The Kieran Forum

[tookey]

Foran won't be at Manly in 2016 and is just ensuring that his next club pays top dollars for his services
He also knows that our season is as good as gone when he announces that he is leaving as it will have huge ramifications for the club

 

[Ange]

I think Foran made up his mind and signed elsewhere MONTHS ago. The waiting game he is playing is more about perception than anything else. He wants Manly fans & the club to THINK he ummed and arred for months, so he is tolerated playing for us all season.

The deals already been done. Plain and simple in my books.

Can't wait for the articles published by his media people about how hard the decision was and all that. hahahaha, yeah, right Kieran. I'm sure your just distraught about the deal you've signed.

Also, his procrastination could be costing us other players.

 

[Ange]

& you know this to be a fact or just your humble opinion?

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

I think he wants to move to an area where cafes have a little more privacy.

 

[Andrew..]

If Kieran has already signed elsewhere what would be stopping DCE from committing....it couldn't be money.

 

[Ryan]

& you know this to be a fact or just your humble opinion?

Opinion, and it pisses me off because all I want is a team of passionate players who love and commit to their club and fans.

Call it old fashioned if you like.

Guys like Steve Menzies, Nathan Hindmarsh or that ilk are my examples, but I remember the passion Travis Burns had as an example of a 2nd tier player who just loved throwing on the jersey, and I heard he was bitterly disappointed when not offered another contract.

Like I say, I remember sitting in the pouring rain at night, with my 7 month pregnant missus watching the cowboys vs. The eagles at brooky in front of 4000 odd people. The passion those players had for our club back then was outstanding. Ok, they lacked the skill these kids have in natural talent, but the passion was there.

They lapped it up with the fans afterwards. Good times !!!

If loving that environment makes me negative, or attaches a perceived agenda, then guilty as charged.

THATS why I dislike the current state of affairs with the Chocs, Haslers, Matais, Forans...a club is supposed to be a community driving for a collective goal. I'm not seeing a collective anything is all. It sucks too, coz the game promises so much.

Jeez, even Mark from Brissy seems a little disillusioned after all these years of supporting the team. That speaks miles in my opinion.

Applogies for spelling etc..on the phone 🙂

 

[Haz88]

Cant be about the money for either, the deals they are getting offered are big and all very similar (I am just going off manly's offer and those being reported).

If they leave money wont be the reason, it will be more to it than that so the excuse of the offer was to good to refuse wont fly with me. Because the offer you have been given to stay with your mates in a great area is pretty good also!

And as I was chatting to friends about, when you are already on big money and your talking say $100k each year perhaps, it isn't enough IMO to make you relocate from a place you love, with the team you have won premierships with etc. Its a different story when your on alot less getting offered $100-$200k more but the above has to count for something.

I don't want to jump the gun but I honestly don't know what way this is going to pan out for both of them. My initial feeling was Foran would go and DCE would commit long term and this was another factor in him getting the C next to his name in the 9's, just felt like something hasn't been right with Foran and soon as Choc had left DCE would feel comfortable again with his mates.

I also don't know which way to take the reason why a contract hasn't been signed either here or elsewhere yet OR why we just have not been told by the club.

The more I think about it the more I go into a spin trying to figure it out so I guess its just a wait and see and realistically nobody knows anything at this stage

 

[winnyason]

My major concern is the stalling and downright selfishness.
If they do not want to be here then sign let us rebuild. Both sezer and maloney remain unsigned.
Sezer best years are infront of him they are a option. I want players who want to be here.

 

[Chip and Chase]

If Kieran has already signed elsewhere what would be stopping DCE from committing....it couldn't be money.

The fact that Foran hasn't admitted he has signed elsewhere. They are playing chicken with each other, knowing full well if one leaves the other can up the ante considerably.

If Foran has signed elsewhere and doesn't fess up then it's poor form in my book as it hampers negotiations with others (DCE mainly). However he doesn't strike me as that type of guy, I think he is still genuinely deciding what to do. He might be leaning elsewhere but we are still in with a chance I reckon

 

[The Royal Soup]

I'm pretty confident both will sign and it will be announced before round 1, and that is why they seem so sheepish when asked. They would have been told by the club not to announce or let on until the official word

Toovey also saying he is quietly confident is a sign of this as well

 

[mjb136]

The longer it goes on the more I think both will sign with Manly.

Both of them are just f****** with these media morons.

 

[MightyEagles]

If Foran or DCE have signed elsewhere then why would the club (coach, CEO, captain) be still talking so positively about resigning. It can't be for the good of the club. If it's a done deal then the club should make an announcement. Just say sorry so and so has signed elsewhere and we will now concentrate on signing the other. The club have nothing to gain by letting this drag on. Having said that if I was one of the two halves I wouldn't be rushing a decision just to appease the supporters. As much as I want them both to sign it is what it is and they will decide in due course. If they leave no doubt our supporters will give it to them and if they stay they will be loved for years to come.

 

[Fibro Eagle]

The Aura of speculation ,opinions divided , could it just be the managers saying to the players just wait just wait ,i can get you this, i might get you that, just wait give me time i got a meeting yeah i know its dragging out but we might just get a little more just be patient i can do this i can i think i can .

 

[Snake]

I've said it before and i'll say it again; those bagging Foran are walking down a dangerous path if he re-signs. It's absurd to be criticising the guy just because you want piece of mind regarding his signature. He is well within his rights to consider his future just the same as you or I would if multiple job opportunities (that all pay well) came up at your workplace. Once upon a time there was an anti tampering dead line so Foran and DCE would have to wait until June 30 before they could receive even a preliminary offer from another club...I would hate to see the reactions of some on this forum if that was still in place...people would be hanging from the rafters.

I want them to sign as much as the next person, but patience is a virtue and I implore you to refrain from bagging a player still contracted to the club for the forthcoming season! 🙂

 

[master blaster]

well if Foran is as good as gone,then thats good enough for me,I,ll move on,because all these people with the inside info wouldnt be wrong surely not,no way

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

I want them to sign as much as the next person, but patience is a virtue and I implore you to refrain from bagging a player still contracted to the club for the forthcoming season! 🙂

Bagging the crap out of them is one way of working out if they really want to be here. We don't want players who are upset just because we (the fans) hate them.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

My major concern is the stalling and downright selfishness.
If they do not want to be here then sign let us rebuild. Both sezer and maloney remain unsigned.
Sezer best years are infront of him they are a option. I want players who want to be here.

Sezer and Maloney are so passionate about Manly they'd probably play for peanuts.
(unless they don't want to be here, in which case we'd have to offer them market rates)

 

[panash]

At the moment he loves the attention , sometimes it gets to the heads and i think this is one case of it. ( im a wanted player everywhere , im the best ...blah blah )

i dont think he will be at the club 2016... hopefully DCE doesnt go as well..

i do so hope im wrong , but i have the opposite feeling.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

If he's going then go, if he's staying then stay, but whichever just let us know before kick off on Round 1.

If this goes on all year it will get into their heads and we may as well forget 2015.

It's simple really, just decide!!

 

[EagleFlys]

6.6 mil reportedly offered - no denials by mswe, no agreement.

If they are holding out for more ? ????? do we play with u20's players.