DCE 350

[HK_Eagle]

Spot on, but NRL360 spin it as a “toxic environment” for poor DCE.

Reid had the decency last night to call out DCE for creating it himself. Crawley tonight on NRL360 crawled right up somebody’s a$$ to put the blame on Seibs.

 

[Hertera]

Reid had the decency last night to call out DCE for creating it himself.

Read was correct but he is Seibold's best mate who is running an agenda to protect Seibold. Dig deeper Read pushed for Seibold to get the job and deflects any criticism of him. Sad so many agendas in the media.

 

[Fibro Eagle]

Never been one of my favourite players however
There was a time when Manly wouldn’t win a game without him , but now Manly would win a game without him . It will be debatable if he leaves a legacy at this club with what has transpired of late for a one club player of 350 games
There were times of cheering for him for some of the plays he has rescued the games from defeats but unfortunately not of late
He will be looked at as great player , playing in Grand finals ,QLD captain, Australian representative
A lot of the drama he has created himself and that will be what he will be remembered for unfortunate for a player that has achieved a lot in the game

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

Never been one of my favourite players however
There was a time when Manly wouldn’t win a game without him , but now Manly would win a game without him . It will be debatable if he leaves a legacy at this club with what has transpired of late for a one club player of 350 games
There were times of cheering for him for some of the plays he has rescued the games from defeats but unfortunately not of late
He will be looked at as great player , playing in Grand finals ,QLD captain, Australian representative
A lot of the drama he has created himself and that will be what he will be remembered for unfortunate for a player that has achieved a lot in the game

How to **** on your 15 year legacy in three easy steps !

He’s mastered it.

 

[Brookie1973]

Never been one of my favourite players however
There was a time when Manly wouldn’t win a game without him , but now Manly would win a game without him . It will be debatable if he leaves a legacy at this club with what has transpired of late for a one club player of 350 games
There were times of cheering for him for some of the plays he has rescued the games from defeats but unfortunately not of late
He will be looked at as great player , playing in Grand finals ,QLD captain, Australian representative
A lot of the drama he has created himself and that will be what he will be remembered for unfortunate for a player that has achieved a lot in the game

Granted, he won us quite a few games, but from memory, most of those were with field goals. A wins a win, but there were also quite a few games we lost for the lack of a game managing halfback.

 

[HK_Eagle]

Read was correct but he is Seibold's best mate who is running an agenda to protect Seibold. Dig deeper Read pushed for Seibold to get the job and deflects any criticism of him. Sad so many agendas in the media.

Hang on, let me just get this clear… you believe, DCE was not responsible for creating a toxic environment within the club and team by handling it the way he did (regardless of his reasons or motivations)?

 

[Hertera]

Hang on, let me just get this clear… you believe, DCE was not responsible for creating a toxic environment within the club and team by handling it the way he did (regardless of his reasons or motivations)?

Read was correct to call out DCE for creating it himself

 

[bringbackbeaver]

I don’t understand what there is to really celebrate. Yep, playing 350 games is huge. Fine. But the way he’s leaving us is the biggest FU to everyone who supported him over the last 15yrs. For him, it’s a business. For us, it’s much more .
If he had half the decency of a Jurbo im sure everyone would feel different

Finally the end to a 15 yr drama

 

[XV-1]

I have a different slightly different view.

DCE vented his frustration with inept coach Seibold to Mestrov. As did the Turbo brothers and " other " senior players last year.

After this player led discussion, Mestrov and Penn gave Seibold a 2 year extension and basically said, fuuck u, we know best.
Why?
How many other clubs were trying to sign Seibold? ZERO.

DCE then asked for a release from his contract as he doesn't want to be coached by Spoonbold as he wants to win a comp.
Release rejected.

No offer at any stage for 2026 until DCE foolishly goes on Channel 9 to announce he is leaving Manly. Mestrov then rings NRL360 with a Clayton's 2 year offer to save face, although they knew DCE would not take it.

Yes, it would have been a lot better to have made the announcement in club colours with Mestrov & Seibold - however the relationship with Mestrov seems to be toxic at best so it may have not been an option - in DCE'S mind at least.

DCE probably naively that telling the world way in advance would allow Manly to get another half - which we have.
However the fallout after that he would have never anticipated.

The rest is history.

