The Manly forward pack are Soft

[Marto1970]

Will reserve judgement till 4-5 rounds in on the teams chances in 22..,,but based on tonight the thread is 100% fair
We got minced through the guts and the saddest part was, we went down with no fight.
Fro the outset Kikau, Gillard and Martin were pointing fingers and dishing out the mongrel, while Manly showed no desire to get into the battle
They even were stomping on our wingers and Harper when doing ugly hit ups, with 3, 4 and 5 man tackles and mocking them
When Manly made similar tackles, 3,4 Penrith players dug in behind to support their mates from getting buried and demoralised
Only game 1, but what's fair with this thread ...it's been since Waough, Gift and kite times since we stood up in a physical contest....hopefully can come to life soon

Finger pointing ? Do we have to get Hoppa back

 

[manly al]

B T W . i would go with Walker on the bench if Josh was considered as a 13 and whatever other combination there , . Walker to give Croker a break at 9 against the better sides in particular , need a bit more from a Manly 9 then what Froggy seems to offer against the higher ranked sides despite his competitive outlook .

 

[Ron E. Gibbs]

Let's see how the Panthers look after playing like that for 20 rounds, which they'll have to because every team will lift against the premiers.

I really hope that wasn't us "lifting" against them.

 

[Eagle thru 'n' thru]

Our forwards should've done 80 minutes of Extreme Zumba Classes 3 days a week in pre-season training. That would've had them ready to go.

 

[Brisbane Tragic]

I think the major difference with the forwards last night was that the Penrith forwards were hungry to be involved. Marty plays like he is really disinterested and the younger players were standing there with the "what's happening" look.

Wow... I must have watched a different Marty last night. One of the few with Jake and O who had a red hot go.

 

[Jerry1]

Parker, Harper, Croker and keppie 2 pissweak misses. Hasler got ****ing blinkers on

Parker was nigh on our best…

 

[Sea Eagle 4 Life]

Whats all the complaining about?
We are a 20 point better team compared to round 1 last year! (-42 Vs -22)

 

[HK_Eagle]

Whats all the complaining about?
We are a 20 point better team compared to round 1 last year! (-42 Vs -22)

That would be the 20+ points that Turbo adds to the team when playing, wouldn't it?

 

[The Royal Soup]

Lucky we didn't lose like our round 1, 46 - 4 loss last year. Image how bad the tanty would have been then!

imagine the savings… just 29 990

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

We were dominated , outclassed and given a football lesson by a red hot side last night , who if they play like that all year may well go back to back.

Can we improve , yes.

Will we improve , not guaranteed.

We’ll still finish 4th or 5th , but I don’t believe we’ll beat the top 3 sides and to me that comes down to an ineffectual forward pack.

There’s a few to come back in, maybe they can lift us , but I think overall the team as a whole has to lift and I’m just not sure that’s possible.

And don’t blame Croker , and don’t blame DCE or Foran , and don’t blame Jason Saab , this loss squarely lies with 8 forwards chosen to play last night.

 

[God]

Ultimately when we get a few back Id like to see:

Front row of
Josh A
James S
Jake

Second row
EthenB
Haumol

Lock
JoshS

Bench
Marty
Dylan Walker
Taniela
Toafofoa

Maybe that fixes some of the mess

 

[nightster]

Check out the 3 2 1 thread, so far nearly all the players have had a nomination as one of our best 3 on the night. Which suggests to me our players were not hopeless and are not inadequate.

We just got outplayed as a team. By a hot side brimming with confidence and determined to put on a show for their fans.

Some here are full of gloom but will be happier after we play the Chooks next week. I'm looking forward to that game, we've had an early jolt and will be back to our preferred underdog status

And so have the Rorters ... it’ll be a contest (I hope)

 

[nightster]

We were dominated , outclassed and given a football lesson by a red hot side last night , who if they play like that all year may well go back to back.

Can we improve , yes.

Will we improve , not guaranteed.

We’ll still finish 4th or 5th , but I don’t believe we’ll beat the top 3 sides and to me that comes down to an ineffectual forward pack.

