The 'General Off-Topic Discussion, Banter, Arguments & Hopefully Some Mediation' Thread

[Mark from Brisbane]

Good work Mighty. That's sure to get the natives excited.

Goody ,I’ll be back on the 3rd of December, and our #nextweek thread will still be going!!

 

[Jatz Crackers]

Good work Mighty. That's sure to get the natives excited.

Goody ,I’ll be back on the 3rd of December, and our #nextweek thread will still be going!!

Then it is our collective responsibility to keep em primed.

 

[Jigzkiller]

How do you know the club is sitting on its hands?
How do you know their pinning their hopes on discards?
So much insider knowledge.

No it's an opinion no more valid than yours. Yep discards Croker and Gronk are exactly that. Considering the cap if our cap is tight after no Matai no Stewart Myles sent packing BJ gone than it has been grossly mismanaged. How do I know they weren't in the market 2 or 4 months ago? Well I hope they weren't because if they were so far they have netted Croker and Gronk hardly a great net.

I'd never claim to have such knowledge

I never claimed inside info it's just an opinion which is what forums are for surely?

 

[Jigzkiller]

Your entire rant on recruitment is based on the fact the club has finished and has missed out on everyone they were chasing

I would hardly call it a rant but anyway we just have different opinions it's all good.

 

[Deleted member 24974]

The mole said on Twitter yesterday that the Thompson deal may not go ahead now because Manly is chasing bigger fish...

Angus Crichton Looks good in Manly colours.

 

[eaglebuzz]

I'd be happy with Hastings at 5/8 if we got Crichton

 

[Mitch]

Angus Crichton Looks good in Manly colours.

Forget Crichton fellas, according to tomorrow’s Telegraph if Pearce goes the Roosters will aim to recruit Crichton with the money they save on him.

Laughable.

 

[Deleted member 24974]

Forget Crichton fellas, according to tomorrow’s Telegraph if Pearce goes the Roosters will aim to recruit Crichton with the money they save on him.

Laughable.

Well if the Rooster have more money left in there salary cap, Manly have to go back to Thompson. We need to be careful though, if Manly buy any player I’m sure the NRL will raid Brookvale looking for any salary cap breaches.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

Forget Crichton fellas, according to tomorrow’s Telegraph if Pearce goes the Roosters will aim to recruit Crichton with the money they save on him.

Laughable.

Absolute circus!

 

[Tragic Eagle]

The salary cap is a farce and embarrassing. Even players during interviews are expressing surprise at how clubs are fitting in so many stars.The NRL must rate the players minimum value for the purposes of the salary cap just as Schubert did with Foloau when Parra wanted to sign him. Then the club must be obliged to disclose all of the TPA payments the player is to receive to the NRL before the contract is registered. There should in my view be a cap on TPAs. At the moment the big boys are making a mockery of the objective of the Cap whilst the NRL is persecuting us. You don’t have to be ironstone to figure that out.

 

[Blowfly]

The salary cap is a farce and embarrassing. Even players during interviews are expressing surprise at how clubs are fitting in so many stars.The NRL must rate the players minimum value for the purposes of the salary cap just as Schubert did with Foloau when Parra wanted to sign him. Then the club must be obliged to disclose all of the TPA payments the player is to receive to the NRL before the contract is registered. There should in my view be a cap on TPAs. At the moment the big boys are making a mockery of the objective of the Cap whilst the NRL is persecuting us. You don’t have to be ironstone to figure that out.

The NRL also stepped in an blocked an offer Manly made to Glenn Stewart by saying he was valued higher.

Seems they only step in against certain clubs! The game is a joke & the agenda-driven head office is killing it!

 

[Ryan]

I personally enjoyed league because of legends like Beaver. It was about community, club, demographic.

Now, it's all about money, mercenary players, and business.

The passion has gone. I feel this is why television ratings and crowd numbers are so down.

And the players need to be held accountable in all of that. They are demanding all this extra cash from The NRL, while their product has a regressing customer base.

And I think it comes down to the lack of balance. Some clubs with their ridiculous 3rd party deals. We would have never been in the mix in REALITY for James Roberts with The Broncos, because they could have afforded to pay whatever they want to win him in the end.

This is why our club succeeds mainly when players agree to get paid unders to stay together, or our 2nd tier players play above their actual quality.

Excitements gone. Even the coaching staff is like this now, as well.

 

[mave]

It is quite simple.....Every single payment to payers, including wages and TPA's need to be paid by the NRL directly to the player.

Any monies, goods, services, etc not granted via the NRL are deemed illegal and therefore punishable.
Suppliers pay the NRL the agreed amount and the NRL pays the player.

 

[Supernintendo Chalmers]

points cap. eliminate tpas by making them all legal - like now clubs get a grant of x amount to spend from the nrl. when spent in line with the guidelines properly, it allows you to field a squad worth xxx amount of 'points', roosters can stack their roster all they want with dodgy cash, but they can only field a team worth xxx amount of points in a game. Who'd want to go there if you aren't getting regular game time because they have too many stars?
No-one outside the NRL and Club knows a players negotiated salary, but everyone knows their point value, it goes next to their name on the team list. fans see the total of the named team and know if the squad is well managed or not.
Players points get updated each off season by a special independent team going off set criteria. discounts for promoting juniors / long term players, penalties on players breaking contracts, and those who get in the ****, instead of their salary going down with a one way ticket to bondi, their points value goes up, making them less attractive and more of a risk to sign.
During the off season players can appeal and present a case if they think their point value is incorrect.
Trades / Drafting can only happen in November (major period) anyone wishing to go in a draft or a trade has to lodge the week after the GF and they get their points value re-assessed first. Also have a week long trade window during a stand alone origin round (minor period) for clubs to tweak roster if any injuries etc.

 

[Class of 96]

Goody ,I’ll be back on the 3rd of December, and our #nextweek thread will still be going!!

3 things certain in life Mark...death, taxes and #nextweek

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

Who’s next?

Pearce, staying with the Rorters who are also adding Crichton!

And possibly Klemmer, well maybe not but I bet the first paragraph is close!

 

[mickqld]

I know the big signing. He's a current test player. Yes folks get excited.
JAMES HASSON yaaaaaaaayyy

 

[Mr Manly 007]

Winterstein needs to improve attack and defence : but it always hard when he turns 32 at the end of 2018.

 

[nightster]

I'm thinking we have around 9 second rowers at the club... maybe more

 

[robbiea]

I'm thinking we have around 9 second rowers at the club... maybe more

But is there a dead set gun ?