Coronavirus sucks.. but the NRL lives!

[susan]

You may be right but I'm not sure how to protect the weak without slowing the spread as much as possible. If we avoid the sharp 'curve' then that's the best chance for our health services to be able to help those who need most help. China (maybe) is showing signs of coming out the other side? But certainly I share your fears about global depression and social upheaval.

On a side note, I'll be interested to see how far the NRL keeps going, I didn't think they'd make it this far. In terms of TV viewing, the Dogs and Cows game was no more nor less boring than it would have been with people there!

Another interesting point the Qld Uni guy mentioned is an Australian guy working at a Singapore University research centre has isolated the virus for the first time and concluded the strain in Singapore is a mutated weaker version and suggests that may be the case in Southern Asia which may explain the lack of serious issues in Vietnam etc
That may well explain our lack of deaths at this stage
I hope so

 

[globaleagle]

The public panic buying to me indicates a real fear among sections of the community, and that fear in all likelihood is due to ignorance of the facts, and/or mistrust in the information that has been circulating?

You could be right, I put it down to people being selfish assholes. But I probably have less faith in humanity than you, l..o..l

I know, I know... the response is they could be perceived as selfish due to the ignorance of facts and mistrust in yadda yadda ge-adda

 

[globaleagle]

I live 2hrs from Melbourne (about an hour from the outskirts). Town of 5,000 but we have 3 supermarkets. And yes we have had buses of people turn up to supermarkets. Aldi told them to piss off, but all our supermarkets are wiped out.
Even the deli and Woolies was emptied on Sunday arvo. No pasta, oats, tomato sauce, anything sanitary related (nappies, wipes, hand soap and sanitiser). I expect that there will be violence if it happens again.

That creepy pollie...Dutton I think, said those buses could be part of organised crime syndicates and that he's gunna come down on them like a ton'o bricks.

I couldn't really hear him over the noise of some ineffective sabre rattling but I think that was the gist of it.



Also... I say we follow the actions of these 14 Elephants. They got it right!

Fourteen elephants get drunk on corn wine and pass out in tea plantation

Fourteen elephants in China have flagrantly flouted calls to self-isolate by wandering into a village, getting drunk on 30 litres of corn wine and passing out in a tea plantation.

www.thedrinksbusiness.com

 

[The Wheel]

The NRL is set to be engulfed in chaos, with the Warriors set to decide their immediate future in the competition in a crisis meeting when New Zealand players will decide how to respond to the new travel bans.

Michael Carayannis, The Daily Telegraph
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The NRL season is set to descend into further chaos with the Warriors players holding a crisis meeting on Friday morning with their future in the competition in grave doubt.

Warriors boss Cameron George said the side were giving serious consideration to leaving Australia after their match against the Raiders on the Gold Coast on Saturday.

The Warriors had all but committed to remaining in Australia but the change in border policy from the respective New Zealand and Australian governments has now thrown that into question.

Warriors CEO Cameron George speaks to the media at Mount Smart Stadium. Photo: Dave Rowland/Getty Images
Warriors CEO Cameron George speaks to the media at Mount Smart Stadium. Photo: Dave Rowland/Getty Images


George said he holds real fears the players will decide to return home this weekend.

“We’re certainly going to regroup in the morning and make our final decision and make it known to the NRL,” George said.

“If we were talking at midday (on Thursday) I would’ve said we were all systems go. But that’s changed. The situation has changed.

“I’ve just said ‘Look, let’s just get through (Thursday night), get up tomorrow (Friday) and let’s have a clear head and make a real good decision for everyone.

“But I’ll never take away what we are which is human beings and we’re family men and they’re important for us and the club and we’ve got to try and balance that out with our other obligations as well.”

The Warriors had intended to fly players’ family from New Zealand and be with the team as their stay in Australia is open-ended.

But a travel ban on all non-Australians entering the country has know caused havoc.

“In the space of two hours it’s been thrown into turmoil,” George told ABC Grandstand.

“We have a lot of Kiwis, naturally, Tongans, Samoans, playing in our group amongst Australians.

“We’ve got four different nationalities trying to work out whether we can go to one country or another country and it’s presented a huge amount of challenges tonight and we’re just still working through those and hopefully with a bit of assistance from the NRL we can get some clarity on a few things.

“The thing about it all is it was so unplanned and the nature of the world at the moment is very erratic and it changes dramatically. So no one can control what’s going on and we’re doing our best as a playing group to represent our club, our fans and the game of rugby league and commit as much as we can.”

