Coronavirus sucks.. but the NRL lives!

[Tomay]

I don’t know if this is the right thread but one thing I noticed last night was that the refs seemed to be in control more. I reckon the lack of crowd pressure will help their decision making.

 

[47MVEagle]

BUT it’s for the “‘newly wed or nearly dead “ as a destination.

Haha, I worked at Sydney airport for a couple of years in the mid-90s & the Wednesday night flight from Norfolk Island was described as exactly that!

 

[40 years an eagle]

Wonder how much the Warriors players decison might have been based on " no play - no pay " ????

Same as every other player I would guess...except scam, who wanted it put off.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Same as every other player I would guess...except scam, who wanted it put off.

(who happens to be the smartest player in the game!) 😱

 

[Brissie Kid]

This is said to be the study which (belatedly) has changed the attitude of US President Trump, who was initially skeptical that coronavirus posed a serious health danger. It's dated 16 March.

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf

Very helpful. The only thing I've seen that actually quantifies the threshold point. If the govt is using suppression instead of mitigation, the point to watch for is 'suppression policies are best triggered early in the epidemic, with a cumulative total of 200 ICU cases per week being the latest point at which policies can be triggered and still keep peak ICU demand' under control. Go past that point and its too late.

 

[40 years an eagle]

(who happens to be the smartest player in the game!) 😱

Who happens to have more money than any other player in the game.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Who happens to have more money than any other player in the game.

Yes fair point too!

 

[Waz13]

Totally different era. The depression was in the middle of two world wars. Hardship was a daily thing for many.Resilience was a given.Now they are in tears if their playstation breaks.

50 to 70 people a week suicide in Australia( depending on where you get your data) so say around 8 to 10 per day over the last decade,and the post GFC years have been very prosperous in share markets and property. Times have been good, interest rates and unemployment low.
If this destroys as many people financially as it looks like doing then this virus had better get a real move on to even come close.Those suicide figures will double or triple.

The mental health and social issues that will come from this will vastly outweigh loss of life in this country. What about flattening that curve.Never gets a mention but mark my words this is the real danger of this panic.

And can we please stop with this UnAustralian rubbish, as if we are some special breed.Crisis shows the real underbelly of a society and the disgraceful activity we are seeing now shows just how different we are from our previous generations who fought world wars with courage.

Although I don’t agree with all your posts on this matter Suze, I agree re the social impact. I work in frontline child protection work and am deeply concerned how this will impact the families I work with. Not only families caring for children but also the children and young people in the out of home care system.

 

[Waz13]

(who happens to be the smartest player in the game!) 😱

And richest

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

I wonder , considering that the NRL / AFL are the only two live sports happening almost world wide are they getting any extra international coverage ??

 

[manlyfan76]

Best thing would be if NRL go broke, get bought by youtube, espn or amazon.
Sort out the teams per city ( bye bye roosters tigers and sharks)
And have someone run it professionally.

 

[Waz13]

Best thing would be if NRL go broke, get bought by youtube, espn or amazon.
Sort out the teams per city ( bye bye roosters tigers and sharks)
And have someone run it professionally.

Well I’m sure you will enjoy watching the northern Sydney crows running around passionately supporting them week in and week out at Bankwest.
Sorry I really don’t know what to make of this post.

 

[ALinda]

Figured this thread is as good as any to say how good is it that the Warriors have declared they will stay in Australia for the time being, which will keep the NRL going. I take my Manly hat off to them for making such a sacrifice and be away from their families for possibly quite some time.

Following their announcement today, I have seen several posts on social media (and even Gus himself on 9) say they have now paid for Warriors memberships as a way of repaying them for saving the competition. I checked the website and their memberships are as low as $20 for the year! (Manly could take a leaf out of their book, especially in these tough times.)

So I say thank you Warriors and good on you!

 

[wombatgc]

Figured this thread is as good as any to say how good is it that the Warriors have declared they will stay in Australia for the time being, which will keep the NRL going. I take my Manly hat off to them for making such a sacrifice and be away from their families for possibly quite some time.

Following their announcement today, I have seen several posts on social media (and even Gus himself on 9) say they have now paid for Warriors memberships as a way of repaying them for saving the competition. I checked the website and their memberships are as low as $20 for the year! (Manly could take a leaf out of their book, especially in these tough times.)

So I say thank you Warriors and good on you!

Mrs Blair will be none to happy.
The weather has been sensational on the GC the last week,
‘No wonder they don’t want to go home.

 

[susan]

Yes fair point too!

Football smarts don’t equal smarts in general SE8. Met him a couple of times. He’s no genius believe me.

