Walker cleared to play.

[Harvies elbow]

Buzz has an NRL wall of shame?
He should be front and centre...

 

[brad]

Don't know how he could go overseas with an assault on him .

 

[HappilyManly]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...screaming-baby.html?__twitter_impression=true

Amazing coincidence in the News for those who can't see how a trivial video game can trigger assault

 

[davohan123]

https://onlineregistry.lawlink.nsw....ts#/detail/20180037642818450687MentionPolice/

Walkers court listing

 

[brad]

I'll bet there will be an adjournment.

 

[Volley]

I am a little perplexed at some of the comments on here. Firstly, I believe no person here on silvertails would condone DV against any person, let alone a female, or a child.

However, for all those that believe Walker must be banished, sacked, let go... I have a very simple question;
Did you see the incident first hand from start to finish? Or is the opinion based on hearsay from a third party (a journo).

I personally do not like Walker due to the way he conducts himself. However, I know there are three sides to every story and we should all be very aware by now that ‘journos’ will stick the boot in to our club, players and fans at every available opportunity.

I honestly could not care less if Walker never plays for us again, and if found guilty he should not play for anyone again. In saying that, any matter in the criminal jurisdiction carries the presumption of ‘innocent till proven guilty beyond a resonable doubt’

Just because I dont like the guy, he has a human right and a legitemate expectation under our rule of law to have his matter heard by a court and pressumed innocent, until proven otherwise.

As above I dont like the guy, but its not my position to judge him until all the evidence is tendered and examined, to arrive at a formal decision with reasonings of those decisions.

Lets not forget several other players in the NRL have done just as bad if not worse, even at our own club (one who currently plays with us), yet we are happy to have that player on our books.

She’s got injuries and an AVO has been taken out on him and he’s been charged. The fiancée obviously thinks he’s responsible. The only way he’s found not guilty here is if she changes her mind, à la Greg Bird’s girlfriend. You were happy Greg Bird was allowed to play on, because the justice system works right?

 

[Shoe1]

Was he playing ET’s rugby league on sega?

 

[Spartan Eagle]

She’s got injuries and an AVO has been taken out on him and he’s been charged. The fiancée obviously thinks he’s responsible. The only way he’s found not guilty here is if she changes her mind, à la Greg Bird’s girlfriend. You were happy Greg Bird was allowed to play on, because the justice system works right?

His fiancee didn't take the avo out against Walker, the police did.

 

[DUFFMAN]

His fiancee didn't take the avo out against Walker, the police did.

Maybe she will say nothing happened in court knowing a guilty charge means he will lose his job and income.
I have no idea if they are living together still but him getting sacked will affect her financially too. It's completely wrong if he is guilty but he escapes the penalty and keeps his job for this reason.

 

[EOL now nesting on the GC]

after an Adjournment today which will buy the people that need time to sort stuff the time they need to 'sort stuff' I feel she may withdraw any complaint at the last moment. Child Maintenance on $600000 is a lot better than on the dole.... stranger things have happened.

 

[urulion]

She’s got injuries and an AVO has been taken out on him and he’s been charged. The fiancée obviously thinks he’s responsible. The only way he’s found not guilty here is if she changes her mind, à la Greg Bird’s girlfriend. You were happy Greg Bird was allowed to play on, because the justice system works right?

Several major flaws with your analogy.

1. Being charged is one thing, being convicted and sentenced is another.

2. Since when is a legal issue determined on what an individual thinks?

3.Changing her mind is not the only way Walker can be found not guilty. The evidence can be tried and all these witnesses cross-examined, then based on those facts, not opinions, a decision can be handed down.

4. Was I happy for Greg Bird to play on? Can you kindly show me where and when I have suggested, indicated, or stated on silvertails, or any where else, that I was happy for Greg Bird to glass his girlfriend and play on?

 

[bob dylan]

FMD the assault was over playstation game?

NSW Police will allege that an argument over PlayStation led to NRL star Dylan Walker assaulting his fiancée, when the Sea Eagle faces Manly Local Court on Tuesday.

The Daily Telegraph reports that a fight over a video game caused the incident where Walker allegedly yanked the hair of his 24-year-old fiancée as she ran out of their Dee Why home.

https://www.sportingnews.com/au/lea...me-dispute-reports/143f7ivilrg1l1o473zr1cbs84

This generation have a lot of growing up to do.

I presume he pursued her on his skateboard or scooter.

Seriously if this generation has to defend our shores at any stage we are ****ed.

As a good friend of mine always says "freedom is a funny word because it doesnt come free".

 

[niccipops]

I am a little perplexed at some of the comments on here. Firstly, I believe no person here on silvertails would condone DV against any person, let alone a female, or a child.

However, for all those that believe Walker must be banished, sacked, let go... I have a very simple question;
Did you see the incident first hand from start to finish? Or is the opinion based on hearsay from a third party (a journo).

I personally do not like Walker due to the way he conducts himself. However, I know there are three sides to every story and we should all be very aware by now that ‘journos’ will stick the boot in to our club, players and fans at every available opportunity.

