We miss out again on Stadium handout

[ShanghaiEagle]

At what cost to The community has better hospital but not better for the northern beaches.

Anyway let's stick away from politics.

I much preferred the old hospitals.

 

[davohan123]

I much preferred the old hospitals.

I am with you 100% on this one

 

[Shoe1]

I much preferred the old hospitals.

I prefer the old rum hospital from first fleet days, or at a pinch I go to the old quarantine station for a sulphur bath when I feel poorly.

 

[Terry Zarsoff]

All I will say is ask Brad hazzard he is the member who is responsible for the northern beaches funding of Brookvale it’s in his seat of wakehurst.

he has been in long enough yet still has got nothing for Brookvale oval

This doesn’t do it for you? A $33m+ investment in the ground’s future. Brought to you by state govt funding.

 

[HoldenV8]

After the building and opening of the Arko Stand, the major works to Brookie have been the installing of lights and the extension to the Jane Try Stand. Not a new stand mind you, just a 20-30 metre extension that looks exactly the same as the rest of the stand.

The CoE is really the first really major redevelopment of Brookie since the Arko Stand.

Meanwhile, elsewhere in the NRL in Sydney/NSW since the mid-90s.....

• Campbelltown got completely redeveloped to what it is now.
• Kogarah got major renovations while PM John Howard was the clubs #1 ticket holder.
• Newcastle Stadium was almost completely re-developed with two brand new grandstands
• Wollongong Showground got a new stand backing onto their Entertainment Centre, plus the old grandstand was torn down and replaced with a 2 tier structure.
• Endeavour received a new stand and is now temporarily closed while under major re-development.
• Parramatta Stadium was torn down completely and replaced with bankwest.
• The SFS was torn down after only 30 years and is now being rebuilt into the same size, but will obviously be much more modern.

Brookvale and Penrith are the only full time NRL venues in Sydney or NSW that have not received major upgrades over the past 27 years, and I'm not 100% sure about Penrith in that category (I've not included the SCG as its really only being used as a temporary venue by the Chooks until the new SFS is built and opened).

 

[davohan123]

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Sorry that doesn't do it for me should of happened oh maybe 10 years ago but yes he did get us this but not enough in my eyes.

 

[Budgie]

‘Don’t forget us’: Manly wants to be at front of line for stadium funding

The Panthers’ home ground looks as if it will be the first to receive government funding for redevelopment, but the Sea Eagles don’t want to be forgotten.

www.smh.com.au

 

[Jerry1]

Brooky is good to watch the footy but fair play is a sheite venue. **** facilities an crap if the weather is bad. Needs bulldozing.

 

[davohan123]

‘Don’t forget us’: Manly wants to be at front of line for stadium funding

The Panthers’ home ground looks as if it will be the first to receive government funding for redevelopment, but the Sea Eagles don’t want to be forgotten.

www.smh.com.au

Now that's the talk I like to hear from Penn.

Penrith are only getting first priority because they are a key marginal seat for the government.

 

[The Wheel]

... but when players are injured they now have a bright, new hospital nearby in which to get treatment.

And a billion dollar tunnel and new road

 

[Woodsie]

I remember when they used to be able to build stadiums that lasted more than 30 years ...

 

[Shoe1]

This is what Penrith did with its last grant. **** em.

Labor refers Penrith MP Stuart Ayres to ICAC • The Western Weekender

Labor has confirmed it has referred Penrith MP Stuart Ayres to the Independent Commission Against Corruption (ICAC) over a grant to Panthers Leagues Club.

westernweekender.com.au

 

[Terry Zarsoff]

After the building and opening of the Arko Stand, the major works to Brookie have been the installing of lights and the extension to the Jane Try Stand. Not a new stand mind you, just a 20-30 metre extension that looks exactly the same as the rest of the stand.

The CoE is really the first really major redevelopment of Brookie since the Arko Stand.

Meanwhile, elsewhere in the NRL in Sydney/NSW since the mid-90s.....

• Campbelltown got completely redeveloped to what it is now.
• Kogarah got major renovations while PM John Howard was the clubs #1 ticket holder.
• Newcastle Stadium was almost completely re-developed with two brand new grandstands
• Wollongong Showground got a new stand backing onto their Entertainment Centre, plus the old grandstand was torn down and replaced with a 2 tier structure.
• Endeavour received a new stand and is now temporarily closed while under major re-development.
• Parramatta Stadium was torn down completely and replaced with bankwest.
• The SFS was torn down after only 30 years and is now being rebuilt into the same size, but will obviously be much more modern.

