[Resurrected] Please, please Trent... Pick Tom Wright

Sheikheagle said:
Super try but a good rugby player does not necessarily mean a good NRL player. He is much more suited to rugby where defence is not important.
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Generally in the outside backs, players in Union are little different to players in League. O'Connor, Fairfax etc. They for the most part easily adjust to the different game because their roles are similar. Iff they are good in one code they'll usually be good in the other. In fact its a little tougher for a Union back because there are fifteen players in the opposition. Its in the forwards that adaptation is a little more difficult, but again Price, Mossip etc managed it. Rugby forwards play a quite different role to League forwards. So I think Wright, who has been killing it in Union, would have likely been magic in League. Was never given the chance to settle in first grade. Canterbury Bankstown made the same mistake many years ago letting go a young junior called Thurston. Too small, not tough enough they said. Yeh. Union is a damn tough game and unlike League is far more competitive internationally
 
SeaEagleRock8 said:
Haha @Bearfax I thought of you as soon as I saw Wright's great try, you were always a big fan.
It was similar to the recent Kaoe Weekes beauty.
No-one's ever denied these guys are brilliant runners.
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You can teach basic skills to a player but you can't teach innate talent. That's why I would suggest holding players like these longer. They may fail, like Schuster (though I still think he'll come good), but better to hold on longer and potentially fail, than not keep them and thereby never having the chance they will succeed for you.
 
SeaEagleRock8 said:
You can't hold them against their will! @:D
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They let him go SER8. No offer was apparently being made, like Gutherson he wanted to stay, but then the Brumbies snuck in under their guard and offered a motza. He would have stayed if Manly had shown an interest and Barrett had no idea how to handle the kid. Played four games for Manly and was gone.
 
SeaEagleRock8 said:
Haha @Bearfax I thought of you as soon as I saw Wright's great try, you were always a big fan.
It was similar to the recent Kaoe Weekes beauty.
No-one's ever denied these guys are brilliant runners.
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When this post was originally made we had lost 4 on the bounce to Tits, tigpies, squeels and knights and Tom Wright was stuck behind Walker (fair enough), Suli (fair enough), Kelly (probs fair enough), Parker (hmmm), Uate (was already on the slide) and Jonathon Wright (f*cking who??)...

In the end Twent opted to pick Matthew Wright and we lost a close one to the rorters then had two good wins against donkeys and drizzle b4 a 1 point loss to the faders...

Sure we had a really weak season generally that year but, potentially, Twent made the right call on this one (at the time - Tom Wright now is not Tom Wright of April 2018)...

side question - are any/all of these wrights related?
 
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Bearfax said:
You can teach basic skills to a player but you can't teach innate talent. That's why I would suggest holding players like these longer. They may fail, like Schuster (though I still think he'll come good), but better to hold on longer and potentially fail, than not keep them and thereby never having the chance they will succeed for you.
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Salary cap management and succession planning has been our achilles heel

Your not going to keep gun young players if you cant pay them. They are either part of the clubs future or not. All of these young guns are in the halves, which every team is searching for 24/7

Careers are short and good clubs make hard decisions

The coaching merry go round is the real issue. While great coaches make a difference , blaming coaches constantly for player performance after inheriting cap pressure with the job will never ammount to long term planning. Player power always wins

Every coach needs success in 2 years, so if your 19 and not a superstar and we have more in that position, your merely a top 30 spot wasted and money to spend elsewhere,

Its sad but its been manlys choice mostly, wether its wright , weeks, latu or humphries. They were not prioritised over schuster, brooks and dce

They might be solid decisions, they might not. Too early to tell,
 
jbb/james said:
Salary cap management and succession planning has been our achilles heel

Your not going to keep gun young players if you cant pay them. They are either part of the clubs future or not. All of these young guns are in the halves, which every team is searching for 24/7

Careers are short and good clubs make hard decisions

The coaching merry go round is the real issue. While great coaches make a difference , blaming coaches constantly for player performance after inheriting cap pressure with the job will never ammount to long term planning. Player power always wins

Every coach needs success in 2 years, so if your 19 and not a superstar and we have more in that position, your merely a top 30 spot wasted and money to spend elsewhere,

Its sad but its been manlys choice mostly, wether its wright , weeks, latu or humphries. They were not prioritised over schuster, brooks and dce

They might be solid decisions, they might not. Too early to tell,
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Agree that the coach situations since Des 1.0 have just been embarrassing and a large contributor to our lack of success... all of the coaches in that period were forced to drink from the poisoned chalice and then blamed for vomiting...
 