There’s a few to come back in, maybe they can lift us , but I think overall the team as a whole has to lift and I’m just not sure that’s possible.

And don’t blame Croker , and don’t blame DCE or Foran , and don’t blame Jason Saab , this loss squarely lies with 8 forwards chosen to play last night.

Yeah they were given a lesson, just hope they and Des, learn from it, all the winners this week, so far, and the sharpies, would have belted us in the forwards

 

[davohan123]

I hope a few of our forwards are watching the knights boys and there pack take it to the roosters boys, they didn’t give them an inch and hunted the roosters down.

very high energy and played a very aggressive style against the roosters.

 

[NZEaglesFan]

Forward Leader. When you google Alpha Male, it say “a strong and successful man who likes to be in charge of others”. This is someone who will stand up when the chips are down, inspiring other around him to stand up, step up and give 110% and most importantly, never back down.

When you compare us to other teams or Sea Eagles teams of yesteryears, I think we would agree that we are missing that forward who is capable of either leading or dominating / bulling the opposition. I have gone through other teams and compared them to us and found this:

Penrith - James Fisher-Harris / Liam Martin
Raiders - Joseph Tapine / Josh Papalii
Sharks - Dale Finucane / Braden Hamlin-Uele / Andrew Fifita
Broncos - Payne Haas
Rabbitohs - Keaon Koloamatangi
Roosters - Jared Waerea-Hargreaves / Victor Radley / Lindsay Collins
Knights - David Klemmer / Tyson Frizell
Warriors - Addin Fonua-Blake
Dragons - Jack de Belin / Tariq Sims / Jaydn Su'a
West - ??
Storm – Nelson Asofa-Solomona / Jesse Bromwich / Christian Welch
Eels – Nathan Brown / Junior Paulo / Reagan Campbell-Gillard
Titans – Tino Fa'asuamaleaui / David Fifita / Jarrod Wallace
Cowboys - ??
Bulldogs – Josh Jackson / Tevita Pangai Junior

Manly – Jake Trbojevic / Martin Taupau ??
Manly team from last 20-25 years – BK, Choc, Gift, Spud before that.

Whilst we need skillful players, we still need 1 or 2 players who the opposition need to go through in order to get to the play makers/ Tommy etc. At the moment we are missing that steel and I we do not remedy this, DCE and Turbo will not be able to do their stuff.

 

[Eagles4Life]

I would say some of the Manly "fans" on here are definitely as weak as piss. Our forwards not so much. I will definitely be revisiting some of the comments in this thread after we beat the Roosters this round. Go Manly.

 

[anthonyb1965]

The ole troll and his circle J's return with stunning revelations that our forwards are "weak as piss"!

I am sure Jake (56 tackles) and Haumole (114 rm and 55 pcm - equal best of field pcm) would argue that point. In addition, Marty (111 rm) and Toff (102rm) performed ok and certainly was not "weak as piss".

 

[Merdy33]

Firstly, the Panthers’ line speed is incredible. Just ridiculous. So to combat that you need your dummy half to be putting your forwards on the front foot. I like Croker, but he isn’t doing that. He rarely runs, and doesn’t engage the markers, so they are free to head straight for the player with the ball. Panthers would have beaten anyone on Thursday.
As for some of the other teams’ packs and players that are being talked up here, what a crock. They are the same players and packs that have either missed, or struggled to make the finals in the last few years.
We can do better, and will, and I refuse to call any NRL player “weak as piss”. Unless they commit a weak as piss act of course. I think some of our fans need to show the same resilience we expect of the players.

 

[47MVEagle]

Interesting reassessing our performance on Thursday night in light of the efforts of Souths, Roosters & Storm this round.

How would any of the other teams who have played so far this round have fared against Penrith on Thursday night?

 

[Kaufusi's Elbow]

I thought we played ok. I dont think it is time to panic just yet. We lost, sure ... but Penno were on an unstoppable tear, we weren't gonna win that one.