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"Let's be honest the current approach is turning many people away from membership. No one likes being berated"

Agree with that comment 110%

Which is why we are doing our best (as amateurs) to open the lines of communication and I think for that... WE shouldn't be berated.
 
I'm an amateur. All up until I'm lying in bed with my lady.....and she reckons I'm a pro !!

YIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYI !!

Lighten up, one and all.

Oh, and if anyone would like to VIEW said professional scene, contact the club, tickets are $85- per session. Be quick, tickets are flying out the door !
 
Mark from Brisbane link said:
\"Let's be honest the current approach is turning many people away from membership. No one likes being berated\"

Agree with that comment 110%

Which is why we are doing our best (as amateurs) to open the lines of communication and I think for that... WE shouldn't be berated.

It's a two-way street though Mark. Though someone will need to be the bigger person in it, and I would say it likely needs to be anyone with an official side.

I think the problem is that as a whole, and I know it is difficult not to be like this, but Vidmar and yourself jump on the defensive too much. This can be off putting.

The sad truth is that people's opinions are hard to change, and once you step into a debate with them, you are only likely going to reinforce their opinion and view.

It is probably better to acknowledge and move on without entering into a defensive debate.

Human nature just sucks right?
 
Ryan link said:
I'm an amateur. All up until I'm lying in bed with my lady.....and she reckons I'm a pro !!

YIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYI !!

Lighten up, one and all.

Oh, and if anyone would like to VIEW said professional scene, contact the club, tickets are $85- per session. Be quick, tickets are flying out the door !
is advertising midget porn allowed at silvertails dan???????????
 
Cambo link said:
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=184190.msg277255#msg277255 date=1279760702]
I'm an amateur. All up until I'm lying in bed with my lady.....and she reckons I'm a pro !!

YIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYI !!

Lighten up, one and all.

Oh, and if anyone would like to VIEW said professional scene, contact the club, tickets are $85- per session. Be quick, tickets are flying out the door !
is advertising midget porn allowed at silvertails dan???????????
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Ryan once told me about his efforts in filming himself during coitus, shall i share that story Ryan?
 
Dan link said:
[quote author=Cambo link=topic=184190.msg277269#msg277269 date=1279761716]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=184190.msg277255#msg277255 date=1279760702]
I'm an amateur. All up until I'm lying in bed with my lady.....and she reckons I'm a pro !!

YIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYI !!

Lighten up, one and all.

Oh, and if anyone would like to VIEW said professional scene, contact the club, tickets are $85- per session. Be quick, tickets are flying out the door !
is advertising midget porn allowed at silvertails dan???????????
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Ryan once told me about his efforts in filming himself during coitus, shall i share that story Ryan?
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hahaa coitus
i love that word its so sheldon its like bahzinga :)
 
Dan, others...I have no problem with people having an opinion and expressing it in spirited debate and I am way past worrying about personal attacks.

That said, it is all well and good expressing an opinion or being critical but to then disregard facts that dispute points put forward and resort to personal sniping should not be supported or condoned in my opinion so sorry we will have to agree to disagree on that aspect.

Just have people have the right to post negative things I also have the right to correct them when points that they post are blatantly not true or have no factual backing.

It is not about being defensive - it's about balancing the myths with facts...Whether we like it or not forums like this will shape some peoples perceptions so best we balance out any misconceptions?

Yes, there are many things that the club can be doing better and yes there are some disenfranchised members and supporters and I am not blind to that and agree with many people that have been in contact with me with constructive and valid points.

I and many others are doing what we can to improve things - There are countless people behind the scenes who contribute enormous amounts of time (yourself included) in volunteering and doing their bit as best they can to support the team and the club.

My point in asking if Jerry and reyam were members is that they were so vocal in what was wrong with the club I wanted to see what they were doing to get involved and help make it right?

Whinging is all well and good but achieves naught - if you are members take the opportunity to communicate with the club, if not PM or come and find me at the game with any ideas that you have that you think will help?

At the Souths game I was introduced to a guy from interstate who has a very credible business and management background who was interested in speaking to the club to offer some ideas.

He has since met with Graham Lowe and the discussions were (from what I was told) very productive - so get involved rather than just sniping from the sidelines?
 
Fair enough vidmar, but do you think Manly Fans respond well to the constant spin?
 
vidmar link said:
Dan, others...I have no problem with people having an opinion and expressing it in spirited debate and I am way past worrying about personal attacks.

That said, it is all well and good expressing an opinion or being critical but to then disregard facts that dispute points put forward and resort to personal sniping should not be supported or condoned in my opinion so sorry we will have to agree to disagree on that aspect.

Just have people have the right to post negative things I also have the right to correct them when points that they post are blatantly not true or have no factual backing.

It is not about being defensive - it's about balancing the myths with facts...Whether we like it or not forums like this will shape some peoples perceptions so best we balance out any misconceptions?

