Hodkinson

[BOZO]

For the tackles morgan and milford missed , more then made up for it with their attack.

You got it feathered friend

 

[Deleted member 26876]

I totally agree Green a "middle of the road" 5/8 but, you (and others) keep regurgitating how bad his defence is/was.

He was certainly no worse than any of the blue chip players;
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It was more defencive reads than anything

 

[HoldenV8]

Has anyone thought that Hodkinson may be just an insurance buy in case DCE gets injured? Because as it stands, after Cherry we don't have much in the way of first grade experience in the halves outside of Hastings and Walker.

Everyone is saying that we want him to partner DCE in first grade and that is plausible. But an experienced hand as a backup wouldn't be a bad thing.

In saying that, yes I do think we're trying to get him to play first grade (considering we were also after Carney that's how it does appear). But who knows, maybe Baz has already decided on Hastings or Croker anyway?

 

[Eagles2nv]

The other thing with hodko is that he has been playing in a pretty bad team.

Look at uate, comes to manly, new lease on life and was one of the best wingers in the comp.

 

[Wombat64]

I understand your concern but he has been assessed by our medical team .

Yeah OK, OK, but has Zorba checked him out? That's what really matters isn't it?

 

[Althewomanspal]

This was a post in the roar

Right now, Manly are a club in crisis. Apparently.

Apparently the salary cap scandal is disastrous, catastrophic, fatal.

Sure, the eventual penalty may result in the club losing cap space for 2018, which in effect will render the search for a new number six dead and buried. It’s not ideal, but it certainly isn’t the be-all and end-all.

Hear me out.

Both Lachlan Croker and Jackson Hastings were Junior Kangaroos. For different reasons neither has kicked on like most expected them to. That doesn’t mean they’ve forgotten how to play, however.

Let’s remember that the Sydney Roosters, the undisputed kings of roster management and cap manipulation, once released James Maloney to accelerate Hastings development. A few months later Mitchell Pearce got on the drink and Jackson Hastings became the club’s chief playmaker. At 19.

It was a recipe for disaster, and Hastings was shipped out to Manly with little fanfare less than 12 months later. Apparently his attitude stunk and he struggled to give senior players the respect they deserved. If this is the case, Hastings will need to address it. With age, however, often comes maturity.

Similarly, family ties gave Lachlan Croker an exacerbated entry into the rugby league sphere. At the same time, though, he dominated in the under 20s for Canberra to such an extent that Ricky Stuart earmarked him as a future star in lime green. High hopes quickly faded as a result of injuries and the stellar form of more senior playmakers in the nation’s capital. Like Hastings, Croker was sent packing without as much as a goodbye.

If reports are to be believed, the nephew of Jason is training the house down at Narrabeen in the hope of finally fulfilling his undoubted potential.

Either one of these players can fill the void left by Blake Green, and the competition between the two can only be beneficial for the club. While Green’s composure will be missed, he wasn’t the heartbeat of the side. His loss should not be fatal.

Remember, Daly Cherry-Evans remains. As do the Trbojevic brothers.

The key for Manly in 2018, however, won’t be any of the aforementioned players.

Enter Shaun Lane. This guy legitimately was the next big thing when he burst onto the scene for Canterbury in 2015. Like the two young halves vying for the number six jumper, though, Lane also disappeared out the back door, shipped off to the Warriors before ending up at Blacktown all in the space of 12 months.

But at 23 that time has arrived. Last season Manly struggled for depth in the back row, and although Lane showed glimpses of his former self late in the year while enjoying an extended stay in the side, deficiencies were still clearly noticeable. Most of these appeared effort related, however, and a full preseason under Trent Barrett’s watchful eye and Dan Ferris’s rigorous training program will surely have the towering back rower primed and ready for Round 1.

If he does kick on, like he can, Manly will foster one of the most formidable back rows in the competition next season.

