Factions

[davohan123]

Gen Y faction for me

 

[47MVEagle]

Generation X (no, not the band)

 

[Budgie]

I'm in the ****ing over it faction.

 

[eagleron]

I'm in the ****ing over it faction.

I'm thinking of joining you, lol

 

[simon_eagle]

Rowdy still regrets taking up that offer. Like Fatty at the time, he never wanted to leave Manly.

Wow, I never knew that. Rowdy became a bit of a journeyman after leaving us.. so it makes sense I guess.

 

[Terry Zarsoff]

From the SMH:

I’m still wanted as captain: Cherry-Evans insists there is no Manly player revolt

By Michael Chammas​

September 5, 2022 — 7.00pm

Manly skipper Daly Cherry-Evans insists he still has the support of his teammates amid speculation over a move to oust him as captain of the Sea Eagles.

The Queensland Origin skipper has told the Herald that he has personally reached out to several of his teammates, including brothers Tom and Jake Trbojevic, to gauge his standing among the group.

Manly superstar Tom Trbojevic has spoken about rumours coach Des Hasler may leave the club.​

Tom Trbojevic joined Cherry-Evans for an interview at the club’s Narrabeen training base on Monday afternoon as a show of support for the embattled halfback, who admitted he would have no hesitation stepping away from the leadership role if it was deemed he was no longer the right man for the job.

“This situation is obviously something I wanted to address to make sure there were no ill feelings or a player push for that to change,” Cherry-Evans said of the captaincy at Manly.

“As far as I am aware, there is no push for that to change. And you know what, if the club decides that’s what is best for this team, I will never stand in the way of this club moving forward. But for right now, as far as I’m aware, that hasn’t been brought to my attention.

“I reckon I learnt a lot from those years gone by when there was player unrest here at the club. I always try and do my best to keep the group united. I actually pride myself in creating an environment where everyone can come and be themselves but also uphold a good standard of football.”

Tom Trbojevic joined Daly Cherry-Evans for an interview in Narrabeen on Monday as a show of support for the embattled halfback.CREDIT:SYDNEY MORNING HERALD

“We haven’t done that part well the last six weeks but I think you’ll find for the most part people do enjoy coming to training at this club and it is a good place to be.”

The Sea Eagles are once again on the brink of a civil war with factions at loggerheads over the club’s direction. At the heart of the issue is the debate over whether Des Hasler has earned the right to continue as head coach.

Hasler still has one more year to run on his deal with the Sea Eagles, but the club will hold a series of meetings over the coming days to determine whether that remains the best course of action for the club.

It has been reported that recruitment manager Scott Fulton, the son of the legendary late Manly figure Bob Fulton, doesn’t see eye to eye with Hasler.

Trbojevic on Sunday told the Herald that he believed Hasler was the man to lead the club out of its predicament, with Cherry-Evans echoing that sentiment on Monday.

“I’ve been made aware through the media that there is a push for certain things to be changed at our club,” Cherry-Evans said.

“I’m almost certain through the conversations that I’ve had that the playing group likes Des and want him to be our coach. It’s hard to determine where all this noise is coming from but from the chats I’ve had, Des is our guy.
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/ma...s-feud-with-cherry-evans-20220904-p5bfa0.html

“I’d be surprised if the club thought that he wasn’t the best man for the job. I reckon history suggests that Des is a great coach. We love our coach and we know that we have the playing group to get out of it next year.

“I’ve been here for a long time. We just seem to be a club that brings unnecessary attention to ourselves. The senior players taught me when I was young coming through, now it’s my turn to teach the boys that we can’t get caught up in that side of the club. It’s just not for us to worry about, especially with the way we’ve played this year. Our priority needs to be fixing the football.”

Cherry-Evans wasn’t avoiding the elephant in the room - an overwhelming dissatisfaction with the team’s capitulation over the final seven weeks of the season following the Pride jersey fiasco.

While he admitted that there were players unhappy within the squad, the captain is adamant it is in relation to the team under-achieving and not a split within the group.

“Once it was official with three or four weeks to go that we weren’t making finals, you could tell there was a real sense of disappointment,” Cherry-Evans said.

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“Six weeks ago we weren’t just pushing for a spot in the eight, we were pushing for top four. When you think about how quickly that changed, you could understand how it made people feel. Everyone was flat by the end of it.​

“The level of disappointment probably overwhelmed the squad. Naturally there’s a lot of players unhappy with the way things finished, but there’s no ill-will towards anyone as a person. It’s just the disappointment of where the season ended.”

