The Daly Cherrygraph

tookey said:
He is a greedy mercenary and won't accept anything less than what he is currently on Especially with a new Brisbane team going to push up salaries

The media circus has once again been orchestrated by him and his manager
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What evidence do you have to back up such a claim? Or is this just your opinion?
 
Amazing how the knives come out after a loss. Keep on sharpening them. Time will tell if DCE takes a pay cut or not. Either way he is not injured allot like some of our other Stars and some being so called Stars. He is the incumbent Australian Half back and State of origin winning Captain. It might be time to repay the club only time will tell.
 
Bring back the.... Biff? said:
We pay a few players too much

Dce Should be on 800k
Jake Should be on 650k
Marty 800k? Should be on 550k
Afb 850k? Should of been on 600k
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I agree with those figures. But blame the club, they bowled over to the player managers.
I like the stance that Parra has taken on Nathan Brown. Now they’ve got him by the balls and if he wants to stay he needs to stay for less than they offered in the first place.
 
Bring back the.... Biff? said:
We pay a few players too much

Dce Should be on 800k
Jake Should be on 650k
Marty 800k? Should be on 550k
Afb 850k? Should of been on 650k
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If this were the Roosters they’d all be on $200k-$400k and be absolutely happy with it. That’s because they are better at managing the cap.

I’m not sure why, but players seem to stop caring about money when they move to the eastern suburbs. It must be the low house prices and affordable lifestyle.
 
tookey said:
He is a greedy mercenary and won't accept anything less than what he is currently on, Especially with a new Brisbane team going to push up salaries

The media circus has once again been orchestrated by him and his manager
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His media interview yesterday indeed appeared genuine. There was no rhetoric that suggested he was pushing for an extension.

It seems he was concerned by all the external noise that Manly we're shopping him around.

If Manly do extend him, I'm pretty sure it will be done in a manner whereby they can backend part of his current salary.

A win, win situation.
 
Bring back the.... Biff? said:
At the moment top 3 halves
Cleary
Hughes
Sam walker

Dce isnt close to these guys

Only guy to replace him would be Reynolds but the chips wont fall that way and Cherry is Manly and can be better than Reynolds
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if you judge strictly on form then yes

but only fools judge strictly on form

by that token ben hunt was the best halfback in the comp in round 4

on form AND player ability, cleary is heads on top followed by DCE.
Reynolds, Hughes, Moses just behind
Walker on form is probably the best half in the comp but he has played 5 games so to say he is better than a premiership winning origin winning captain and halfback is probably pretty far from the truth.
 
KaZa said:
Reynolds. Need a good goal kicker too. Have some money left over too for a decent centre.

Dont disagree on Jake but if it keeps Tom at the club. Im ok with it.
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Reynolds?

The bloke is 30 and probably has 2 years left in the game

Isn't the level of DCE and DCE will still outlast him in the game despite being older

Reynolds has no history with Manly, DCE is our captain and one club player

Jeez we would be in trouble if Reynolds was our 7. He couldn't give a **** about the club and is leaving for a good paycheck for his family. That will definitely win a title!
 
Mataiforerver said:
Jeez we would be in trouble if Reynolds was our 7. He couldn't give a **** about the club and is leaving for a good paycheck for his family. That will definitely win a title!
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Like DCE was going to do all those years ago before he backflipped and we signed him to an 8 year deal ??

You can't tell me if DCE didn't sign that "lifetime" contract that he wouldn't have explored his options at some point along the way and did what was "right for his family". In fact I'm pretty sure he coined the phrase when trying to justify his actions in turning his back on the Titans. There is very little loyalty in the NRL anymore from anyone
 
Mataiforerver said:
if you judge strictly on form then yes

but only fools judge strictly on form

by that token ben hunt was the best halfback in the comp in round 4

on form AND player ability, cleary is heads on top followed by DCE.
Reynolds, Hughes, Moses just behind
Walker on form is probably the best half in the comp but he has played 5 games so to say he is better than a premiership winning origin winning captain and halfback is probably pretty far from the truth.
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I said at the moment top 3 halves.. people judging on form are fools? Interesting comment... i must be a fool then because dce has been ass for ages. Last year he was terrible and this year the exact same, even with a real 5/8th partnering him. This year dce is in the bottom 4 halfbacks in the game he just sucks at the moment its the truth!