Staying with the forwards, Addin Fonua-Blake could well finish the year as the competition’s most improved forward. His cameos from the bench were vital at different stages last year, and with greater experience and maturity will inevitably come greater impact. How he didn’t get more game time for a below-par Kiwis side was one of the World Cup’s great mysteries.

Finally, it would be criminal to finish a Sea Eagles yarn without talking adequately about the darlings of the Northern Beaches. In 2018 expect the Trbojevic brothers to become the backbone of both Barrett’s Sea Eagles and Fittler’s Blues. The sky is the limit for these two superstars of our game.

In all, the Manly Warringah Sea Eagles still have the ingredients to make a serious dent in the NRL in 2018. Don’t be bogged down by media innuendo; this is a side on the up.

 

[Althewomanspal]

I would love to see Hastings and croker be given a go. They were both the best of their age as 18/19 year olds. Both great players. Hastings skill is incredible and he is a 85% goal kicker. We could do worse than hodgkinson, he could well turn out to be a great little general on a modest deal. But I'd love to see Hastings at 6 with Croker at 14 or visa versa.

 

[winnyason]

This was a post in the roar

Right now, Manly are a club in crisis. Apparently.

Apparently the salary cap scandal is disastrous, catastrophic, fatal.

Sure, the eventual penalty may result in the club losing cap space for 2018, which in effect will render the search for a new number six dead and buried. It’s not ideal, but it certainly isn’t the be-all and end-all.

Hear me out.

Both Lachlan Croker and Jackson Hastings were Junior Kangaroos. For different reasons neither has kicked on like most expected them to. That doesn’t mean they’ve forgotten how to play, however.

Let’s remember that the Sydney Roosters, the undisputed kings of roster management and cap manipulation, once released James Maloney to accelerate Hastings development. A few months later Mitchell Pearce got on the drink and Jackson Hastings became the club’s chief playmaker. At 19.

It was a recipe for disaster, and Hastings was shipped out to Manly with little fanfare less than 12 months later. Apparently his attitude stunk and he struggled to give senior players the respect they deserved. If this is the case, Hastings will need to address it. With age, however, often comes maturity.

Similarly, family ties gave Lachlan Croker an exacerbated entry into the rugby league sphere. At the same time, though, he dominated in the under 20s for Canberra to such an extent that Ricky Stuart earmarked him as a future star in lime green. High hopes quickly faded as a result of injuries and the stellar form of more senior playmakers in the nation’s capital. Like Hastings, Croker was sent packing without as much as a goodbye.

If reports are to be believed, the nephew of Jason is training the house down at Narrabeen in the hope of finally fulfilling his undoubted potential.

Either one of these players can fill the void left by Blake Green, and the competition between the two can only be beneficial for the club. While Green’s composure will be missed, he wasn’t the heartbeat of the side. His loss should not be fatal.

Remember, Daly Cherry-Evans remains. As do the Trbojevic brothers.

The key for Manly in 2018, however, won’t be any of the aforementioned players.

Enter Shaun Lane. This guy legitimately was the next big thing when he burst onto the scene for Canterbury in 2015. Like the two young halves vying for the number six jumper, though, Lane also disappeared out the back door, shipped off to the Warriors before ending up at Blacktown all in the space of 12 months.

But at 23 that time has arrived. Last season Manly struggled for depth in the back row, and although Lane showed glimpses of his former self late in the year while enjoying an extended stay in the side, deficiencies were still clearly noticeable. Most of these appeared effort related, however, and a full preseason under Trent Barrett’s watchful eye and Dan Ferris’s rigorous training program will surely have the towering back rower primed and ready for Round 1.

If he does kick on, like he can, Manly will foster one of the most formidable back rows in the competition next season.

Staying with the forwards, Addin Fonua-Blake could well finish the year as the competition’s most improved forward. His cameos from the bench were vital at different stages last year, and with greater experience and maturity will inevitably come greater impact. How he didn’t get more game time for a below-par Kiwis side was one of the World Cup’s great mysteries.