Trbojevic said that he and brother Jake cleared the air with Cherry-Evans during the team’s end-of-season get-together over the weekend.

“I feel for him that he’s had to hear all of this stuff. If it was the other way around it wouldn’t be ideal,” Trbojevic said.

“We just wanted to reassure him there’s no personal issue here. We all want to play better footy. Where we finished up is far from ideal but there’s definitely no personal issue. We need to get better as a footy team and we’ll work out how we can contribute to that more because we don’t want to be in a similar situation next year.”

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

It’s ducks and drakes at present , the media on one side , Faction A in the middle and Faction B on the other side.

Really I’m thinking it’s better if we all shut up for a bit , stuck our heads in the sand , and hope it all goes away.

 

[Shoe1]

I'm thinking of joining you, lol

I’m in another faction with similar aims, the whatever faction. Non aligned with you and @Budgie because of factionalism

 

[Eagles4Life]

It’s ducks and drakes at present , the media on one side , Faction A in the middle and Faction B on the other side.

Really I’m thinking it’s better if we all shut up for a bit , stuck our heads in the sand , and hope it all goes away.

 

[Eagles4Life]

I'm in the ****ing over it faction.

I hear you @Budgie I am probably closer to the I'm done faction, but if I start feeling more optimistic about 2023; I might ask for an invite to the ****ing over it faction. Do I have to declare previous faction affiliation when filling in an expression of interest to join?

 

[Terry Zarsoff]

Penn
Peters
The Fulton faemmle (look up Carl Laemmle)

Wildcard: Tartak

Remove Penn and Peters becomes increasingly redundant (the latter will not be around forever).*

But in reality, we’re still stuck with Mr Fluffy. He looks like he’s in for the long haul, giving us all more dilettantish amateurism and neglect to look forward to. Cannot wait.

Stop signing/re-signing ‘Tartakians’ - then ‘the Tartar’ goes away as an issue. Although he is more of a sidebar in this latest M-W meltdown.

That leaves the Fulton kids. They sound like an entitled bunch who seem to be not at all embarrassed about the fact that they owe their livelihoods to dad - not because of any obvious talents of their own. Dad in turn presumably thought the club owed his kids a living. It sounds like something straight out of a cautionary tale about nepotism.


*In terms of long term damage caused, this leach has to be Arthurson’s worst ever signing. There are people at Parramatta who still hate him for his one year involvement at that club. His record of off-field interference or disruption at Brookvale stretches back to the 1970s.

 

[EOL now nesting on the GC]

The Factions Fact

Every Family has Factions

Every Team has Factions

Every Organisation has Factions

Every Forum has Factions

And the Mother of all Evil is the Media

Tin hat time bozo.

You do realise there is absolutely no difference between some media and everyone on here.

We all make **** up to support our required narrative.

Only difference is those that work in the media get paid to do it.

 

[BOZO]

Tin hat time bozo.

You do realise there is absolutely no difference between some media and everyone on here.

We all make **** up to support our required narrative.

Only difference is those that work in the media get paid to do it.

I do realise that there are factions with every group of people

Because all people have different ideologies including the media

But the media do no **** in their back yard . They smear their sht at every one else

 

[BOZO]

Only issue with that logic is that the rest of the teams have improved and we are still running the joint like it was 2008. We are so far behind.

We have donkeys leading our club.

You are right there feathered friend .

all the clubs marketing and clubs talk amounts to zero improvement on the field

because the reality is unless a club improves its playing roster they wont be playing any better .

The incomparable Immortal God bless his Manly Soul once Prophesied that if you dont have the Premier cattle on the field You wont win the Premiership

 

[Nordburg]

 

[The Who]

Terribly sad to hear how much this debacle is affecting Ken Arthurson, who is still grieving the loss of his wife.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

Terribly sad to hear how much this debacle is affecting Ken Arthurson, who is still grieving the loss of his wife.

Poor Arko , he must lay awake each night pining for the good times to still be here.

 

[Terry Zarsoff]

What a load of self serving twaddle. I stopped listening at the 2m34s mark.

 

[47MVEagle]

Can't help but feel everything Zorba says is out of self-interest & keeping his family (Penns) & the Fultons happy.

 

[47MVEagle]

What a load of self serving twaddle. I stopped listening at the 2m34s mark.

You beat me to it.