I honestly could not care less if Walker never plays for us again, and if found guilty he should not play for anyone again. In saying that, any matter in the criminal jurisdiction carries the presumption of ‘innocent till proven guilty beyond a resonable doubt’

Just because I dont like the guy, he has a human right and a legitemate expectation under our rule of law to have his matter heard by a court and pressumed innocent, until proven otherwise.

As above I dont like the guy, but its not my position to judge him until all the evidence is tendered and examined, to arrive at a formal decision with reasonings of those decisions.

Lets not forget several other players in the NRL have done just as bad if not worse, even at our own club (one who currently plays with us), yet we are happy to have that player on our books.

Very good points regarding his rights to be heard in the courts and the presumption of innocence. The problem is this guy has an alarming track record of misbehaviour. He probably needs some psychological help and IMO the rugby league world where winning takes priority and young men are hero worshiped because they can play the game just may be the exact opposite of the environment Dylan needs at the moment to help him become a good man. Which is what counts.

 

[Mitch]

#Breaking - Dylan Walker leaves home with his fiancée Alexandra Ivkovic at his side. He’s due to face court shortly charged with assaulting her last week. Police took out an AVO against him on her behalf after neighbours allegedly witnessed him attack her.

 

[47MVEagle]

He'll plead not guilty so his case will be adjourned, which will give him time to attend anger management classes & start doing a lot of high profile community work so by the time his case comes up he'll have had plenty of time to demonstrate he is a changed man, which will lessen the severity of any sentence he receives if he's found guilty.

On the matter of whether or not his fiancee may change her mind & withdraw charges - I thought the police were able to continue with DV prosecutions even if the plaintiff withdraws their statement?

 

[Mitch]

He'll plead not guilty so his case will be adjourned, which will give him time to attend anger management classes & start doing a lot of high profile community work so by the time his case comes up he'll have had plenty of time to demonstrate he is a changed man, which will lessen the severity of any sentence he receives if he's found guilty.

On the matter of whether or not his fiancee may change her mind & withdraw charges - I thought the police were able to continue with DV prosecutions even if the plaintiff withdraws their statement?

Yes it’s interesting to see they’re attending court together, yet there is an AVO in place. Go figure.

 

[manly al]

Now that there is a bit more detail mentioned in terms of Walker"s alleged action or misdemeanor and there were apparently some eye witnesses , i would be interested in knowing how much contrition or remorse he showed at the scene and after the incident , to his wife and concern for his kid .Another concerning thing is he fact that she was holding his young child at the time of the incident . If he was not severely intoxicated or impaired , and even allowing for any possible simmering tension between them , it would then seemed to have have been a brain snap of the highest order . The brain can be a complicated organ , anger management issues can be a product of other causes related to brain function of course also , irrespective he seems to need some specialist attention and help on a few fronts . Of course again just totally unacceptable conduct by him and consciously he should have still had some awareness of his actions .[ and before them ] How it will rate or be judged today in terms of the seriousness of the incident will be determined soon enough i guess . Regardless again for Dylan and in the still unlikely [ on current indications at least ] event that he can continue with the Sea Eagles , he definitely seems to require some specialist attention to get his life into some type of better order and for his family 's sake as well also .

 

[Woodsie]

Several major flaws with your analogy.

1. Being charged is one thing, being convicted and sentenced is another.

2. Since when is a legal issue determined on what an individual thinks?

3.Changing her mind is not the only way Walker can be found not guilty. The evidence can be tried and all these witnesses cross-examined, then based on those facts, not opinions, a decision can be handed down.

4. Was I happy for Greg Bird to play on? Can you kindly show me where and when I have suggested, indicated, or stated on silvertails, or any where else, that I was happy for Greg Bird to glass his girlfriend and play on?

And ... I am sure a big part of the eventual outcome will be the magnitute and severity of the assault ...... losing it and pulling your partners hair . whilst wrong and deserving of all our contempt ...... is not in the higher range of assaults ...... I doubt you would get much street cred in gaol when you told people you were "in" for hair pulling ......

In the mean time .... a postponent ..... the usual signing up for anger management courses and the appropriate councelling ... genuine contrition and the possibility of reconciliation .....

Unless there is a lot more we don't know about ... I can't see a judge imposing a maximum sentence ......

 

[Woodsie]

#Breaking - Dylan Walker leaves home with his fiancée Alexandra Ivkovic at his side. He’s due to face court shortly charged with assaulting her last week. Police took out an AVO against him on her behalf after neighbours allegedly witnessed him attack her.

Missed that ... thanks Mitch .... that's great news and I hope that they can work out their problems .... good luck to them and the child ...

 

[Walter Perolta]

Don't know how he could go overseas with an assault on him .

Mate we have all sorts of players in the nrl that have been done for far worse.. i dont think we should sack him at all. In fact we can get a cheaper contract out of him next season now hes a proven degenerate lol. Still better then what afb did by a country mile