Finally, it would be criminal to finish a Sea Eagles yarn without talking adequately about the darlings of the Northern Beaches. In 2018 expect the Trbojevic brothers to become the backbone of both Barrett’s Sea Eagles and Fittler’s Blues. The sky is the limit for these two superstars of our game.

In all, the Manly Warringah Sea Eagles still have the ingredients to make a serious dent in the NRL in 2018. Don’t be bogged down by media innuendo; this is a side on the up.

Tent lane seems to impressing the right people. I think our bench will surprise

 

[Brissie Kid]

Barrett still looks fit enough. Captain-coach Barrett to play 5/8th by round 7.

 

[Deleted member 26876]

1. Tom Trbojevic
2. Jorge Taufua
3. Dylan Walker
4. Brian Kelly
5. Akuila Uate
6. Trent Hodkinson/Lachlan Croker
7. Daly Cherry-Evans
8. Martin Taupau
9. Apisai Koroisau
10. Darcy Lussick
11. Joel Thompson
12. Curtis Sironen
13. Jake Trbojevic
INTERCHANGE
14. Mainese Fainu (spelling?)
15. Addin Fonua-Blake
16. Toafofoa Sipley (high hopes)
17. Frank Winterstein

Reserves: Tanginoa, Brown, Perrett, Gosiewski, Hastings, Joey Lussick, Paseka, Lane (to prop imo), Parker, Matt Wright, Tom Wright

-Very good side

 

[Kevinward777]

This was a post in the roar

Right now, Manly are a club in crisis. Apparently.

Apparently the salary cap scandal is disastrous, catastrophic, fatal.

Sure, the eventual penalty may result in the club losing cap space for 2018, which in effect will render the search for a new number six dead and buried. It’s not ideal, but it certainly isn’t the be-all and end-all.

Hear me out.

Both Lachlan Croker and Jackson Hastings were Junior Kangaroos. For different reasons neither has kicked on like most expected them to. That doesn’t mean they’ve forgotten how to play, however.

Let’s remember that the Sydney Roosters, the undisputed kings of roster management and cap manipulation, once released James Maloney to accelerate Hastings development. A few months later Mitchell Pearce got on the drink and Jackson Hastings became the club’s chief playmaker. At 19.

It was a recipe for disaster, and Hastings was shipped out to Manly with little fanfare less than 12 months later. Apparently his attitude stunk and he struggled to give senior players the respect they deserved. If this is the case, Hastings will need to address it. With age, however, often comes maturity.

Similarly, family ties gave Lachlan Croker an exacerbated entry into the rugby league sphere. At the same time, though, he dominated in the under 20s for Canberra to such an extent that Ricky Stuart earmarked him as a future star in lime green. High hopes quickly faded as a result of injuries and the stellar form of more senior playmakers in the nation’s capital. Like Hastings, Croker was sent packing without as much as a goodbye.

If reports are to be believed, the nephew of Jason is training the house down at Narrabeen in the hope of finally fulfilling his undoubted potential.

Either one of these players can fill the void left by Blake Green, and the competition between the two can only be beneficial for the club. While Green’s composure will be missed, he wasn’t the heartbeat of the side. His loss should not be fatal.

Remember, Daly Cherry-Evans remains. As do the Trbojevic brothers.

The key for Manly in 2018, however, won’t be any of the aforementioned players.

Enter Shaun Lane. This guy legitimately was the next big thing when he burst onto the scene for Canterbury in 2015. Like the two young halves vying for the number six jumper, though, Lane also disappeared out the back door, shipped off to the Warriors before ending up at Blacktown all in the space of 12 months.

But at 23 that time has arrived. Last season Manly struggled for depth in the back row, and although Lane showed glimpses of his former self late in the year while enjoying an extended stay in the side, deficiencies were still clearly noticeable. Most of these appeared effort related, however, and a full preseason under Trent Barrett’s watchful eye and Dan Ferris’s rigorous training program will surely have the towering back rower primed and ready for Round 1.

