Welcome Anthony Seibold... and good luck

[BOZO]

Bring back the Sack Seibold thread, it was more fun 😉

Fun times at Manly are only when Manly is Winning feathered friend Rosco

 

[manly al]

Gee , so many factors and variables can influence an overall coaching record at N R L level .
Having the right cattle , injuries , not having players in key positions available on a regular basis .
Seibold seems to have honed Manly "s attack to a really competitive standard , still some work to do for a more consistent and reliable defensive cohesion or effectiveness , especially in the early stages .
Though have managed it occasionally and against some of the better sides as well during his tenure .
Generally seems to get the team balance, selections and recent recruitments right and that is a definite positive

 

[Terry Zarsoff]

Come on Tez, don't drop the ball

Do I need a blue pill?

 

[nightster]

Do I need a blue pill?

hard question

 

[47MVEagle]

Come back and tell me he can coach when he has won a Premiership for us. Until then he isn't a pubic hair on Haslers underwear.

No

 

[47MVEagle]

At no stage did I say I wanted to keep Hasler. But the post I responded to inferred that Seibold was a better coach that Hasler. This is demonstrably wrong. My preference would have been to have Flanagan, but that ship has sailed. I think Seibold has the ability as a coach to have us consistently finishing 6th-8th, but I see little chance of a Premiership under his tenure and for me that's just not acceptable.

He is a better coach than Hasler 2.0

 

[BOZO]

He is a better coach than Hasler 2.0

The Better perspective
We finished 4th on the ladder in 2021 with Hasler 2.0
When we finish above 4th Seibold will have a better result
At the moment we are 6th on the ladder
Last season the Seibold Manly team finished 12th

 

[Ralphie]

He is a better coach than Hasler 2.0

Your opinion only. Your measure for Hasler was badly impacted by the rainbow jersey fiasco and losing Tom for the season to a shoulder injury etc etc Like I said, I didn't want to keep him, but Seibold so far is absolutely not a step up on Hasler and in my honest opinion never will be. I sincerely hope you are right, and I am wrong, but I just can't see it.

 

[Ohgeez]

Your opinion only. Your measure for Hasler was badly impacted by the rainbow jersey fiasco and losing Tom for the season to a shoulder injury etc etc Like I said, I didn't want to keep him, but Seibold so far is absolutely not a step up on Hasler and in my honest opinion never will be. I sincerely hope you are right, and I am wrong, but I just can't see it.

Turbo missed half the season last year & missed another big chunk this year. Why is Toms injuries an excuse for Haslers record but not Siebolds? I actually think we look a lot better without Turbo now then we did under Des as well

 

[Under the Sticks]

Do I need a blue pill?

Depends what the red pill does.

 

[Cameron]

I've been thinking about this. Siebs is contracted to 2025

If we miss the 8 I've always said he should be moved on so I think he's safe now.

If we make the 8 and go out first week we see what happens next year.

if we make it to the second week or finish top 4 id give him a year extension to 2026

A prelim or gf he gets extended until 2027

If we some how one the comp the bloke gets as long as he wants.

Its a results driven business.

 

[TokyoEagle]

Turbo missed half the season last year & missed another big chunk this year. Why is Toms injuries an excuse for Haslers record but not Siebolds? I actually think we look a lot better without Turbo now then we did under Des as well

Would that not be a positive to Siebold's coaching?

 

[TokyoEagle]

I've been thinking about this. Siebs is contracted to 2025

If we miss the 8 I've always said he should be moved on so I think he's safe now.

If we make the 8 and go out first week we see what happens next year.

if we make it to the second week or finish top 4 id give him a year extension to 2026

A prelim or gf he gets extended until 2027

If we some how one the comp the bloke gets as long as he wants.

Its a results driven business.

While generalities are great, you need to see how a footy team is travelling before judging. Results, and sports, are not always black and white.

 

[double hoops]

Hasler is going to lead titans to a bottom 4 finish & people are still talking like we lost some unbelievable coach? Don’t get me wrong, back in the day he was at the top but the game has gone passed him. Apart from that fluke 2021 season when Turbo had 1 of the best individual seasons of all time he hasn’t looked close to taking a team to the GF for 10 years unlike the top coaches Bennet, Robinson, Bellamy, Cleary

It's interesting to listen to choc speak of DES during those premiership years.

Reckons he is absolutely the mad professor who would come up with crazy things that just didn't work, BUT Gifty was the only one who could talk to Des, balance him out, and modify DES's play.

Gifty and Choc are close so take with a grain of Salt.

But the Ying does need a Yang.

Chocs not the only one to call him the Mad Professor.

A DES without a Gifty has not won another premiership.

 

[47MVEagle]

Your opinion only. Your measure for Hasler was badly impacted by the rainbow jersey fiasco and losing Tom for the season to a shoulder injury etc etc Like I said, I didn't want to keep him, but Seibold so far is absolutely not a step up on Hasler and in my honest opinion never will be. I sincerely hope you are right, and I am wrong, but I just can't see it.

You’re happy to make excuses for Des’ poor performance yet Seibold gets no such latitude 🤔

 

[47MVEagle]

Des 2.0:

2019 - 6th - 14 wins, 10 losses (60%)
2020 - 13th - 7 wins, 13 losses (35%)
2021 - 4th - 16 wins, 8 losses (66%)
2022 - 11th - 9 wins, 15 losses (37.5%)

An overall winning percentage of 50%.

Seibold:

2023 - 12th - 11 wins, 12 losses (48%)
2024 (so far) - 6th - 11 wins, 8 losses (58%)

An overall winning percentage of 52%.

So far Siebold’s worst year is still better than 2 of Des 2.0’s seasons.

 

[BOZO]

Des 2.0:

2019 - 6th - 14 wins, 10 losses (60%)
2020 - 13th - 7 wins, 13 losses (35%)
2021 - 4th - 16 wins, 8 losses (66%)
2022 - 11th - 9 wins, 15 losses (37.5%)

An overall winning percentage of 50%.

Seibold:

2023 - 12th - 11 wins, 12 losses (48%)
2024 (so far) - 6th - 11 wins, 8 losses (58%)

An overall winning percentage of 52%.

So far Siebold’s worst year is still better than 2 of Des 2.0’s seasons.

Des 2.0: and Below his best version could still manage to get Manly a superior top 4 finish.
Lets not forget the senseless and Divisive Penn Marketing Rainbow Disaster that decimated the spirit of the Manly team and caused players to withdraw from playing

2024 has not ended yet. Lets wait and see where Seibolds finishes at the end of this year before we celebrate his so called 2% superiority

 

[lsz]

Honestly I feel like we are closer to a comp with Seibs than Des (not that I think we will win it but it seems more of a chance than it did in the Des days)

 

[Ralphie]

You’re happy to make excuses for Des’ poor performance yet Seibold gets no such latitude 🤔

Forget about Hasler, Seibold won’t win us a Premiership…..period.

 

[Ralphie]

Des 2.0:

2019 - 6th - 14 wins, 10 losses (60%)
2020 - 13th - 7 wins, 13 losses (35%)
2021 - 4th - 16 wins, 8 losses (66%)
2022 - 11th - 9 wins, 15 losses (37.5%)

An overall winning percentage of 50%.

Seibold:

2023 - 12th - 11 wins, 12 losses (48%)
2024 (so far) - 6th - 11 wins, 8 losses (58%)

An overall winning percentage of 52%.

So far Siebold’s worst year is still better than 2 of Des 2.0’s seasons.

How many Premiership’s has Seibold won? Des has two as our coach, my ONLY measure of success is Premierships.