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The Warriors have a big decision to make. Photo: Chris Hyde/Getty Images
The Warriors have a big decision to make. Photo: Chris Hyde/Getty Images
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The NRL has already publicly stated the competition will continue if the Warriors are unable to field a side with the games regarded as byes.

George said some players may remain and play on and others could depart, meaning they would need to loan players from other clubs or sign those without an NRL contract to field a team.

“That’s another avenue we’ve been working with the NRL to try and play our part in keeping this competition alive, how can we backfill our roster if that is the case,” George said.

“It’ll be a collective decision (today). I have a position as an executive in the club, the owner will be involved, the coaching staff and the players but at the end of the day it’s about our club.”

 

[HoldenV8]

For those who live by "she'll be right" as your mantra - Go outside and lick a public hand rail then.

If you can't see the problems in an overwhelmed heath system, including exhausted or sick personnel, lack of respirators, and lack of beds then I guess it's time to teach pigeons some chess. There's plenty of info out there from the professionals who are also busy trying to manage the crises and may not have time to spoon-feed the masses on an hourly bases. there's nothing political about this at all.

Using the number of deaths of anything vs the virus is not a persuasive argument, and hospitals aren't simply waiting around for people to contract the virus.

If a hospital has 200 beds and 3 respirators....it makes sense to me to do our best to avoid 2000 people turning up needing 50 respirators, not to mention the other reasons people need to go to hospitals; accidents, cancer, milkshakes.


edit: The consumeristic 'rape' of the supermarkets due to panic buying is hugely disappointing and I have no faith in humanity if something much more drastic comes along.

PS: the water in Venice is clear again. 🙂

Here in South Australia, the state government announced earlier this week that they might be re-opening one of the recently closed hospitals in Adelaide specifically for coronavirus testing and treatment in an effort to not only take the pressure from the existing hospitals but also to hopefully keep the virus out of those places like hospitals and GP clinics where there are or will be vulnerable patients.

Its actually not a bad idea. The problem is having enough staff to actually run a re-open a hospital without taking staff away from the existing ones.

 

[HoldenV8]

And in the latest bull**** I can’t get Ventolin , and as a Asthma sufferer that could be disastrous.

It’s not a prescription medication any longer so anyone can buy it.

I still have my prescription version ( steroids) but I’m limited to how much of that I can use.

So toilet paper , hand sanitizer, , rice, pasta, UHT milk , MINCE and now Ventolin!!

I know this isn’t NRL related but had to vent somewhere!!

My other half has exactly the same problem with her asthma, and she also has COPD (Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease). Luckily we do have a supply in the house because she replenished after the Kangaroo Island bush fire which saw a fair bit of smoke from the island get blown up the coast all the way to at least Adelaide (we're only 80 km or so away in Adelaide's southern suburbs). But its still a worry now that Ventolin is an over the counter thing and not prescription.

Want to know how some scumbags are trying to profit from this? My local United (independent) servo here got named and shamed on Adelaide's nightly news (all stations) because they were caught trying to sell 4 packs of toilet paper for $60. That's $15 per freaking roll. We managed to score a 32 pack from Coles on Wednesday morning for $15 (going by his prices, that 32 pack would have cost $480).

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Its actually not a bad idea. The problem is having enough staff to actually run a re-open a hospital without taking staff away from the existing ones.

Necessity is the mother of invention!
"Over a thousand laid-off SAS airline workers in Sweden are being offered fast-track healthcare training to help Sweden's beleaguered healthcare system to fight the coronavirus." [abc.net.au]

 

[Bearfax]

Lot of criticism of social media, politicians and of course the shock jocks, and the panic it has caused. Yes perhaps it should all be done more effectively, but I for one dont blame people for reacting as they have. The problem is we are trying to compare apples with oranges when we talk of how many usually die of flu or are killed on the roads and that only 5 have died in Australia and less than a thousand reported ill. Common Flu has a 0.1% death rate, Covid 19 has at least a 1% death rate, and so far for older citizens close to 5-8%.

But this is very early days with this illness, an illness that kills far more per hundred people than any other easily contractible illness there has been since the Spanish Flu, that has become global. AIDS is the only comparison, but we know that cant be passed on like respiratory illness like this one. A quarter of a million people world wide have now reported being ill with this disease. Almost 10,000 deaths. Its a wake up call.

