Spot on mate - the structures did seem very different in 2021. But I think you're right. If you have potentially the leagues best overall player, you build your team and strategies around them, and it almost felt like we moved as a wave, everything on our toes as opposed to our heels, and all as a well oiled machine. Honestly, yep - the most exciting team of 2021 (and we were rewarded with the most free to air games out of that too this season).

On that point, from our chat in PM, I'm also happy to get behind Des now, and whoever is here at present. There's no point death riding them any longer - that's been done to death (so to speak), it's time to move forward. Complaining isn't going to change anything, so I may as well get on board now.

The positives as I see them are obviously Tom returning (main point) - his presence lifts the entire squad. Unlike many, I bloody LOVE everything about Schuster (I just hope all the criticism doesn't have him playing within himself, because one of his biggest strengths, is X-factor and eyes up footy). We need to fit Kaeo Weekes into that backline. I'm almost as excited about him as I am about Schuster.

This isn't me doing a 180. It's just as you pointed out, what's the point of supporting a team if you're not getting enjoyment from it (that's unhealthy) - and I DO love this team. So mate, point well taken, received and made.

I hope people don't take this as me being bipolar (although there may be some truth to that !!), but me realizing I need to get the enjoyment and fighting spirit back.
Thank God! Finally a positive post!

Just sayin’
 
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Steady on mate. if you keep replying like that I will have to divorce my second wife and hunt you down and propose... @:D

But in all seriousness I can't wait for the shoe to emerge in his favourite position. Will take some time but when Turbos in and everyone is in their place there's a lot of smarts in the side so won't take long to gel.

Weeks deserves more game time in 23. I wonder if there's is a position on the bench to replace walker there for him?

2022 was a huge disappointment butvits finished now. Bring on 2023 and this side I say.

1.turbo
2.saab
3.tippy two shoes
4.koula
5.garrick
6. Shoe
7.dce
8.paseka
9. Xxxxxxxxx
10. Aleo vera
11. Gauc
12. Tualingi
13. Jake

14.keppie
15.toff sipps
16.lawman
17. Bully or weeks

We could do with a hard nut front row signing and a hooker.

That's a bloody good team - speed to burn in that backline. The best part for me is there's plenty of competition for spots, particularly for that 3 centre position (Parker, Harper, Tuipulotu & my choice - Weekes in possibly a Jamie Lyon lite type situation).

One or two hard heads exactly like you say, starting with someone like Nathan Brown from the Eels would be immense. Best part of that, he'll lift when playing Arthur and The Eels, and that alone would be worth the price of admission ! hahaha.

I do hope Lawton shares the hooking role with Croker as well, which could add to the diversity in our play. I'd start Lawton, (then bring on Mr consistency in the middle 40) - You know I love a YART, but something like:

01. Tom Trbojevic
02. Jason Saab
03. Tolu Koula
04. Kaeo Weekes
05. Reuben Garrick
06. Josh Schuster
07. Daly Cherry-Evans
08. Josh Aloiai
09. Karl Lawton
10. Taniela Paseka
11. Haumole Olakau'atu
12. Nathan Brown
13. Jake Trbojevic

14. Lachlan Croker
15. Sean Keppie
16. Toff Sipley
17. Kelma Tuilagi

That team competes with anyone in my view mate.
 
When Eagles are silent Parrots begin to chatter
That's a bloody good team - speed to burn in that backline. The best part for me is there's plenty of competition for spots, particularly for that 3 centre position (Parker, Harper, Tuipulotu & my choice - Weekes in possibly a Jamie Lyon lite type situation).

One or two hard heads exactly like you say, starting with someone like Nathan Brown from the Eels would be immense. Best part of that, he'll lift when playing Arthur and The Eels, and that alone would be worth the price of admission ! hahaha.

I do hope Lawton shares the hooking role with Croker as well, which could add to the diversity in our play. I'd start Lawton, (then bring on Mr consistency in the middle 40) - You know I love a YART, but something like:

01. Tom Trbojevic
02. Jason Saab
03. Tolu Koula
04. Kaeo Weekes
05. Reuben Garrick
06. Josh Schuster
07. Daly Cherry-Evans
08. Josh Aloiai
09. Karl Lawton
10. Taniela Paseka
11. Haumole Olakau'atu
12. Nathan Brown
13. Jake Trbojevic

14. Lachlan Croker
15. Sean Keppie
16. Toff Sipley
17. Kelma Tuilagi

That team competes with anyone in my view mate.
I'd love Nathan Brown, clearly the Eels don't want him for whatever reason. We need a loose bastard in our pack, even if he misses a week or three through suspension
 
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That's a bloody good team - speed to burn in that backline. The best part for me is there's plenty of competition for spots, particularly for that 3 centre position (Parker, Harper, Tuipulotu & my choice - Weekes in possibly a Jamie Lyon lite type situation).