Amazingly Mestrov has seemingly gone to ground and missed a lot of valid criticism of his entire management of this sorry mess.

 

[Tragic Eagle]

I won’t be going to this game.

 

[Buck]

The question to ponder is; Does his years of service to the club offset the damage he has done with the way he has handled his departure? Now there's a conundrum!

 

[HK_Eagle]

I have a different slightly different view.

DCE vented his frustration with inept coach Seibold to Mestrov. As did the Turbo brothers and " other " senior players last year.

After this player led discussion, Mestrov and Penn gave Seibold a 2 year extension and basically said, fuuck u, we know best.
Why?
How many other clubs were trying to sign Seibold? ZERO.

DCE then asked for a release from his contract as he doesn't want to be coached by Spoonbold as he wants to win a comp.
Release rejected.

No offer at any stage for 2026 until DCE foolishly goes on Channel 9 to announce he is leaving Manly. Mestrov then rings NRL360 with a Clayton's 2 year offer to save face, although they knew DCE would not take it.

Yes, it would have been a lot better to have made the announcement in club colours with Mestrov & Seibold - however the relationship with Mestrov seems to be toxic at best so it may have not been an option - in DCE'S mind at least.

DCE probably naively that telling the world way in advance would allow Manly to get another half - which we have.
However the fallout after that he would have never anticipated.

The rest is history.

Amazingly Mestrov has seemingly gone to ground and missed a lot of valid criticism of his entire management of this sorry mess.

Probably a reasonable story in there, though I would personally tweak it to drop some of the subtle (or not so subtle) anti-Seib/anti-Mestrov rhetoric.

Quite possibly, DCE and some other senior players came forward to express their concerns around the coaching. Now let’s say Penn, Seibs (if he was there for that meeting), and any other possible powerbrokers listened to the concerns. Then let’s assume they balanced those concerns against the plan Seibs was bringing to the club and what he is trying to build towards, and decided the best course of action was to continue forward. Reasonable.

Part of the problem may well be how that meeting was handled and communication between both parties, and that part we will never know (barring some book release by one of the inside parties with their own perspective/slant). What we do know is the appalling way DCE went about responding to the decision(s) from that meeting. The rest is just conjecture and projection for us on the outside.

 

[Eagle 1]

Been thinking about this and I can see DCE to rorters next year then both him and Garrick to the bears in 27 on big money deals. They are good mates and i reckon there'll be some juicy contracts on offer.

You'll find a lot of players from every club will just be going for the 1 year deal with the Bears in mind in 27. Or maybe just a bit further to 28 with PNG, ìf your game enough.

 

[47MVEagle]

I have a different slightly different view.

DCE vented his frustration with inept coach Seibold to Mestrov. As did the Turbo brothers and " other " senior players last year.

After this player led discussion, Mestrov and Penn gave Seibold a 2 year extension and basically said, fuuck u, we know best.
Why?
How many other clubs were trying to sign Seibold? ZERO.

DCE then asked for a release from his contract as he doesn't want to be coached by Spoonbold as he wants to win a comp.
Release rejected.

No offer at any stage for 2026 until DCE foolishly goes on Channel 9 to announce he is leaving Manly. Mestrov then rings NRL360 with a Clayton's 2 year offer to save face, although they knew DCE would not take it.

Yes, it would have been a lot better to have made the announcement in club colours with Mestrov & Seibold - however the relationship with Mestrov seems to be toxic at best so it may have not been an option - in DCE'S mind at least.

DCE probably naively that telling the world way in advance would allow Manly to get another half - which we have.
However the fallout after that he would have never anticipated.

The rest is history.

Amazingly Mestrov has seemingly gone to ground and missed a lot of valid criticism of his entire management of this sorry mess.

When did DCE request an early release?

When did the club extend Seibold?

That should put paid to your theory.

 

[XV-1]

When did DCE request an early release?

When did the club extend Seibold?

That should put paid to your theory.

There is a whole thread on this if you want to read it.

Post in thread 'The Rumour that we hear everywhere'

Today at 11:56 AM

Could be, but as you know highly talented representative players don’t need as much coaching as the not so experienced players.

For me the senior players have let themselves and the club down this season with their on field form and efforts, look at the two most highly paid players defensive efforts over the last month.

They’re the defensive efforts you get when you no longer want to be there and/or are busted.

• LeonardCohen