Maybe a cure will be found quickly enough for the disease to be stalled. Maybe it will burn out. But generally illnesses like this, unless contained, increase exponentially. We cant wait until the death rate here in Oz reaches tens of thousands, maybe more. And this illness, uncontained, has the ability to achieve that. We dont want to look back and say, we should have realised how serious it was back in March 2020. Overstating it is probably over the top, but I'd prefer that to understating it and risk complacency. I'm 69, diabetic and believe me I'm taking it seriously.

 

[The Wheel]

Warriors commit to remaining in Australia

Corey RosserNRL.com reporter
Timestamp
Fri 20 Mar 2020,
Warriors CEO Cameron George has announced captain Roger Tuivasa-Sheck and his team have reaffirmed their commitment to stay in Australia and continue in the 2020 NRL premiership in the face of the coronavirus pandemic.
Soon after the Australian and New Zealand governments had announced they would close their borders last night, George said the Warriors had met to confirm their desire to remain after spending this week in camp in Kingscliff in northern NSW before their second-round game against the Canberra Raiders in Robina on Saturday night.

They’ll now follow their "home" game at Cbus Super Stadium with a trip to Sydney to face the Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles at Lottoland next Friday.

George said the players had demonstrated exceptional commitment to both the club and fans as well as the competition itself.

"It's really great to be able to stand here and advise the public and our fans and our sponsors that the team, along with their families, have made a decision with our support to stay in the competition, stand tall, stand proud," George said.

"I am just really proud of Roger and Stephen and the boys, and their families, for making this decision.


"The NRL need us now, we're there, we're standing tall and we're very proud of doing that for our fans and our families."

George said the Warriors understood the important role they played in the overall picture.

"The NRL need us now, we're there, we're standing tall and we're very proud of doing that for our fans and our families," he said.

"It's been a testing time for these guys, it's been a testing time for the club.

"The most important thing is we gave them time to evaluate everything, gave them time to discuss it with their family because there are huge sacrifices."

George added that the time provided by NRL management helped the club deal with the situation.

"I want to acknowledge the NRL through this process. Peter V'landys and Todd Greenberg have been outstanding leaders through extremely difficult times for the game," he said.

"They've been patient with us, they've understood everyone's reasons, frustrations, but at all times they allowed us to make our decision when it suited us.

"At all times we made it very clear to them it was always based on the players and their families and the decision they wanted to make."

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

Warriors commit to remaining in Australia

Corey RosserNRL.com reporter
Timestamp
Fri 20 Mar 2020,
Warriors CEO Cameron George has announced captain Roger Tuivasa-Sheck and his team have reaffirmed their commitment to stay in Australia and continue in the 2020 NRL premiership in the face of the coronavirus pandemic.
Soon after the Australian and New Zealand governments had announced they would close their borders last night, George said the Warriors had met to confirm their desire to remain after spending this week in camp in Kingscliff in northern NSW before their second-round game against the Canberra Raiders in Robina on Saturday night.

They’ll now follow their "home" game at Cbus Super Stadium with a trip to Sydney to face the Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles at Lottoland next Friday.

George said the players had demonstrated exceptional commitment to both the club and fans as well as the competition itself.

"It's really great to be able to stand here and advise the public and our fans and our sponsors that the team, along with their families, have made a decision with our support to stay in the competition, stand tall, stand proud," George said.

"I am just really proud of Roger and Stephen and the boys, and their families, for making this decision.


"The NRL need us now, we're there, we're standing tall and we're very proud of doing that for our fans and our families."

George said the Warriors understood the important role they played in the overall picture.

"The NRL need us now, we're there, we're standing tall and we're very proud of doing that for our fans and our families," he said.

"It's been a testing time for these guys, it's been a testing time for the club.

"The most important thing is we gave them time to evaluate everything, gave them time to discuss it with their family because there are huge sacrifices."

George added that the time provided by NRL management helped the club deal with the situation.

"I want to acknowledge the NRL through this process. Peter V'landys and Todd Greenberg have been outstanding leaders through extremely difficult times for the game," he said.

"They've been patient with us, they've understood everyone's reasons, frustrations, but at all times they allowed us to make our decision when it suited us.

"At all times we made it very clear to them it was always based on the players and their families and the decision they wanted to make."