One or two hard heads exactly like you say, starting with someone like Nathan Brown from the Eels would be immense. Best part of that, he'll lift when playing Arthur and The Eels, and that alone would be worth the price of admission ! hahaha.

I do hope Lawton shares the hooking role with Croker as well, which could add to the diversity in our play. I'd start Lawton, (then bring on Mr consistency in the middle 40) - You know I love a YART, but something like:

01. Tom Trbojevic
02. Jason Saab
03. Tolu Koula
04. Kaeo Weekes
05. Reuben Garrick
06. Josh Schuster
07. Daly Cherry-Evans
08. Josh Aloiai
09. Karl Lawton
10. Taniela Paseka
11. Haumole Olakau'atu
12. Nathan Brown
13. Jake Trbojevic

14. Lachlan Croker
15. Sean Keppie
16. Toff Sipley
17. Kelma Tuilagi

That team competes with anyone in my view mate.

Looking good, @Ryan I also think Nathan Brown could be a good pickup, and if we do get him, I would have him on the bench at 15. Lawton should be given a go at lock. He has good hands, defends well, and isn't scared of contact in the middle. As for the utility spot on the bench, I would give GCKT & JH first shots at securing that spot during pre-season.

01. Tom Trbojevic
02. Jason Saab
03. Tolu Koula
04. Kaeo Weekes
05. Reuben Garrick
06. Josh Schuster
07. Daly Cherry-Evans
08. Josh Aloiai
09. Lachlan Croker
10. Jake Trbojevic
11. Haumole Olakau'atu
12. Kelma Tuilagi
13. Karl Lawton

14. Gordon Chan Kum Tong/Jamie Humphreys
15. Ethan Bullemore/Ben Condon
16. Sean Keppie/Toff Sipley
17. Taniela Paseka
 
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That's a bloody good team - speed to burn in that backline. The best part for me is there's plenty of competition for spots, particularly for that 3 centre position (Parker, Harper, Tuipulotu & my choice - Weekes in possibly a Jamie Lyon lite type situation).

One or two hard heads exactly like you say, starting with someone like Nathan Brown from the Eels would be immense. Best part of that, he'll lift when playing Arthur and The Eels, and that alone would be worth the price of admission ! hahaha.

I do hope Lawton shares the hooking role with Croker as well, which could add to the diversity in our play. I'd start Lawton, (then bring on Mr consistency in the middle 40) - You know I love a YART, but something like:

01. Tom Trbojevic
02. Jason Saab
03. Tolu Koula
04. Kaeo Weekes
05. Reuben Garrick
06. Josh Schuster
07. Daly Cherry-Evans
08. Josh Aloiai
09. Karl Lawton
10. Taniela Paseka
11. Haumole Olakau'atu
12. Nathan Brown
13. Jake Trbojevic

14. Lachlan Croker
15. Sean Keppie
16. Toff Sipley
17. Kelma Tuilagi

That team competes with anyone in my view mate.
Like it but.....we need someone with spark to come in off the bench when the opposition forwards are tiring (which should happen if we've played the first 30 minutes to plan).
 
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Premium Member
That's a bloody good team - speed to burn in that backline. The best part for me is there's plenty of competition for spots, particularly for that 3 centre position (Parker, Harper, Tuipulotu & my choice - Weekes in possibly a Jamie Lyon lite type situation).

One or two hard heads exactly like you say, starting with someone like Nathan Brown from the Eels would be immense. Best part of that, he'll lift when playing Arthur and The Eels, and that alone would be worth the price of admission ! hahaha.

I do hope Lawton shares the hooking role with Croker as well, which could add to the diversity in our play. I'd start Lawton, (then bring on Mr consistency in the middle 40) - You know I love a YART, but something like:

01. Tom Trbojevic
02. Jason Saab
03. Tolu Koula
04. Kaeo Weekes
05. Reuben Garrick
06. Josh Schuster
07. Daly Cherry-Evans
08. Josh Aloiai
09. Karl Lawton
10. Taniela Paseka
11. Haumole Olakau'atu
12. Nathan Brown
13. Jake Trbojevic

14. Lachlan Croker
15. Sean Keppie
16. Toff Sipley
17. Kelma Tuilagi

That team competes with anyone in my view mate.
This may seem like im getting on my Des pony again but I'm trying to be open minded here so give me some rope please.

A big perceived issue with Des is his apparent 'non-use of young players' is it not?

well looking at that side all I see is a lot of youth with a few hard heads.

Saab , Koula , Weeks , Shoe , Paseka , Haumole , Keppie are all pretty young .

Tom , Garrick , Lawman , Croker , Toff , Aloiai and Tuilagi are middle aged in terms of NRL players.

Im looking at that side and liking it a lot. just need 1 or 2 class players if possible.

Imagine if Stabby cat had have been cleared and came back in there at 9....
 