Yes, there are many things that the club can be doing better and yes there are some disenfranchised members and supporters and I am not blind to that and agree with many people that have been in contact with me with constructive and valid points.

I and many others are doing what we can to improve things - There are countless people behind the scenes who contribute enormous amounts of time (yourself included) in volunteering and doing their bit as best they can to support the team and the club.

My point in asking if Jerry and reyam were members is that they were so vocal in what was wrong with the club I wanted to see what they were doing to get involved and help make it right?

Whinging is all well and good but achieves naught - if you are members take the opportunity to communicate with the club, if not PM or come and find me at the game with any ideas that you have that you think will help?

At the Souths game I was introduced to a guy from interstate who has a very credible business and management background who was interested in speaking to the club to offer some ideas.

He has since met with Graham Lowe and the discussions were (from what I was told) very productive - so get involved rather than just sniping from the sidelines?
not getting involved in this
but for the record
Jerry must be a member because he posted at mwse i remember him because he was a rexhunt who bagged ox at every chance
 
Spin is attibuted to "A person who publicises favorable interpretations of the words and actions of a public figure, especially a politican." - not applicable to responding to and correcting people who post things that are not true?

Agree, we need to move on....so will sign off now and get back to my paying job
 
Oh lets split hairs.

Vidmar that is precisely what I am talking about.
Do you think that kind of thing "speaks" to the regular fan that you are trying to convince?
 
Cambo link said:
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=184190.msg277255#msg277255 date=1279760702]
I'm an amateur. All up until I'm lying in bed with my lady.....and she reckons I'm a pro !!

YIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYI !!

Lighten up, one and all.

Oh, and if anyone would like to VIEW said professional scene, contact the club, tickets are $85- per session. Be quick, tickets are flying out the door !
is advertising midget porn allowed at silvertails dan???????????
[/quote]

Nah man, my missus is pretty tall....It's more like the below:-
(and TELL me you wouldn't love it !!)

022_amazon-women-in-the-mood.jpg
 
Ryan link said:
[quote author=Cambo link=topic=184190.msg277269#msg277269 date=1279761716]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=184190.msg277255#msg277255 date=1279760702]
I'm an amateur. All up until I'm lying in bed with my lady.....and she reckons I'm a pro !!

YIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYI !!

Lighten up, one and all.

Oh, and if anyone would like to VIEW said professional scene, contact the club, tickets are $85- per session. Be quick, tickets are flying out the door !
is advertising midget porn allowed at silvertails dan???????????
[/quote]

Nah man, my missus is pretty tall....It's more like the below:-
(and TELL me you wouldn't love it !!)

022_amazon-women-in-the-mood.jpg



[/quote]

HAHAHA

SHNOO SHNOO
 
Looks like Jerry and I have something in common Cambo.  A footie brain perhaps?  He should just desist with the homo stuff, oh yeah, and bagging the club.. 
 
vidmar link said:
[quote author=Jerry1 link=topic=184190.msg277103#msg277103 date=1279712346]
[quote author=Shane link=topic=184190.msg277099#msg277099 date=1279711816]
[quote author=Jerry1 link=topic=184190.msg277059#msg277059 date=1279706498]
[quote author=Kiwi Eagle link=topic=184190.msg277043#msg277043 date=1279700589]
Yea mate, I want a go, stick them up !!

I shall humour you

How is the club in so much trouble after 6 months of Lowe if Mayer was such a messiah of a CEO ? Surely all the amazing work he did couldn't have been undone in 6 months ?
We had sponsors under Mayor - won a premiership under Mayer.

What has Mr. Lowe done for us so far.




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Weak minded fool,look at the AAA Radiators on the sleeve of the jersey? or are your elton john glasses on?
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That may be the case but I haven;t read any press release on MSWE site.

Also you say sleeve sponsor - who is the major jersey sponsor.

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http://www.sportspromedia.com/deals/_a/sea_eagles_boosted_by_six-figure_partnership/


http://www.sportspromedia.com/deals/_a/manly_sea_eagles_sign_new_jersey_sponsor/

Back of shirt sponsor confirmed for 2011 (to be announced towards the end of the season - there are reasons why it can't be announced at present)

Quantum are still shirt sponsors until the end of the season (Have a look on Sunday Jerry and you'll see...it's true, honest!)

The club is in discussion with at least 2 possible major sponsors for front of shirt for 2011 season...be silly to say who they are until it is confirmed wouldn't you think?

Sorry reyam your arguments don't hold water.....or does your "inside" knowledge not cover positives?
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Just thinking about our possible sponsers, 1 wouldn't happen to be a NZ based co would it? This would have been one of the reasons to introduce the NZ TV deal.
 
be nice if mark had  the money  ambassador holidays  on front of jersey lol
 
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