frank stokes said:
Agree that the coach situations since Des 1.0 have just been embarrassing and a large contributor to our lack of success... all of the coaches in that period were forced to drink from the poisoned chalice and then blamed for vomiting...
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Love it
 
jbb/james said:
Salary cap management and succession planning has been our achilles heel

Your not going to keep gun young players if you cant pay them. They are either part of the clubs future or not. All of these young guns are in the halves, which every team is searching for 24/7

Careers are short and good clubs make hard decisions

The coaching merry go round is the real issue. While great coaches make a difference , blaming coaches constantly for player performance after inheriting cap pressure with the job will never ammount to long term planning. Player power always wins

Every coach needs success in 2 years, so if your 19 and not a superstar and we have more in that position, your merely a top 30 spot wasted and money to spend elsewhere,

Its sad but its been manlys choice mostly, wether its wright , weeks, latu or humphries. They were not prioritised over schuster, brooks and dce

They might be solid decisions, they might not. Too early to tell,
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Certainlly you are not going to keep gun players when they have made their mark unless you're prepared to pay big bucks.

But these kids were not looking for big backs at this stage of their career. They were wanting opportunity.

They've stuck it out with the club through the junior system, made mates, looking to hit the big time with the club they have been raised in. Gutherson, and I know I harp on this, had only months before signed a two year contract with Manly. Injuries knocked him about and suddenly Manly 'suggests' he looks elsewhere. He'd played only 5 games with Manly. He was a Manly junior raised in the Manly area. Probably sat on the hill watching his Manly heroes and thinking he wanted to be there. I would if I had had the talent. And Manlly suggested he should look elsewhere.

Bob Fulton enticed Tom Wright from Union seeing him as the player to replace Foran. The kid had offers to stay in Union but he wanted to try League. Just when the chance comes its made clear by Barrett he's not what he's looking for. Played four games, some off the bench and only for minutes, then dumped back to reserves for the rest of the year. He wasn't costing Manly a heap. Neither was Gutherson. Neither was Weekes.

This is where I've felt Manly has faltered in the past decade (though finally getting it together now it seems). They let kids with talent go, who are not costing a lot, and then bring in average first graders as replacements. Madness. I say it over and again. Stick with your juniors if they have talent.
 
frank stokes said:
Agree that the coach situations since Des 1.0 have just been embarrassing and a large contributor to our lack of success... all of the coaches in that period were forced to drink from the poisoned chalice and then blamed for vomiting...
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There is only 1 person responsible for this.....
 
mave said:
There is only 1 person responsible for this.....
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He has ultimate responsibility sure but, for mine, he employed a lot of people that were not up to the task(s) assigned them also... and add to that a whole heap of back biting...

It is almost like our club has been eating itself from the inside...
 
Bearfax said:
Certainlly you are not going to keep gun players when they have made their mark unless you're prepared to pay big bucks.

But these kids were not looking for big backs at this stage of their career. They were wanting opportunity.

They've stuck it out with the club through the junior system, made mates, looking to hit the big time with the club they have been raised in. Gutherson, and I know I harp on this, had only months before signed a two year contract with Manly. Injuries knocked him about and suddenly Manly 'suggests' he looks elsewhere. He'd played only 5 games with Manly. He was a Manly junior raised in the Manly area. Probably sat on the hill watching his Manly heroes and thinking he wanted to be there. I would if I had had the talent. And Manlly suggested he should look elsewhere.

Bob Fulton enticed Tom Wright from Union seeing him as the player to replace Foran. The kid had offers to stay in Union but he wanted to try League. Just when the chance comes its made clear by Barrett he's not what he's looking for. Played four games, some off the bench and only for minutes, then dumped back to reserves for the rest of the year. He wasn't costing Manly a heap. Neither was Gutherson. Neither was Weekes.

This is where I've felt Manly has faltered in the past decade (though finally getting it together now it seems). They let kids with talent go, who are not costing a lot, and then bring in average first graders as replacements. Madness. I say it over and again. Stick with your juniors if they have talent.
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For the club and fans its the way……for sure
For the coach its how to join the unemployment line

some things seemed to have improved under mestrov

The seibs contract chatter, indicates they are still to learn fully. If we have a coach ace play it, if not stick with seibs, cuddle him and tell him to build our future, not his

I get some of it is instigated by his end.

I think seibs has done ok and if we raleigh and make the 8 , someone else might like seibs too

The des contract , with incentive clauses had him picking for his bank balance.

Brad arthur who is topical had 10 years at parra. But he was drip fed contracts as well and made some poor decisions trying to fix it too quickly, to save himself.
 
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