Official NRL commentator of the UK Royal Family
Premium Member
Tbh, I’m a bit disappointed. Merchant of Doom versus Eagle of London was going to be my off season entertainment, and now they reconcile? Before the season has even officially finished? Man, it’s going to be a looooong off season.
Ive given you an optimistic emoji there mate.

As much as it may seem MOD/Ryan and I have hugged and made up TODAY who knows what tomorrow may hold?

Now all I need to do is cosy up to @Woodsie and the threesome will be on....
 
2022 Tipster
Tbh, I’m a bit disappointed. Merchant of Doom versus Eagle of London was going to be my off season entertainment, and now they reconcile? Before the season has even officially finished? Man, it’s going to be a looooong off season.
I agree @Ranga There was no consideration given to their fellow Silvertails, who were relying on this entertainment to continue. We can only hope that there will be a return to normal transmission soon.
 
2022 Tipster
Ive given you an optimistic emoji there mate.

As much as it may seem MOD/Ryan and I have hugged and made up TODAY who knows what tomorrow may hold?

Now all I need to do is cosy up to @Woodsie and the threesome will be on....
That image should not be imagined clearly under any circumstances.
Vomit Puke GIF by The Late Late Show with James Corden

Also my reaction if the Eels win on Sunday........🤢🤮
 
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This may seem like im getting on my Des pony again but I'm trying to be open minded here so give me some rope please.

A big perceived issue with Des is his apparent 'non-use of young players' is it not?

well looking at that side all I see is a lot of youth with a few hard heads.

Saab , Koula , Weeks , Shoe , Paseka , Haumole , Keppie are all pretty young .

Tom , Garrick , Lawman , Croker , Toff , Aloiai and Tuilagi are middle aged in terms of NRL players.

Im looking at that side and liking it a lot. just need 1 or 2 class players if possible.

Imagine if Stabby cat had have been cleared and came back in there at 9....
I like the idea of a youthful, quick backline but aren't we expecting too much from a Saab Koula Tippy/Weekes Schuster combination? I know you only get the experience by playing but throwing those blokes in all at once from the get go seems a stretch. Anyway, I can't see Des doing it so it's probably a moot point.
 
Bencher
This was a weekend of perfection in 2021 ! Enjoy the show ! :rofl: If football was art, this game was the Mona Lisa ! hahaha
how good was that ?.Hopefully with TT and the Schu both fit and healthy we have much to look foward too in 2023 .
On another note Ryan where is the Merchant and what have you done with him ?
 
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Premium Member
I like the idea of a youthful, quick backline but aren't we expecting too much from a Saab Koula Tippy/Weekes Schuster combination? I know you only get the experience by playing but throwing those blokes in all at once from the get go seems a stretch. Anyway, I can't see Des doing it so it's probably a moot point.
Yeah , like to see Weekes in the mix somewhere . Probably some wishful thinking to have Weekes at 6 and Schuster at 13 on present indications but i like at least the idea . Weekes as a centre , not much background there apparently but with his natural ability may not be beyond him at a higher level for Manly . Tippy toes will need a good off season to get his mojo back , really disappointing the way his form dropped off towards the end of the season . Pleased that Vaega is in the main squad , can only get better
 
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Yeah , like to see Weekes in the mix somewhere . Probably some wishful thinking to have Weekes at 6 and Schuster at 13 on present indications but i like at least the idea . Weekes as a centre , not much background there apparently but with his natural ability may not be beyond him at a higher level for Manly . Tippy toes will need a good off season to get his mojo back , really disappointing the way his form dropped off towards the end of the season . Pleased that Vaega is in the main squad , can only get better
I'd like to see more of Weekes in the centre before deciding on where he best fits in. Particularly defensively. I know I'm a bit on my own with this but I would still be starting Parks and Koula (unless there's some unknown star centre purchase we've made) and see how the first few rounds pan out. With Shu trying to find his feet at 5/8, I just think that level of inexperience will put too much pressure on all of them. Ideally they would get some good experience in the Blacktown team to get them ready but we all know that's a whole other massive problem. Time for the brains trust to step up and develop a plan ..... or move on!
 
“ Triggered Boomer”
Premium Member
As I’ve been saying for a very long time , slitting your wrists for what “ might happen “ in 2023 is extremely negative.

For a start we don’t even know the final team make up.

And secondly , if for some strange reason we get a reasonable run with injuries we might just surprise.

Top 4 , almost no chance.

Top 8, some chance.

Next 4 , most likely.

Bottom 5, possible but less likely.

But we do seriously need a few more reasonable forwards OR the ones we have have to mature into match winners in the off season.
 
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Laurie Daley, who is an Aus selector said on BSB on Monday that they had picked 30 players on the weekend and had to cut it to 24 before next Monday. He also said he watched first half of AUS vs PNG and that”DCE was very impressive as you would expect him to against the Kumuls”. Also gave Burton a wrap. Be very surprised if DCE and Burton miss squad based on his comments.
 

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