultimately cost them quality players.
It blew up spectacularly on replacement coach Geoff Toovey, forced to plug the dam wall until he finally ran out of fingers in his fourth and last season.
The Dogs couldn’t wat for Hasler’s strategy to pay off. (Stephen Cooper)
Hasler’s return to Manly underlines once again that the one great forgivable in rugby league is winning.
Manly need to win, not just for the future of their football team but also possibly for the future of the club.
Crowd figures are down, sponsors are walking away and the club is limping into a future in which it might struggle to maintain pace.
Hasler needs it because he has burned inside since being sacked from Canterbury and blamed relentlessly and exclusively for the Bulldogs’ salary cap problems.
He was a convenient scapegoat, silent and visible, for others who were also culpable.
So he comes back with a few scores to settle and each gets what the other provides.
Manly at least know they’re getting finals talent. (Mark Evans)
Manly have the best coach for the money they are prepared to spend.
Hasler, an opportunity to redeem his reputation, and so is willing to accept the club’s skinny budget to show he can still coach.
The soap opera of rugby league is Australian sport’s greatest gift. There is never a moment when it is boring.
In the end, Hasler was an ill-fit at Canterbury.
Much of Hasler’s success over the years came through his clever manipulation of the salary cap, most famously with his back-ended deals.
There were few cattle traders in the game like him.
It delivered success at Manly, a club with limited third parties to help retain or attract marquee players.
Back-ended deals are a dance with the devil. Their problem is the roster has to be in constant motion, heading off the problem before it arrives.
Wigan crowned Super League champions
Hasler backed his ability to cattle trade his players out of the club before the final and most expensive season bit too hard and he did it wonderfully for years at Manly.
The Bulldogs failed to trust Hasler to see out his plan, though, confused by the team’s inability to score with the roster available, and Hasler was let go at the worst possible time for him and the club.
The Dogs sacked him just when they needed him.
Hasler’s reputation was damaged, some say permanently, and the Dogs were incapable of offloading the players Hasler had earmarked and instead were forced to get rid of prized assets Moses Mbye and Aaron Woods.
The back-ended deals, though, were why it is so hard to imagine Hasler returning to Manly, which he surely will.
Something has to change for Manly. (AAP Image/Dave Hunt)
On Monday morning Hasler met his agent George Mimis at The Avenue on George Cafe in the city while media waited outside Mimis’s office in east Sydney. Spread out on the table in front of him were Mimis’s notes on the Manly offer.
Hasler flew in from holidays just the night before and this was his first look at the Sea Eagles’ proposal.
Most of the formalities in the standard contract negotiations were irrelevant. There is no need to check out facilities, go through the roster, discover preferences.
Hasler knows Manly and Manly know Hasler.
The deal marked the end of many troubling months for Hasler, where at different points it looked like he might never again get a head coaching job in the NRL.
Now, the offer on the table, quite literally, there was a sense he was back.
And then when it was announced the coffee was on the house, well …
stoodamire
Bencher
I’m worried for koroisau and taupau’s natural game or position in the team.
Towards the end of Hasler’a reign at the bulldogs, the team never offloaded and Licha wasn’t allowed to use his running game.
Towards the end of Hasler’a reign at the bulldogs, the team never offloaded and Licha wasn’t allowed to use his running game.
ManlyTragic
Bencher
When a team comes 2nd last there needs to be changes... there will be some winners and some losers
| Team | P | W | L | PD | Pts |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
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7 | 6 | 1 | 99 | 14 |
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7 | 6 | 1 | 54 | 14 |
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7 | 5 | 2 | 36 | 12 |
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8 | 5 | 2 | 39 | 11 |
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8 | 5 | 3 | 64 | 10 |
|
7 | 4 | 3 | 49 | 10 |
|
8 | 4 | 4 | 73 | 8 |
|
7 | 3 | 4 | 17 | 8 |
|
8 | 4 | 4 | -14 | 8 |
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8 | 4 | 4 | -16 | 8 |
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8 | 4 | 4 | -60 | 8 |
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8 | 3 | 4 | 17 | 7 |
|
8 | 3 | 5 | -25 | 6 |
|
7 | 2 | 5 | -55 | 6 |
|
8 | 3 | 5 | -55 | 6 |
|
7 | 1 | 6 | -87 | 4 |
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7 | 1 | 6 | -136 | 4 |