If he does kick on, like he can, Manly will foster one of the most formidable back rows in the competition next season.

Staying with the forwards, Addin Fonua-Blake could well finish the year as the competition’s most improved forward. His cameos from the bench were vital at different stages last year, and with greater experience and maturity will inevitably come greater impact. How he didn’t get more game time for a below-par Kiwis side was one of the World Cup’s great mysteries.

Finally, it would be criminal to finish a Sea Eagles yarn without talking adequately about the darlings of the Northern Beaches. In 2018 expect the Trbojevic brothers to become the backbone of both Barrett’s Sea Eagles and Fittler’s Blues. The sky is the limit for these two superstars of our game.

In all, the Manly Warringah Sea Eagles still have the ingredients to make a serious dent in the NRL in 2018. Don’t be bogged down by media innuendo; this is a side on the up.

Nice!

 

[Rosko]

I watched Trent play live three times towards end of last season too and was pleasantly surprised with the quality of his general play. Yes, he's lost a yard of pace, but I thought that his goal-kicking, passing and general play were surprisingly sharp for a player supposedly "finished." The big positive is his cool and calm attitude. Trent H. does not panic and can kick those "important" goals under pressure which no-one in our team can do at present. He's no older than Smith, Cronk and Slater, and if his knees are okay I say "yes" as long as we're not paying top dollar.

He is 5 years younger than those guys! (although perhaps not quite in the same class...)

 

[madmax]

For the tackles morgan and milford missed , more then made up for it with their attack.

Maybe but how many 40/20s did they kick & how many forced line dropouts did they produce?? I think Green did what was expected & gave Manly momentum when needed. In any case I think whoever we get to replace him will do the job. DCE's kicking game wasn't far off Green's so i think we'll be fine with whoever slots into 5/8. I'm wrapped in the players we have & we will be right up there to the end, however my only concern is conversions!! Hence my preferred partner for DCE would be Hastings or Hodkinson with Croker as utility.

 

[The Who]

This was a post in the roar

Right now, Manly are a club in crisis. Apparently.

Apparently the salary cap scandal is disastrous, catastrophic, fatal.

Sure, the eventual penalty may result in the club losing cap space for 2018, which in effect will render the search for a new number six dead and buried. It’s not ideal, but it certainly isn’t the be-all and end-all.

Hear me out.

Both Lachlan Croker and Jackson Hastings were Junior Kangaroos. For different reasons neither has kicked on like most expected them to. That doesn’t mean they’ve forgotten how to play, however.

Let’s remember that the Sydney Roosters, the undisputed kings of roster management and cap manipulation, once released James Maloney to accelerate Hastings development. A few months later Mitchell Pearce got on the drink and Jackson Hastings became the club’s chief playmaker. At 19.

It was a recipe for disaster, and Hastings was shipped out to Manly with little fanfare less than 12 months later. Apparently his attitude stunk and he struggled to give senior players the respect they deserved. If this is the case, Hastings will need to address it. With age, however, often comes maturity.

Similarly, family ties gave Lachlan Croker an exacerbated entry into the rugby league sphere. At the same time, though, he dominated in the under 20s for Canberra to such an extent that Ricky Stuart earmarked him as a future star in lime green. High hopes quickly faded as a result of injuries and the stellar form of more senior playmakers in the nation’s capital. Like Hastings, Croker was sent packing without as much as a goodbye.

If reports are to be believed, the nephew of Jason is training the house down at Narrabeen in the hope of finally fulfilling his undoubted potential.

Either one of these players can fill the void left by Blake Green, and the competition between the two can only be beneficial for the club. While Green’s composure will be missed, he wasn’t the heartbeat of the side. His loss should not be fatal.

Remember, Daly Cherry-Evans remains. As do the Trbojevic brothers.

The key for Manly in 2018, however, won’t be any of the aforementioned players.