Good work #GoWarriors

PS: except when you play Manly

 

[manly al]

Another interesting point the Qld Uni guy mentioned is an Australian guy working at a Singapore University research centre has isolated the virus for the first time and concluded the strain in Singapore is a mutated weaker version and suggests that may be the case in Southern Asia which may explain the lack of serious issues in Vietnam etc
That may well explain our lack of deaths at this stage
I hope so

So he is implying that a hotter climate lessens the severity of the virus . Could be wrong but don "t think that the virus has been that serious in warmer conditions that often prevail in countries such as Thailand , Malaysia Burma and India . Totally unpredictable but at this stage at least ,still does not seem to be proportionally a serious problem in Northern Australia . Always have to allow for the delay transmission factor but again only a very limited rate there to date at least .

 

[double hoops]

The NRL need to go under for the betterment of the game. Fancy telling us the game is in jeapardy unless ever round of NRL and Soo and finals is played. How badly run can ya get. Greenturd and the NRL can go, but the game will be reborn bigger and better than ever without em.
Piss Off ya greenturd.

 

[40 years an eagle]

Fancy telling us the game is in jeapardy unless ever round of NRL and Soo and finals is played.

They said this because it is true. Tv revenue is reliant on ALL of the above games being played. It is contractual.

 

[40 years an eagle]

So he is implying that a hotter climate lessens the severity of the virus . Could be wrong but don "t think that the virus has been that serious in warmer conditions that often prevail in countries such as Thailand , Malaysia Burma and India . Totally unpredictable but at this stage at least ,still does not seem to be proportionally a serious problem in Northern Australia . Always have to allow for the delay transmission factor but again only a very limited rate there to date at least .

I live in the Philippines and it is hot as hell and the infection rate here is currently 217 out of the 100+ million population. Filipinos are very family oriented and generations live all together.Manila has 20+ million and many live 10 to a room in abhorrently squalid conditions. It appears the climate limits the virus' growth and spread.

The virus would go through this place in days if the climatic conditions were favourable for it.

 

[wombatgc]

NRL might be reduced to a monthly 9s tournament played out of Norfolk Island the way its heading.

I lived and worked there 30 years ago. They had three teams red, blue, green. One week on, one week off (but you’d end up subbing for the other sides on the off week anyway). Mostly Kiwis, a cpl Aussies, and a cpl natives. I thought it’d be a walk in the park. Turns out they take their footy very seriously. I remember my first touch, expecting to do an in and away on the opposing centre. ....came too on the ground, with our kiwi trainer waving smelling salts under my nose. He was like Wow bro, you got fkn hammered!
The best part of the weekend was after when they’d have a fresh fish fry in the old convict area. All the locals and tourists were there. I’m not a fishing person, but I’ll never forget the name of one of the nicest fish I’ve ever eaten....’trumperter’....it might be called something different here. Learnt how to scuba dive there too. (Fuuck the night dives going through underwater caves!) It’s only a small island, but the community spirit they had there was awesome.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

I lived and worked there 30 years ago. They had three teams red, blue, green. One week on, one week off (but you’d end up subbing for the other sides on the off week anyway). Mostly Kiwis, a cpl Aussies, and a cpl natives. I thought it’d be a walk in the park. Turns out they take their footy very seriously. I remember my first touch, expecting to do an in and away on the opposing centre. ....came too on the ground, with our kiwi trainer waving smelling salts under my nose. He was like Wow bro, you got fkn hammered!
The best part of the weekend was after when they’d have a fresh fish fry in the old convict area. All the locals and tourists were there. I’m not a fishing person, but I’ll never forget the name of one of the nicest fish I’ve ever eaten....’trumperter’....it might be called something different here. Learnt how to scuba dive there too. (Fuuck the night dives going through underwater caves!) It’s only a small island, but the community spirit they had there was awesome.

Love the island fish fry , and yes great fishing there although obviously everything is offshore.

Nice bowls club and I think a good little 9 hole golf course.

BUT it’s for the “‘newly wed or nearly dead “ as a destination.

 

[wombatgc]

Love the island fish fry , and yes great fishing there although obviously everything is offshore.

Nice bowls club and I think a good little 9 hole golf course.

BUT it’s for the “‘newly wed or nearly dead “ as a destination.

Luckily for me, I hooked up with one of the few local girls my age that still lived there. Otherwise I wouldn’t have lasted a week.

 

[WESTIE]

Wonder how much the Warriors players decison might have been based on " no play - no pay " ????

 

[globaleagle]

Luckily for me, I hooked up with one of the few local girls my age that still lived there. Otherwise I wouldn’t have lasted a week.

That must have been one old sheep!

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

This is said to be the study which (belatedly) has changed the attitude of US President Trump, who was initially skeptical that coronavirus posed a serious health danger. It's dated 16 March.

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf