The Anthony Seibold Grievances MEGA THREAD

[XV-1]

Credit when credit is due. Finally a good game plan from Seibold and effort on effort in defence.

More of this please.

 

[47MVEagle]

Seibold knows what he’s doing.

 

[HK_Eagle]

Judging Seibs on tonight's game

1. Having Koula on the bench ended up being a master stroke (albeit, accidentally)
2. Croker at dummy half for 80 was really poor, IMO. I’d prefer to see a developing Simpkin there plying a true dummy half trade… may be too late for that now.
3. Did he get the forwards up for tonight after last week’s debacle? I don’t know.

 

[47MVEagle]

Judging Seibs on tonight's game

1. Having Koula on the bench ended up being a master stroke (albeit, accidentally)
2. Croker at dummy half for 80 was really poor, IMO. I’d prefer to see a developing Simpkin there plying a true dummy half trade… may be too late for that now.
3. Did he get the forwards up for tonight after last week’s debacle? I don’t know.

We flogged the best defensive team in the comp.

Do you think that was an accident?

 

[HK_Eagle]

We flogged the best defensive team in the comp.

Do you think that was an accident?

TBH, I really don’t know. If so, why couldn’t he get our forwards up last week with so much to play for? I get the adversity of the officiating, but that was a really poor response.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m much happier having Seibs moving forward than Dinosaur Des on loop. I hope and trust Seibs will take us another major step forward next season.

 

[Dion Johnson]

Judging Seibs on tonight's game

1. Having Koula on the bench ended up being a master stroke (albeit, accidentally)
2. Croker at dummy half for 80 was really poor, IMO. I’d prefer to see a developing Simpkin there plying a true dummy half trade… may be too late for that now.
3. Did he get the forwards up for tonight after last week’s debacle? I don’t know.

I think the proof was in the result,

point 1: Great decision it turned out, I didn’t think it would wor.

Point 2: I am of the view Simpkins is the best nine in the squad also,

Point 3 : Definitely got the forwards up, the selection of Lodge was needed, most who have played the game know you need a dominant prop that takes no punches, the strategy was executed well, big middles rolling up the middle and the edges hitting inside lines was to much for that pack of forwards, the kicking was good in getting the ball out of play as much as possible, small forwards the Dogs want the ball in play as long as they can to weaken the opponents big men.

Lastly Seibold out coached the Dogs with that game plan..

 

[BirdMan4ever]

Best decision was Talau and Lawton , burbo to reserve

 

[The Right Edge]

While the jury is still out in this forum here are some observations.

1) Took Lehi to Vegas - knew how good he was - appears to have protected him to the point where he can't leave him out.
2) Signed Talau again some critics of that choice in this forum, can score a try and makes some good hit ups and strong hits in D. brought him straight back after his injury.
3) Starting Lodge and leaving Aloia on the bench, the first time he has not started in a game he has played for quite some time.
4) Having the courage to bench Burbo
5) Tough choice Koula or a hooker on the bench - with the number of HIAs and backs carrying injuries probably a good call, especially when he chose not to use Burbo,
6) Will give him the benefit of the doubt with Croker, probably feels the defense where it is needed is stronger.
7) We have beaten Storm, Penrith, Roosters, Bulldogs, Cowboys with the Sharks the only team above us we have yet to play.

Some positive signs and oh we are in the finals and a chance of an extra game at Brookie.

 

[Ralphie]

For me, the ONLY measure of success is Premierships. Come back at the end of each season & we can talk about the coach once that has been decided.

 

[JenEagle]

We absolutely should be in the top 4.

One of those many games where we lost after having a big lead has possibly cost us getting to the final four and the week before the grand final

 

[Uber Eagle 72]

He has demonstrated that his is upgrade from Des. We have reached the finals this year which is a pass. We have one of the best teams from a capability perspective in the comp. IMO we just need more consistency in the middle. I say this as someone who was from the outset skeptical of his appointment. I am happy to be wrong in this case…

 

[Rocky]

For me, the ONLY measure of success is Premierships. Come back at the end of each season & we can talk about the coach once that has been decided.

By the way what did Seibold do to you? go back to the Broncos forum.

 

[Ron E. Gibbs]

For me, the ONLY measure of success is Premierships.

I mean, yes and no. Absolutely we should always be aiming to win a premiership, but often putting yourself in a position to do that takes more than one season. You can't say every coach who doesn't win the premiership this year is a failure. It depends where you're starting from and what you've got to work with, and as long as you're going getting closer to a premiership and not further away, you're probably doing okay. I can't believe I'm about to say this, but success isn't always a straight line…

I'm still 50/50 on Seibold. We definitely needed a change from Des, but I wasn't sure Seibs was the best choice. There are parts of him I really like (he's good with the media and seems to be good with the players) and parts that rub me the wrong way (the "work-ons", the "free throw at the stumps", etc). But his recruitment decisions have been pretty good, his player selections have not been stagnant, and the team has shown improvement overall, as have individual players. I reckon he probably deserves an extension.