 

[susan]

Although I don’t agree with all your posts on this matter Suze, I agree re the social impact. I work in frontline child protection work and am deeply concerned how this will impact the families I work with. Not only families caring for children but also the children and young people in the out of home care system.

That’s my point exactly Waz
I’m not downplaying the threat entirely , I’m criticising the approach.

Maybe while people keep updating the number of cases and wait for the death toll to rise above 6 and just generically assume we are exactly the same as Italy while the figures in Southern Asia clearly show we are not I’ll provide similar updates on bankruptcies, suicides, medical health diagnoses, domestic violence ( of which no doubt you will start to see in your line of difficult work) and substance abuse.

Sooner or later, as uncomfortable as it is , this country and many others will have to start a conversation about the trade off between the health concerns of the minority and the destruction of the fabric of a society as a whole due to normal human behaviour being almost totally curtailed by quarantining an entire population as opposed to protecting the vulnerable.

It’s happening behind closed doors right now but believe me the long term social destruction underway will make that conversation inevitable as the dole lines lengthen.

To put it very bluntly. How many lives are required to be saved to justify the social destruction of the majority.

Regardless of what side of the fence we are on that conversation is coming very soon in the absence of a treatment or vaccine.

PS As I type the Dow Jones futures indices are down another 1400 points to complete the fastest 35 percent fall in history while JP Morgan is putting 2nd quarter US GDP at -14% and unemployment claims rising from 2 hundred thousand to 2 million in two weeks in the US- stats that align with the Great Depression.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

That’s my point exactly Waz
I’m not downplaying the threat entirely , I’m criticising the approach.

Maybe while people keep updating the number of cases and wait for the death toll to rise above 6 and just generically assume we are exactly the same as Italy while the figures in Southern Asia clearly show we are not I’ll provide similar updates on bankruptcies, suicides, medical health diagnoses, domestic violence ( of which no doubt you will start to see in your line of difficult work) and substance abuse.

Sooner or later, as uncomfortable as it is , this country and many others will have to start a conversation about the trade off between the health concerns of the minority and the destruction of the fabric of a society as a whole due to normal human behaviour being almost totally curtailed by quarantining an entire population as opposed to protecting the vulnerable.

It’s happening behind closed doors right now but believe me the long term social destruction underway will make that conversation inevitable as the dole lines lengthen.

To put it very bluntly. How many lives are required to be saved to justify the social destruction of the majority.

Regardless of what side of the fence we are on that conversation is coming very soon in the absence of a treatment or vaccine.

PS As I type the Dow Jones futures are down another 1400 points to complete the fastest 35 percent fall in history with JP Morgan is putting 2nd quarter GDP at -14% and unemployment claims rising from 2 hundred thousand to 2 million in two weeks in the US- stats that align with the Great Depression.

What approach exactly are you proposing?

 

[Heckenberg]

Interesting that my mate saw DCE down at Freshy chicken shop today, doesn't seem like players are in lockdown...

My friends were out with a highly regarded bulldogs prop at a big boat party last weekend. They definitely aren’t being “locked down” any more than your regular citizen.

 

[susan]

What approach exactly are you proposing?

Pretty simple

Protect the vulnerable, get the majority back to normal work just as in all past epidemics that have been controlled without the destruction of society as we are seeing now, HINI in 2009 being the clearest example of a highly contagious disease that infected 60 million Americans and killed 25000 mainly younger citizens( and a half million worldwide).Interestingly the elderly were largely fine due to previous H1N1 immunity which does not happen with mass quarantine.

The obvious issue is the health system coping. A friend of mine ,a Brisbane doctor who runs a large Brisbane hospital says the virus could be coped with if only serious cases reported but the real issue is the modern generation who report to emergency rooms and doctors for a sniffle even in good times. We have produced a generation of entitlement and expectation and this is just another example.He is quite comfortable if only the pretty sick turned up. He says the strain will be caused by those who could simply treat it themselves but won’t and compromise people with harsher symptoms and other diseases.So once again we compromise for the fools.Throw in social media and it’s worse.

In any case even if we have to pour huge money into an massively overworked health system it will be better than what’s coming. Are people that blinded that they can’t see what’s happening. These economic indicators are so destructive yet all we hear is flattening the curve. It’s mind blowing. Do people realize what 20 per cent unemployment and -15 percent GDP looks like.It’s never happened In our lives so they probably dont.And the death toll stands at less than ten, same as a week ago. A death toll of a thousand and it’s still madness as 900 died from flu last year.
Anyway maybe as people see their retirement savings being flushed away ( another ten percent Monday) and they get sacked they might start to realize.. I hope so.

 

[globaleagle]

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