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Sweaty Beavers work hard for 80minsI can never remember ever seeing the great Beaver gassed. Maybe the sweat was hiding under the headgear.
Sweaty Beavers work hard for 80minsI can never remember ever seeing the great Beaver gassed. Maybe the sweat was hiding under the headgear.
Would think however that Olokau - atu and Saab were very deserving of upgrades irrespective who was managing them . Still taken aback the Shu was able to command 800 grand , maybe a couple of other clubs were prepared to offer him big dollars but he was already under contract for 23 and 24 and would seem like serious overs considering all of his form and availability issues last season and continuing into 23 . Sad state of affairs when or if a club C E O can not or gives the impression of not being able to reconcile with the influence of any outside entity or manager and when the best interests of the club are at stake retention wise . Anyway of course Latu has not even got to i st grade level yet but gives every indication of having the right attributes to do well there , Samual already has . Just think that there were better options to get better results in the circumstances , Naturally not aware of all of the inner workings or intentions with the club but the fact that Latu was still under contract for another 2 seasons and Samual maybe needed not that much of an upgrade and both now reside in the Manly area , would seem an easy alternative to keep both for whatever time in the fold .Suli managed by Tartak.
Tartak puts squeeze on club for new, larger contract for Suli, club does not comply & releases Suli. Suli hasn’t set the world ablaze at Saints.
Schuster, Olakau’atu & Saab, managed by Tartak.
Tartak puts squeeze on club for upgrades to Schuster, Olakau’atu & Saab. Club upgrades all 3.
3 x Fainus, Fifita & Tuitavake all managed by Tartak.
Tartak puts squeeze on club to release Sione Fainu to Tigers, club complies. Sione hasn’t played first grade yet.
Tartak puts squeeze on club to release Fifita & Tuitavake, club complies. Neither have played first grade yet.
Tartak puts squeeze on club to release Latu Fainu OR club decides it doesn’t want Latu Fainu, club swaps Fainu for Talau (apparently). Rumours are Samuela will follow.
What has the club done wrong here?
It’s kept the 3 players it wanted of the 10 managed by Tartak.
It’s reduced Tartak’s power base & hold over the club by reducing the number of players he can keep squeezing the club for upgrades.
Now Tartak & Fulton can squeeze Tigers dry for upgrades & ruin that club instead of Manly.
Manly were going for Flegler preseason so there obviously is some space under the cap.
Probably signed by the tigers soonAlso, don't discount Jamie Humphreys guys. The kid is a real talent. Perfect replacement for DCE in the future.
Latu is in the top 30The kid has talent no doubt but this continual talk about being the highest-paid teenager or for a contract of this size etc. is BS IMO. He is in the second last year of his contract with us and isn't in the top 30 nor a development contract according to the NRL which publishes this info so cant even be on 60k this year. Sounds like a typical agent self-promotion piece. As for his ability, I think he still has a fair way to go, he has always been an exceptional ball runner but still has to develop many of the other attributes of a decent NRL 6.
source?Latu is in the top 30
source?
NRL website doesn't believe so.
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From the club on the 19th of April.
"The 17-year-old is in Manly's full-time NRL top 30 squad this season"
Unless he got shuffled out somehow....
Good point. We are not going to win a premiership if we keep scraping the bottom of the barrel.What a pity our revolving transfer door is only with the lowly West Tuggers and not with a decent club, like Penrith.
I did not include Beaver because he is in the “hens teeth” category and you cannot expect to just come across another player like him…I can never remember ever seeing the great Beaver gassed. Maybe the sweat was hiding under the headgear.
I do not like that the Fulton’s have been pushed out of Manly (as Bob is an absolute legend of our club) but I think seriously bad decisions were made within their areas of responsibility during their tenure…I think we got into this position due to shortsightedness/in attention at the top (Penn) which resulted in umpteen CEOs in as many months, which allowed the Fultons & Tartak to get their tentacles in.
Suli managed by Tartak.
Tartak puts squeeze on club for new, larger contract for Suli, club does not comply & releases Suli. Suli hasn’t set the world ablaze at Saints.
Schuster, Olakau’atu & Saab, managed by Tartak.
Tartak puts squeeze on club for upgrades to Schuster, Olakau’atu & Saab. Club upgrades all 3.
3 x Fainus, Fifita & Tuitavake all managed by Tartak.
Tartak puts squeeze on club to release Sione Fainu to Tigers, club complies. Sione hasn’t played first grade yet.
Tartak puts squeeze on club to release Fifita & Tuitavake, club complies. Neither have played first grade yet.
Tartak puts squeeze on club to release Latu Fainu OR club decides it doesn’t want Latu Fainu, club swaps Fainu for Talau (apparently). Rumours are Samuela will follow.
What has the club done wrong here?
It’s kept the 3 players it wanted of the 10 managed by Tartak.
It’s reduced Tartak’s power base & hold over the club by reducing the number of players he can keep squeezing the club for upgrades.
Now Tartak & Fulton can squeeze Tigers dry for upgrades & ruin that club instead of Manly.
Manly were going for Flegler preseason so there obviously is some space under the cap.
Spot on. Look at what the Warriors have done this season - kept their core of big, rampaging players but surrounded them with hard-working grafters who always turn up with the right intent.A large issue that I see is that we have too many big units that go missing when they are tired…
we lack the Joel Thompson or Curtis Sironen (before he got injured) or Watmough or Shane Rodney type players that are ultra fit and can continually grind for long periods, are safe with the ball (watmough maybe not so much) and can produce outstanding plays and extra efforts despite being gassed…
It's all in the mathematics.“Woods will depart at the end of this season, as will Johns, freeing up 2 top 30 spots & some salary cap.”
What a player he was.I can never remember ever seeing the great Beaver gassed. Maybe the sweat was hiding under the headgear.
Either you overthink things or are being deliberately obtuse trying to start an argument, biff.It's all in the mathematics.
Woods and Cooper currently take up two spots in our roster. Woods costs us nothing and Johns is on a minimum contract. Sum total equals one minimum contract.
Woods and Johns depart and we need to fill those two spots. To do so we must acquire two players. If both players are given minimum contracts the sum total is twice what it was.
Woods and Cooper won't free up any salary cap space when they depart at seasons end.
It's all in the mathematics.
No, I am not being deliberately annoying or slow to understand. I was merely pointing out your error is all. The fact that you are holding up a fallacious mathematical error as the foundation of your position suggests you might be wanting an argument. Let me present it to you another way.Either you overthink things or are being deliberately obtuse trying to start an argument, biff.
When Woods & Johns depart, they will free up 2 top 30 spots.
When Johns departs, it will free up some salary cap.
Simple as that.
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