Sack Barrett

[hozza]

Great victory today. The team played with grit and lots of heart and that’s what won the game. But don’t let that fool you, our defence structure is horrible and that’s coaching.

Our players showed they can compete, imagine what a real coach could do..

 

[Ryan]

Barrett deserves next season. Want to see him with a full, balanced and settled roster right from the blocks.

Still need a super quick winger, replacement for Lane and a 5/8. Elgey, Tupou and Cartwright thanks.

I think we could be a real threat then.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

Great victory today. The team played with grit and lots of heart and that’s what won the game. But don’t let that fool you, our defence structure is horrible and that’s coaching.

Our players showed they can compete, imagine what a real coach could do..

Or an ordinary roster in parts.

Parker did example is really a first grader , but of course in your mind that’s the coaches fault!!

And Suli, young and learning the trade , but of course that’s again the coaches fault.

And Kelly, who is improving but it’s taken time , again the coaches fault no doubt??

Agree the defence on one side is ordinary , but if you think it’s not the roster that’s causing that then think again!!

 

[Bearfax]

Or an ordinary roster in parts.

Parker did example is really a first grader , but of course in your mind that’s the coaches fault!!

And Suli, young and learning the trade , but of course that’s again the coaches fault.

And Kelly, who is improving but it’s taken time , again the coaches fault no doubt??

Agree the defence on one side is ordinary , but if you think it’s not the roster that’s causing that then think again!!

I do think though that Barrett misses the imaginative perspective of good coaches. Perhaps it will come but to date he has flogged tactics and players in certain positions that haven't worked over and again. For example, Tom Wright is a far more dangerous footballer than Parker or Suli and would seem ideal for the centre or wing, but Barrett doesn't seem to be prepared to give it a try. Another is trying Kelly at 5/8. Walker is far better than when he first took the role, but it is evident that this Manly side that scored most of its tries in the backs last year, is now relying on forwards such as Lane to show brute force to get over the try line. Its evident that the ball is not getting to the backs with good room to move, and the backs he chooses, such as Parker and Suli are slow. The argument would be that they are safer with defence but is this right. I don't think Suli is any better in defence than Tom Wright and far less dangerous in attack..

My concern with Barrett is that he only makes changes through those forced on him by injury and I suspect he has favourites. Last year he dropped Kelly to get some more spark from him, yet he allows those now in the backline far greater latitude. Fine to allow a side to remain unchanged. But its dumb to stick with the same side over an again when they are contesting the spoon. And how did he allow the club to let Lane go. This money issue is just an excuse for poor player judgement.

 

[hozza]

Or an ordinary roster in parts.

Parker did example is really a first grader , but of course in your mind that’s the coaches fault!!

And Suli, young and learning the trade , but of course that’s again the coaches fault.

And Kelly, who is improving but it’s taken time , again the coaches fault no doubt??

Agree the defence on one side is ordinary , but if you think it’s not the roster that’s causing that then think again!!

Ahhh no. Players proved they could win today proving you wrong. Did you miss the game? we won mate 33-32. Good gutsy win..

There is no doubt we need some more experience but that’s not going to happen, there is this little thing called salary cap that we have fuc$ed up. What we can change is the coaching, the structures and the methods being used. Not sack everyone like you babble on about, just 3 people. Just 3. That’s not fuc$ing everyone.

Barrett, cartwrong and fat Ferris have had 3 years. One win doesn’t wipe 3 seasons of sh!t.

 

[eadie fan]

Told him I felt (after a game quite some time ago) that we were puffing after 10 minutes). No swearing. No name calling. Thought I'd get a professional reply.

You essentially intimated that he is incompetent. Did you really expect a professional reply when you were giving him a backhander?

 

[wombatgc]

The best decision Barrett made today was to keep Hodkinson off the field.

 

[anthonyb1965]

Ahhh no. Players proved they could win today proving you wrong. Did you miss the game? we won mate 33-32. Good gutsy win..

There is no doubt we need some more experience but that’s not going to happen, there is this little thing called salary cap that we have fuc$ed up. What we can change is the coaching, the structures and the methods being used. Not sack everyone like you babble on about, just 3 people. Just 3. That’s not fuc$ing everyone.

Barrett, cartwrong and fat Ferris have had 3 years. One win doesn’t wipe 3 seasons of sh!t.

They proved that last week and missed tackkes and we lost! Coaching did not cause the huge amount tackles that were missed agaisnt the roosters either.

It is not simply the coach!

 

[hozza]

They proved that last week and missed tackkes and we lost! Coaching did not cause the huge amount tackles that were missed agaisnt the roosters either.

It is not simply the coach!

We lost last week because they didn’t know how to close a game out. Again mental toughness and game plan come from the coaches.