Enter Shaun Lane. This guy legitimately was the next big thing when he burst onto the scene for Canterbury in 2015. Like the two young halves vying for the number six jumper, though, Lane also disappeared out the back door, shipped off to the Warriors before ending up at Blacktown all in the space of 12 months.

But at 23 that time has arrived. Last season Manly struggled for depth in the back row, and although Lane showed glimpses of his former self late in the year while enjoying an extended stay in the side, deficiencies were still clearly noticeable. Most of these appeared effort related, however, and a full preseason under Trent Barrett’s watchful eye and Dan Ferris’s rigorous training program will surely have the towering back rower primed and ready for Round 1.

If he does kick on, like he can, Manly will foster one of the most formidable back rows in the competition next season.

Staying with the forwards, Addin Fonua-Blake could well finish the year as the competition’s most improved forward. His cameos from the bench were vital at different stages last year, and with greater experience and maturity will inevitably come greater impact. How he didn’t get more game time for a below-par Kiwis side was one of the World Cup’s great mysteries.

Finally, it would be criminal to finish a Sea Eagles yarn without talking adequately about the darlings of the Northern Beaches. In 2018 expect the Trbojevic brothers to become the backbone of both Barrett’s Sea Eagles and Fittler’s Blues. The sky is the limit for these two superstars of our game.

In all, the Manly Warringah Sea Eagles still have the ingredients to make a serious dent in the NRL in 2018. Don’t be bogged down by media innuendo; this is a side on the up.

Whoever wrote this is a genius or a Silvertails poster. Or both!

 

[40 years an eagle]

Maybe but how many 40/20s did they kick & how many forced line dropouts did they produce?? I think Green did what was expected & gave Manly momentum when needed.

Yes, besides his non-existent running game and sub-ideal defense, Green had the highest repeat set conversion in the comp. This stat should not be undervalued and his replacement being able to replicate it should be of the highest priority.
Repeat sets build and continue momentum and pressure, tire the defending team and rest the attacking forwards. Siege footy at it's basic best.

Green also kicked 2 or more 40/20's. Most halves kicked zero. More siege footy. Another vital ability that needs address with the new half chosen.

Turning around the opposition forwards while giving yours a rest is huge.

A very high-level of general play kicker takes a LOT of attention and pressure off DCE, gives go-forward and is essential.

These reasons are why Green worked and must be replicated.
A good ball-runner would be icing.

 

[HoldenV8]

This was a post in the roar

Right now, Manly are a club in crisis. Apparently.

Apparently the salary cap scandal is disastrous, catastrophic, fatal.

Sure, the eventual penalty may result in the club losing cap space for 2018, which in effect will render the search for a new number six dead and buried. It’s not ideal, but it certainly isn’t the be-all and end-all.

Hear me out.

Both Lachlan Croker and Jackson Hastings were Junior Kangaroos. For different reasons neither has kicked on like most expected them to. That doesn’t mean they’ve forgotten how to play, however.

Let’s remember that the Sydney Roosters, the undisputed kings of roster management and cap manipulation, once released James Maloney to accelerate Hastings development. A few months later Mitchell Pearce got on the drink and Jackson Hastings became the club’s chief playmaker. At 19.

It was a recipe for disaster, and Hastings was shipped out to Manly with little fanfare less than 12 months later. Apparently his attitude stunk and he struggled to give senior players the respect they deserved. If this is the case, Hastings will need to address it. With age, however, often comes maturity.

Similarly, family ties gave Lachlan Croker an exacerbated entry into the rugby league sphere. At the same time, though, he dominated in the under 20s for Canberra to such an extent that Ricky Stuart earmarked him as a future star in lime green. High hopes quickly faded as a result of injuries and the stellar form of more senior playmakers in the nation’s capital. Like Hastings, Croker was sent packing without as much as a goodbye.

If reports are to be believed, the nephew of Jason is training the house down at Narrabeen in the hope of finally fulfilling his undoubted potential.