That said, it's beyond important that he and the team don't think they've done enough this season and can phone it in from here on in. The next couple of games are vital. There's a big difference between finishing fifth (or sixth) and seventh, as there is between winning an elimination final and losing one. We probably don't have enough to be genuine contenders this year, but we can put the fear into every team above us and set ourselves up for next year, or the year after that.

And I would consider that a qualified success.

 

[BOZO]

. You can't say every coach who doesn't win the premiership this year is a failure.

You can say that a coach who has not won a premiership in their coaching career has failed to Performed to Premiership winning standards

We will agree to disagree and Happy Fathers day

 

[BOZO]

We definitely needed a change from Des,

We definitely needed a change from Des Mark 2
Des Mark 2 has been way off his Benchmark Premiership Winning Best for years now
and his Trend with his underachieving Titans continues . Apart form a few inconsistent good games the Titans have been consistently ordinary
I like Des but he truth is the truth and every Great Sea eagle has its day

 

[Ron E. Gibbs]

You can say that a coach who has not won a premiership in their coaching career has failed to Performed to Premiership winning standards

We will agree to disagree and Happy Fathers day

That makes for a lot of failures, BOZO. It also ignores coaches who have won a premiership, like Ricky Stuart did in his very first year (2002), and haven't done anything much since. Has he been entitled to bask in that glow for the last 22 years?

I'd put Des in the same "What Have You Done for Me Lately?" basket. He last won a premiership in 2011. The only trophies he's won since are the 2017 and 2021 Vidal Sassoon Best Hair in Rugby League (Mature Age Category) Awards.

If you insist your current coach must have won a premiership, no matter how far back that might have been, you are narrowing the field of suitable candidates considerably, without necessarily guaranteeing any success in the future.

When you think about players, there is always new talent in rugby league. There's no reason those players need to be coached by the same group of grumpy old men (Wayne, Bellyache, Robbo, Des, Ricky, Flanno, etc) until the old buggers finally decide to retire. Ivan Cleary, with his three-peat, has arguably achieved more than any of them, and up until 2021 he was just another coach who'd failed to perform to premiership-winning standards…

 

[BOZO]

Ricky Stuart did in his very first year (2002), and haven't done anything much since. Has he been entitled to bask in that glow for the last 22 years?

Ricky did win a premiership in his very first year and he he is entitled to bask in his historic Premiership winning Glory because at the time he preformed to premiership winning standards
So Credit where credit is due .
Since then he made grand finals and semi finals but has not reached his pinnacle premiership best
The same can be said with one time Premiership winning coaches like Madge Maguire

 

[mbe]

I think I would much rather be in Seibold’s place at the moment than Kevin Walter’s place. At least Manly is in the finals which is more than can be said for the Brisbane Broncos.

 

[Ralphie]

By the way what did Seibold do to you? go back to the Broncos forum.

Why would I do that when I have been a diehard Eagles fan for 60 years? I just have higher expectations and standards than you do.

 

[Ralphie]

I mean, yes and no. Absolutely we should always be aiming to win a premiership, but often putting yourself in a position to do that takes more than one season. You can't say every coach who doesn't win the premiership this year is a failure. It depends where you're starting from and what you've got to work with, and as long as you're going getting closer to a premiership and not further away, you're probably doing okay. I can't believe I'm about to say this, but success isn't always a straight line…

I'm still 50/50 on Seibold. We definitely needed a change from Des, but I wasn't sure Seibs was the best choice. There are parts of him I really like (he's good with the media and seems to be good with the players) and parts that rub me the wrong way (the "work-ons", the "free throw at the stumps", etc). But his recruitment decisions have been pretty good, his player selections have not been stagnant, and the team has shown improvement overall, as have individual players. I reckon he probably deserves an extension.

That said, it's beyond important that he and the team don't think they've done enough this season and can phone it in from here on in. The next couple of games are vital. There's a big difference between finishing fifth (or sixth) and seventh, as there is between winning an elimination final and losing one. We probably don't have enough to be genuine contenders this year, but we can put the fear into every team above us and set ourselves up for next year, or the year after that.

And I would consider that a qualified success.

I don't disagree conceptually, and I agree it was time to part company with De$$ie, but Seibold is a failed Donkey's coach so is under suspicion from the get go. I have seen very little from him to suggest he is a Premiership winning coach, rather I suspect he is a Premiership standard BS artist.