Brookvale and Penrith are the only full time NRL venues in Sydney or NSW that have not received major upgrades over the past 27 years, and I'm not 100% sure about Penrith in that category (I've not included the SCG as its really only being used as a temporary venue by the Chooks until the new SFS is built and opened).

Let’s break it down:

Newcastle and Wollongong, respectively NSW’s 2nd and 3rd largest cities. They deserve decent stadiums. Enough said.

Endeavour: $9.6m grant from the feds to build their dinky little southern stand completed in 2008, a then contemporary version of the 1979 equivalent at Brookvale. Any work in the previous 12 years (adhering to your 25 year window) like TV standard lighting, new seating, et al, was largely a part of their windfall for joining Superleague.

The current work there is primarily associated with LC upgrades, commercial development etc, funded from their real estate dealings. Here is a link: PointsBet Stadium Redevelopment (Shark Park) | Austadiums

Penrith: like Cronulla, benefited from their SL foray. I believe they funded TV standard lighting from that windfall. About $30m was spent on extending and upgrading the western stand and amenities’ improvements at the southern end, after discovering they couldn’t build a new stand there because of a water mains underneath, which would have blown the budget. Penrith Stadium - Wikipedia (some of the dates are wobbly).

Kogarah: probably around $25-30m spent in tranches since c.2002 to get it to where it is now. Netstrata Jubilee Stadium | Austadiums

Campbelltown: redeveloped in the lead up to the Sydney Olympics. About $22m spent. Campbelltown Stadium | Austadiums

My point? In the same 25 year period from 1996 onwards and since emerging from the uncertainties of the Superleague War and a JV with Norths, about $45-50m will have been spent at Brookvale by the start of next season.

Here is a breakdown:

I am relying in general on my memory, so some of the earlier amounts could be rubbery, but they are relatively small anyway!

Approx. $200-400k on tennis boxes in the southern part of the JT stand prior to the 2003 season.

Approx. $800k on an electronic scoreboard and more tennis boxes, this time at the northern of the JT stand, in time for the 2004 season. Those monies largely from the state government.

$1m for TV standard lighting in time for the 2006 season. All up let’s say $2.2m over about three years. Funded by the feds.

Over $10m from 2007 onwards ($4m from Council, $6m from the state, plus additional money to replace the SE entrance in accordance with enforceable OHS requirements). The bulk was spent on new seating across all stands, expanded corporate facilities in the KA stand and the northern extension of the JT stand - including more corporate facilities, amenities and a kiosk. All works completed c.2012.

A permanent video screen, c.2018/19. Let’s say $0.8-1m. Just prior to that, the ground’s second personnel lift, for the KA stand. An earlier one was included in the JT extension. Let’s say $0.8m for the newer one. Council funding.

And now the CoE and stand - budgeted at $33.1m. Largely state government funding, with the club chipping in.

Then Council are providing $1.2m for a relaid playing surface and new boundary fencing.

Those figures are notional - noting that with (albeit low) inflation over the last 25-30 years, those earlier figures would be somewhat higher in 2021 dollars. So in current dollars, monies spent on Brookvale Oval over the last quarter century could exceed $50m, once current and envisaged works are completed.

Remembering too that just prior to your timeframe, around $3.5-4m was spent on the KA stand and other works, completed in 1995.

That looks quite impressive against the Penrith, Endeavour, Campbelltown and Kogarah examples. Sure much of the money is for the CoE, but that is integral to the ground. A clever move.

Thanks for reading. Ciao.

 

[MissKate]

Not sure what ever came out of the stupid ayres ICAC investigation, guessing his Mrs pulled a few favours to make it go away

 

[Shoe1]

Not sure what ever came out of the stupid ayres ICAC investigation, guessing his Mrs pulled a few favours to make it go away

Funny couple, to me they are each other’s beard.

 

[Terry Zarsoff]

Looking after your mates..

More like clever strategy if you have a slender majority in the legislative assembly.

 

[Terry Zarsoff]

Not sure what ever came out of the stupid ayres ICAC investigation, guessing his Mrs pulled a few favours to make it go away

You want to be careful with comments like that.

 

[Jerry1]

More like clever strategy if you have a slender majority in the legislative assembly.

Same same

 

[Mac Man]

Lights in the toilets was a massive upgrade - Helped many Parra Supporters find their old Fellahs.

 

[eagleron]

I remember when they used to be able to build stadiums that lasted more than 30 years ...

Ask the Romans