Not saying the players are blameless, they most definitely are. Just saying accountability starts with the coach/coaches, these ones have had long enough.

 

[Bill Hamilton]

I just had a look at the Sharkies forum and some of them are calling for Flanno to be sacked. Who would want to be an NRL coach.

 

[HoldenV8]

Still not happy with Twenty, despite the win?
If you heard DCE speak after the match he couldn't have been more praiseworthy of Twenty.
Put me in the 'I don't know category'. The team's results have been terrible but I can't decide if he is fully to blame.

I'm a member of the "Sack Barrett" club because quite frankly I think he's been a failure as our coach. But at the same time I also realise that he is not the fully to blame. Not only is the club right now one of the worst run, if not THE worst run club in the NRL, but the players also have to shoulder some of the blame because its them who are going out there and not performing.

But I do honestly believe that even with all the injuries we've had and with all the off field drama the club has been going through.....we should be playing a lot better from our structures in attack and defence to our games plans. And those things fall back on the coach. If we had a good coach then we wouldn't be trying to avoid the spoon, we'd at the very least with the talent this team has got be vying for a top 8 spot.

 

[40 years an eagle]

We lost last week because they didn’t know how to close a game out. Again mental toughness and game plan come from the coaches.

Not saying the players are blameless, they most definitely are. Just saying accountability starts with the coach/coaches, these ones have had long enough.

No offence mate but I think we lost last week because our supercoach replaced 2 guys that were in the zone with 2 that had been sitting on their arse for an hour and 20 min. We needed to stay connected and Bazo upset that. He disrupted the UNIT that knew what to do, and at a crucial time.
I hope he learned from it but I doubt it. Learning doesn't appear to be his strong suit. But either way yeah, it was a coaching blunder. All IMHO.

 

[midsteyne]

The Riff proved they can do it to anyone,Raiders are a hard bunch of dirty players and they couldn't stop the onslaught,what hope did our kids have,can t blame it all on TB

 

[Ron E. Gibbs]

They proved that last week and missed tackkes and we lost! Coaching did not cause the huge amount tackles that were missed agaisnt the roosters either.

It is not simply the coach!

Whose job is it to teach defensive structures? Whose job is it to make sure the players are playing with the right mindset? Yes, the coach isn't out there missing the tackles himself, but the team's performance is, in one way or another, always a reflection of the coach. Even if it's not all his fault, the coach has to take responsibility - that's the gig.

 

[anthonyb1965]

Whose job is it to teach defensive structures? Whose job is it to make sure the players are playing with the right mindset? Yes, the coach isn't out there missing the tackles himself, but the team's performance is, in one way or another, always a reflection of the coach. Even if it's not all his fault, the coach has to take responsibility - that's the gig.

As I said, it is not just the coach. The defensive lapses are both players and coach.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Whose job is it to teach defensive structures? Whose job is it to make sure the players are playing with the right mindset? Yes, the coach isn't out there missing the tackles himself, but the team's performance is, in one way or another, always a reflection of the coach. Even if it's not all his fault, the coach has to take responsibility - that's the gig.

Fair comment, and it says quite a bit about the team and coach that they could come from behind not once, not twice, but 3 times, against a strong club at full strength at home with everything to play for.
Our consistency has been awful this year but still they have a go, that is enough to give me some confidence for next year.

 

[Ryan]

You essentially intimated that he is incompetent. Did you really expect a professional reply when you were giving him a backhander?

I didn't expect to be challenged to a punch on, so no, I didn't expect that. Was hoping to have a discussion, yes.

 

[robbiea]

Whose job is it to teach defensive structures? Whose job is it to make sure the players are playing with the right mindset? Yes, the coach isn't out there missing the tackles himself, but the team's performance is, in one way or another, always a reflection of the coach. Even if it's not all his fault, the coach has to take responsibility - that's the gig.

Who's job is it to start the year with having two quality halves ? Pisspoor upper managements ,thats who !

 

[Woodsie]

We lost last week because they didn’t know how to close a game out. Again mental toughness and game plan come from the coaches.

Not saying the players are blameless, they most definitely are. Just saying accountability starts with the coach/coaches, these ones have had long enough.

Well ... if it is so easy .... why didn't Flannigan coach HIS team how to close out a game .... Flannigan must be Shiite at game plans and mental toughness ....

 

[hozza]

Well ... if it is so easy .... why didn't Flannigan coach HIS team how to close out a game .... Flannigan must be Shiite at game plans and mental toughness ....

Ohhhh are we doing comparisons are we? Ok let’s have a look at a few...
Your man, the man, the one and only T Barrett-
Barrett-69 games coached, 41 losses, 28 wins.40.6% win record.
Flanagan- 178 games coached, 78 losses, 97 wins, 2 draws and a drought breaking premiership, 54.5% win loss record.

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Enough said really, isn’t it.