Loobs
Living in the demountable.
Exactly. No one person is bigger than the club. That includes Tooves and Zorba and any of the Penn's. We support the jersey first and foremost.
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I agree with what you're saying but losing Tooves has personally been a real kick in the guts and it's going to take some of us a little longer to forgive.
Bearfax
Grizzly old fart
I think there are two issues here. One is the coach and the other is what they are doing about recruitment.
Concerning the coach, I think the Penns have behaved abominably. They have pushed a favourite son out by decimating his squad to a point where they were struggling to be competitive without giving him effective replacements. I know the salary cap issue contributed and especially the back end contracts, but they set Toovey up to fail and I suspect it was personal. I have nothing against Barrett, and he may succeed and good luck to him. But to replace an experienced and successful coach with a virtual novice says to me they just wanted Toovey out. Why didnt they consider Heath, the U20s coach for example? And is it co-incidence that they are now changing their recruitment policy. Disgraceful..
The second issue though, which I think is where Fulton comes in (and I dont think he's behind Toovey's sacking) is the clean out. I can see the logic in this even though it may seem painful for some of the better performing players nearing the twilight years. Manly has a bunch of outstanding young players coming through and space and money has to be made available for them or they will leave. Kids like Demetriou, Knight, Ramien, Bainbridge, Pearsall, Chee-Kam, Satini etc have to know there is space for them opening up for higher honours and pay. We've lost a couple of top juniors in recent years, the latest being Sao. Other clubs are swooping. We must have the money to keep them.
Further bringing in one or two top liners and a bunch of top youngsters also enhances this.tactic, in my opinion. Wrong decision regarding Toovey. Right decision regarding recruitment policy (finally).
Concerning the coach, I think the Penns have behaved abominably. They have pushed a favourite son out by decimating his squad to a point where they were struggling to be competitive without giving him effective replacements. I know the salary cap issue contributed and especially the back end contracts, but they set Toovey up to fail and I suspect it was personal. I have nothing against Barrett, and he may succeed and good luck to him. But to replace an experienced and successful coach with a virtual novice says to me they just wanted Toovey out. Why didnt they consider Heath, the U20s coach for example? And is it co-incidence that they are now changing their recruitment policy. Disgraceful..
The second issue though, which I think is where Fulton comes in (and I dont think he's behind Toovey's sacking) is the clean out. I can see the logic in this even though it may seem painful for some of the better performing players nearing the twilight years. Manly has a bunch of outstanding young players coming through and space and money has to be made available for them or they will leave. Kids like Demetriou, Knight, Ramien, Bainbridge, Pearsall, Chee-Kam, Satini etc have to know there is space for them opening up for higher honours and pay. We've lost a couple of top juniors in recent years, the latest being Sao. Other clubs are swooping. We must have the money to keep them.
Further bringing in one or two top liners and a bunch of top youngsters also enhances this.tactic, in my opinion. Wrong decision regarding Toovey. Right decision regarding recruitment policy (finally).
The Who
Journey Man
I felt the same when Bozo went to Easts, Fatty was sacked, and they didn't renew Beaver's contract. Those feelings pass, but the support for whoever in playing for the famous Manly Sea Eagles never dies.
Yes for now I will only be supporting the Manly players & not club management.
Loaded dog
Well used Member
Just saw a photo of TB. A bit disconcerting that he's also got some fashionable stubble! Will Scotty put up with him doing this? Will he think that Trent is taking the pissout of him??
I have just been thinking about the pressure TB will be under as soon as he arrives.
After what's transpired in 2015 it will be immense.
Glad it's him and not me.
After what's transpired in 2015 it will be immense.
Glad it's him and not me.
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Didn't realise we skipped a year mark " What's transpired in 2015 it will be immense " is what you were looking for.
It wont be only TB that will be under pressure , Every one involved in making this change will be
Whoops!! Lol, I'll edit that now!!
Yes but TB answers to the board, the people who made the recent decisions answer to no one!!
If we are 0-5 the hatchet men will be out.
The Des rumours will heat up.
Barrett was never my cup of tea as a player and I dont care for him as coach. John Cartwright, ppffftt I like the passionate type who has shed blood for our team.
I reckon Geoff Toovey would make a great coach.
The Des rumours will heat up.
Barrett was never my cup of tea as a player and I dont care for him as coach. John Cartwright, ppffftt I like the passionate type who has shed blood for our team.
I reckon Geoff Toovey would make a great coach.
Jatz Crackers
First Grader
It doesnt take much to look into the future and imagine one day:
NRL Coach: G. Toovey
Operations Manager Football: S. Menzies
Fitness & Conditioning: M. Ballin
Recruitment: B. Fulton
Legal Advisory: J. King
killerspud
Reserve Grader
Why is'nt the Beaver more involved with Manly? Or does he hold a position i am unaware of? I asked because he & spud are my favourite players...hence the name killerspud!
Shoe1
Journey Man
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