The Kieran Forum

[Eric Galt]

Not so bad if he goes to the Eels. As long as he doesn't go to the Dogs.

 

[Eagleheart]

Honestly I am sick of this ****.............!! Forme pea heart can rack off now for all I care, he has played our club for a fool yet again and as a passionate Manly fan this **** does not fly with me at all.

The fans honestly deserve better than this and he could not care less, it is all about the money for pea heart.

Our season is in dire straits and this **** is going on...........please wtf Manly management what a joke. Control the players and not the other way around............! Stop making Tooves the escape goat for your petty agendas and give him the support he deserves and stop backing the sook senior faction and back a united Manly. So Tooves can have full control to get the boys in line so we can try and get some wins to get us off the bottom of the ladder....! C'mon it is the Mighty Many Sea Eagles we are talking about here, we have a reputation to up hold....!.

Just so sick of this rubbish, Forme and the worms are a joke, honestly what other club would let this **** happen???

 

[PONTIAN SEA EAGLE]

At least foran looks dangerous with the ball.Dce plays like his confused.Why doesn't he occasionally just run straight.

 

[NYEagle]

I think DCE had the flu - he was clearly hampered.
Foran played ok but made crucial errors, and from reading his eyes, he ain't staying at Manly.

 

[Mal Cochrane]

kudos to Weedler. He has brought up the issue of Arthur not raising the issue with Keiran until after the deadline. Arthur reckons he didn't find out until after the deadline, but that's not what was reported earlier regarding Anderson, Arthur and Sharpe knowing about it and making a decision to wait

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

from reading his eyes, he ain't staying at Manly.

I'm pretty sure that method was discredited quite some time ago, you'll be deceived by the eyes. Clinical studies show, if you want to know if he loves you so, it's in his kiss.

That's where it is.

 

[Budgie]

I'm pretty sure that method was discredited quite some time ago, you'll be deceived by the eyes. Clinical studies show, if you want to know if he loves you so, it's in his kiss.

That's where it is.

Oh yeah!

 

[Captain Moondog]

Zorba just mentioned he hopes Kieran stays with us but if not said Foz doesn't deserve what Parra did to him and hopes he would go elsewhere.

Another planet would be good..

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

What a balls up this situation, and this year is.

I can only hope that by 2016 all this **** is well and truly over and we can have a team that puts in week in week out.

A top 8 team I can only dream for, but at least a team that isn't destined for 16th before a tackle is made .

 

[KOMORI]

I dunno - good or bad... Only thing to say is whatever...

When Daly was teetering back and forth, I had the Daly Cherrygraph thread open in a separate window and refreshed it every five bloody minutes (it seemed!) hoping for positive news, interesting news, bad news.... ANY NEWS!!!

I hardly bother with the Kieren Forum. Just a quick look occasionally and I won't go back pages to see where the last post was that I missed and read from there.

I guess I'm trying to say that I don't care as much about Kieren staying or going. If he stays as well as Daly, we are going to have roughly 25-30% of our cap invested in just two players. When you look at how badly we've suffered from injuries and a lack of depth this season, you understand that this sort of season could be common over the next few years. It's a worry.

 

[Snake]

At least foran looks dangerous with the ball.Dce plays like his confused.Why doesn't he occasionally just run straight.

Yeah, he has been doing a lot of crabbing this season. In fact, that's all he did in Origin 2. I remember it happened a number of times when we played Penrith at Pepper Stadium. He has a had a few shockers this season and seems to have no real method or structure to his play other than hitting a back rower who is running into a hole on the right edge.

I think behind a decent pack he would be much more potent at club level, but I don't think he is going to dominate the rep scene like many believe. He just doesn't guide the team around like the Cronk's, Thurston's and Lockyer's. It's ad lib a lot of the time and during big matches, you need a half that will do all the 1% well. I think Foran is a safer bet than DCE.

 

[simon64]

When Daly was teetering back and forth, I had the Daly Cherrygraph thread open in a separate window and refreshed it every five bloody minutes (it seemed!) hoping for positive news, interesting news, bad news.... ANY NEWS!!!

I hardly bother with the Kieren Forum. Just a quick look occasionally and I won't go back pages to see where the last post was that I missed and read from there.

I guess I'm trying to say that I don't care as much about Kieren staying or going. If he stays as well as Daly, we are going to have roughly 25-30% of our cap invested in just two players. When you look at how badly we've suffered from injuries and a lack of depth this season, you understand that this sort of season could be common over the next few years. It's a worry.

North Queensland showed last night what happens when your team is unbalanced.
JT basically runs that team. If he had played last night, there's no way the Cowgirls would have been run down.

 

[Killer03]

After reading gus goulds column this morning I wonder if the panthers are making a big play for him. The panthers need a quality half (no offence to Wallace and Soward who have done quite a good job) and it appears a fairly stable place.

 

[manlyfan76]

Yeah, he has been doing a lot of crabbing this season. In fact, that's all he did in Origin 2. I remember it happened a number of times when we played Penrith at Pepper Stadium. He has a had a few shockers this season and seems to have no real method or structure to his play other than hitting a back rower who is running into a hole on the right edge.

I think behind a decent pack he would be much more potent at club level, but I don't think he is going to dominate the rep scene like many believe. He just doesn't guide the team around like the Cronk's, Thurston's and Lockyer's. It's ad lib a lot of the time and during big matches, you need a half that will do all the 1% well. I think Foran is a safer bet than DCE.

Id never bet on foreskin his head and heart bias his decisions and thoughts.