Either one of these players can fill the void left by Blake Green, and the competition between the two can only be beneficial for the club. While Green’s composure will be missed, he wasn’t the heartbeat of the side. His loss should not be fatal.

Remember, Daly Cherry-Evans remains. As do the Trbojevic brothers.

The key for Manly in 2018, however, won’t be any of the aforementioned players.

Enter Shaun Lane. This guy legitimately was the next big thing when he burst onto the scene for Canterbury in 2015. Like the two young halves vying for the number six jumper, though, Lane also disappeared out the back door, shipped off to the Warriors before ending up at Blacktown all in the space of 12 months.

But at 23 that time has arrived. Last season Manly struggled for depth in the back row, and although Lane showed glimpses of his former self late in the year while enjoying an extended stay in the side, deficiencies were still clearly noticeable. Most of these appeared effort related, however, and a full preseason under Trent Barrett’s watchful eye and Dan Ferris’s rigorous training program will surely have the towering back rower primed and ready for Round 1.

If he does kick on, like he can, Manly will foster one of the most formidable back rows in the competition next season.

Staying with the forwards, Addin Fonua-Blake could well finish the year as the competition’s most improved forward. His cameos from the bench were vital at different stages last year, and with greater experience and maturity will inevitably come greater impact. How he didn’t get more game time for a below-par Kiwis side was one of the World Cup’s great mysteries.

Finally, it would be criminal to finish a Sea Eagles yarn without talking adequately about the darlings of the Northern Beaches. In 2018 expect the Trbojevic brothers to become the backbone of both Barrett’s Sea Eagles and Fittler’s Blues. The sky is the limit for these two superstars of our game.

In all, the Manly Warringah Sea Eagles still have the ingredients to make a serious dent in the NRL in 2018. Don’t be bogged down by media innuendo; this is a side on the up.

Nothing we didn't already know really.

 

[Ben]

Has anyone thought that Hodkinson may be just an insurance buy in case DCE gets injured? Because as it stands, after Cherry we don't have much in the way of first grade experience in the halves outside of Hastings and Walker.

Everyone is saying that we want him to partner DCE in first grade and that is plausible. But an experienced hand as a backup wouldn't be a bad thing.

In saying that, yes I do think we're trying to get him to play first grade (considering we were also after Carney that's how it does appear). But who knows, maybe Baz has already decided on Hastings or Croker anyway?

IMO there is no way we are looking to bring him in to start at Blacktown. We already showed our cards by showing interest in Moylan, Pearce and Carney so our target is defiantly an experienced half to partner DCE. Hastings and Crocker I believe will play at Blacktown untill needed as I'm sure they will be.
It's great to see we finally have some quality depth through out the squad. A very exciting 2018 to say the least.

 

[Ben]

Reported on fox sports that we are not confident we can fit Hodko in our cap this year. Apparently we crunched the numbers this week with all things considered and not looking good.
Seems to me we are preparing as if we will go into 2018 with reduced cap as punishment from the NRL.
Can still go either way but if we do miss Hodko this will open the door for a hungry Cocker or Hastings. Both these guys will do the job

 

[master blaster]

Reported on fox sports that we are not confident we can fit Hodko in our cap next year. Apparently we crunched the numbers this week with all things considered and not looking good.
Seems to me we are preparing as if we will go into 2018 with reduced cap as punishment from the NRL.
Can still go either way but if we do miss Hodko this will open the door for a hungry Cocker or Hastings. Both these guys will do the job

What I dont understand is,Why waste money on fighting this if we dont have proof or evidence that we did nothing wrong, it doesn't make sense to me. Surely they must have something

 

[Ben]

What I dont understand is,Why waste money on fighting this if we dont have proof or evidence that we did nothing wrong, it doesn't make sense to me. Surely they must have something

Who bloody knows what's going on. The end of Jan is our deadline to respond so time will tell I guess.