Hughes is twice as good as dce.. last year and this year. Guy has won comps and without Papenhuyzen has really stepped up last few weeks which dce CANNOT DO! Scoring 100 plus and 140 in supercoach the last 2 weeks. His presence on the field is known just like cleary.

Walker 5 games in and already better than the qld captain blah blah blah... this kid will supplant dce as qlds halfback. And imho dce is only there because there is no one else.. they tried hunt and failed so by default he is there. Never excelled in origin bar 1 game where slater told him what to do.. the game without Munster where they lost by 30 proves this theory.

Reynolds much better than dce.. actually has a game plan amd combinations with his outside men. Actually runs the ball and sets up tries. Won a premiership

moses is shyte dont rate him but he's been better than dce

Even ash Taylor has looked better.. if you wanna live in the past then dce is the best HB in the comp but the past is the past and now in the present he sucks!

Sincerely yours

Biff.

Ps without turbo we'd still be bottom 4. Dce has dont very little in our resurgence! Fact!

Now im off to eat ogalo's
 
Mataiforerver said:
Reynolds?

The bloke is 30 and probably has 2 years left in the game

Isn't the level of DCE and DCE will still outlast him in the game despite being older

Reynolds has no history with Manly, DCE is our captain and one club player

Jeez we would be in trouble if Reynolds was our 7. He couldn't give a **** about the club and is leaving for a good paycheck for his family. That will definitely win a title!
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DCE is almost 33. Questioning Reynolds ages is stupid. Sorry.

DCE may out last him but hes ineffective.. besides the odd field goal here or there.. doesnt control the game. Reynolds leaving for one last big paycheck? DCE did that to us with his first! If DCE really 'cares' for the club.. he would take a bit of a paycut to stay and make our side more competitive... like the players before him where DCE benefitted by winning a title in his first season.

Loyalty is dead in this game. Reynolds wont have to do much in our side.. keep us in games with his general kicking game and kick goals. As said previously.. this resurgence in the last few weeks has nothing to do with DCE. To be on the money he is on.. it is just not worth it for us.
 
Mataiforerver said:
if you judge strictly on form then yes

but only fools judge strictly on form

by that token ben hunt was the best halfback in the comp in round 4

on form AND player ability, cleary is heads on top followed by DCE.
Reynolds, Hughes, Moses just behind
Walker on form is probably the best half in the comp but he has played 5 games so to say he is better than a premiership winning origin winning captain and halfback is probably pretty far from the truth.
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DCE is judged as a halfback, As a halfback he contributes not much in the way of a halfback role. while he is more skillful as a player than some of the other halves mentioned his lack of number 7 skills makes him much lower on the list.

while i understand your comment on form or purple patches DCE clearly is not consistent enough in providing attacking opportunities or structures to suggest he is down on form. He just can not produce a gold medal game as a 7 more than a few times a year if at all.

he is exciting to watch when others have dismantled the defence and brings things to the game that many players cant but its not what a number 7 is judged on.

answer this. How many times in a game does DCE run into the line with the ball in 2 hands looking to promote the footy at the risk of being nailed. If the answer is very few he isnt much of a 7 and you this can also account for his longevity

while a half like reynolds isnt that great at those skills he makes up with it as a game manager and his ability to take the ball to the line in 2 hands , leaving himself opened to be drilled to kick. DCe doesnt do this either

we judge croker on his ability as a 9 and not a general dogsbody , which is no different.

show me a team that has a half back that doesnt take the ball to the line to pass , kick or game manage and you will see they are placed on the bottom of the table with us. our luxury is we have a fullback that does that better than the real bad teams

DCE is very skilled but not at being a 7. problem is he is too expensive to buy the players that compliment his lack of skills and seems resistant on trying to learn more skills. Reynolds and DCE with tommy and fainu would be great if we had bucket loads of gold, but we dont
 
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