 

[Daddycool]

The dilemma for him is, he wants to play under Arthur but doesn't want to have anything to do with Parramatta now. When he made his decision to go to the Eels, they looked as though they were on the way up. However, they've gotten worse and Arthur is no sure thing to be there in 18 months. Also the money on offer is too much to dismiss but the Eels are the only Sydney club that can pay it. The fact that Arthur is part of the reason why he doesn't have options in that regard, just further muddies the water.

It wouldn't be the best thing for us long term but if his management are smart, they'll negotiate a 1 year extension to his current deal here. That buys him another 6-9 months when he can go back on the open market and probably get more $$$. If it did happen, we could use it to our advantage by giving some of our younger players time to develop. I hope that doesn't though, as he did quit on us and we need to move on.

So what does he do? He might have to just suck it up and sign on with the Eels. That way he gets both Arthur and the money. Players don't really care where they play these days anyway. He'll probably regret it at the end of his career but with his chronic back injury, $1.2 million for 4 years is a gift.

 

[Ryan]

I think we should take advantage of the June 30 rule, and ship Foran off today to The Eels for Lussick. We lose a player that will do anything not to be here. We gain a local junior who wants to come home.

Heck, Manly should continue to pay Foran this year to make it happen.

That extra forward THEN surely pressures Toovey to drop Hasson. With Lawrence coming back, and Lyon due (who can play 5/8 and kick goals), we'd look much more balanced - even in the culture status.

Also lately I've noticed Foran taking more ball control throughout games. This is leading us to loss after loss. Change needs to occur:

And Tooves, FMD put Jayden Hodges on the bench

01. Brett Stewart
02. Jorge Taufua
03. Steve Matai
04. Peta Hiku
05. Tom Trbojevic
06. Jamie Lyon
07. Daly Cherry-Evans
08. Darcy Lussick
09. Matt Ballin
10. Brenton Lawrence
11. Feleti Meteo
12. Tom Symonds
13. Blake Leary

14. Jayden Hodges
15. Josh Starling
16. Jake Trbojevic
17. Dunamis Lui

Time for Hasson, Mason, Burgess to spend time in reggies. Also, I'd think hard over Sao in for Starling.

 

[Ralphie]

I think we should take advantage of the June 30 rule, and ship Foran off today to The Eels for Lussick. We lose a player that will do anything not to be here. We gain a local junior who wants to come home.

Heck, Manly should continue to pay Foran this year to make it happen.

That extra forward THEN surely pressures Toovey to drop Hasson. With Lawrence coming back, and Lyon due (who can play 5/8 and kick goals), we'd look much more balanced - even in the culture status.

Also lately I've noticed Foran taking more ball control throughout games. This is leading us to loss after loss. Change needs to occur:

And Tooves, FMD put Jayden Hodges on the bench

01. Brett Stewart
02. Jorge Taufua
03. Steve Matai
04. Peta Hiku
05. Tom Trbojevic
06. Jamie Lyon
07. Daly Cherry-Evans
08. Darcy Lussick
09. Matt Ballin
10. Brenton Lawrence
11. Feleti Meteo
12. Tom Symonds
13. Blake Leary

14. Jayden Hodges
15. Josh Starling
16. Jake Trbojevic
17. Dunamis Lui

Time for Hasson, Mason, Burgess to spend time in reggies. Also, I'd think hard over Sao in for Starling.

Agree, but I would throw young Demetriou in for a game or two in preparation for more game time next year. That kid is a highly motivated beast and whilst not physically ready for week in week out 1st grade would be great as an impact player.

 

[manlyfan76]

I think we should take advantage of the June 30 rule, and ship Foran off today to The Eels for Lussick. We lose a player that will do anything not to be here. We gain a local junior who wants to come home.

Heck, Manly should continue to pay Foran this year to make it happen.

That extra forward THEN surely pressures Toovey to drop Hasson. With Lawrence coming back, and Lyon due (who can play 5/8 and kick goals), we'd look much more balanced - even in the culture status.

Also lately I've noticed Foran taking more ball control throughout games. This is leading us to loss after loss. Change needs to occur:

And Tooves, FMD put Jayden Hodges on the bench

01. Brett Stewart
02. Jorge Taufua
03. Steve Matai
04. Peta Hiku
05. Tom Trbojevic
06. Jamie Lyon
07. Daly Cherry-Evans
08. Darcy Lussick
09. Matt Ballin
10. Brenton Lawrence
11. Feleti Meteo
12. Tom Symonds
13. Blake Leary

14. Jayden Hodges
15. Josh Starling
16. Jake Trbojevic
17. Dunamis Lui

Time for Hasson, Mason, Burgess to spend time in reggies. Also, I'd think hard over Sao in for Starling.

Turbo to start over BJ who will have played f all in 9 months and will need to be bought back slowly to regain fitness.

 

[Ryan]

Turbo to start over BJ who will have played f all in 9 months and will need to be bought back slowly to regain fitness.

Good point. Plus (I forget who said he shouldn't be a starter) I think Jake relishes the starting role. Jake is a true highlight for mine this year. Yup, your right - Starling / Lawrence off the bench while they gain match fitness - getting ready for an all in attack next season !!

 

[Ralphie]

Good point. Plus (I forget who said he shouldn't be a starter) I think Jake relishes the starting role. Jake is a true highlight for mine this year. Yup, your right - Starling / Lawrence off the bench while they gain match fitness - getting ready for an all in attack next season !!

It was me, I don't think he is best used as a starter. Yes he relishes it, but we need mongrel hard heads in the first 20 to soften the opposition up and for mine that should be Lussick and Myles. Bring Jake on after that and he will tear them a new one.