Bye Trent

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  1. Woodsie

    By:WoodsieJan 11, 2019
    played strong, done good.

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    Ryan, if I can jump in on that .... the short answer is, that the blokes at the club paying your wages are not happy with the currennt situation and obviously feel that you are incapable of turning it around ... so much so that they are prepared to pay out over a million to get rid of you ...

    That said, professional coaching is a complex endeavour, and many things have to come together for success to be achieved, many of those things are beyond a coaches ability to influence ...... being the best coach with the best players is not a guarantee of success ... For example the great Jack Gibson was a world beater at Parra ..... couldn't get those sharkies to win a barrier draw ....

    You need a professional front office prepared to give the football dept. , ever asset and advantage at their disposal, talented and experienced support staff, a first rate roster, you need a good run with injuries, a harmonious playing group without personality conflicts or cliches, motivated depth players, a reasonable schedule, a fair run from the refs, minimum off field dramas and distradtions, probably 10 other things and a lot of luck,

    having said all that, Des is a first rate coah, and is smart enough to realise coaching isn't a one man band .... at Manly he has , surrounded himself with quality help and top draw staff .... he will be able to concentrate on the big picture and the small details and let his staff handle everything in between. He has done the first thing ... prepared for success .....
     
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    • Ralphie

      By:RalphieJan 11, 2019
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      I am fast getting quite turned off Silvertails by this sort of attitude. The Forum has become combative and there seems to be one poster that is always in the thick of it. I hardly ever post these days for that reason. I even PM'd one of the combative posters on here to try to reset and alter any misunderstandings and get things somewhere towards a civil discussion but that went unanswered, which with the benefit of hindsight I should not have been surprised by.

      I have been reluctant to use the ignore button because it really doesn't work when posts appear that a replying to some aggressive condescending post and it is just easier not to.

      This off season is the worst I can recall in my years on this Board.

      Edit: Have a great weekend all, I'm off to pickup my new Mustang and head for the Great Ocean Road for a bit of a road trip.
       
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      • highlandeagle

        By:highlandeagleJan 11, 2019
        Still hating Gallop and now Greenslime

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        Hey Woodsie have you had a head knock in the past hour?
         
      • Woodsie

        By:WoodsieJan 11, 2019
        played strong, done good.

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        No ... possibly you have actually taken the time to read what I have written rather than what you think I have written ....
         
      • MuzztheEagle

        By:MuzztheEagleJan 11, 2019
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        Great idea, see it before it washes away:
        https://www.theage.com.au/national/...at-risk-from-surging-sea-20190110-p50qjb.html
        and be careful not to fall off :) .....or get run into by some idiot admiring the view
        [​IMG]
         
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        • Smokin Joe

          By:Smokin JoeJan 11, 2019
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          I am not sure what planet you live on,but you seem happy.If you think I over reacted then that is how you choose to take it.You were intending to mock Snake and if you refuse to accept that,then you are probably telling porkies.Telling me that I might die of a heart attack and then not thinking I would respond in kind......(you get what you give Bozo)Anyway,we were going back and forth and then out of the blue you try to introduce something you said to another person as part of our conversation,it is a little like arguing whether the weather is hot or cold today in Sydney and then saying that it is hot in Lebanon today,therefore it is hot today to back up your argument.I love a lot of your input and your passion Bozo,but trying to have a discussion with you is like playing chess with a pigeon....
           
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          • Kevinward777

            By:Kevinward777Jan 11, 2019
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            The first sentence of this post, regarding long winded self justifying statements that ultimately cause the writer to miss the point... is a very good one.
             
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            • Zimbalist

              By:ZimbalistJan 11, 2019
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              Being a dill is contagious, be careful
               
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              • Ryan

                By:RyanJan 11, 2019
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                Guys, can I just reconfirm something about my stance on the coaching situation (not that it really means anything hehehe).

                * I think I might be misconstruing my stance a little.

                Personally, I feel we've gone from a beaten up 2016 Datsun 120B(arrett), back to a classic 2011 Bentley Twin Turbo V12 HybriD(es) in Des.

                The upgrade is outstanding. I'm seriously over the moon. Barrett annoyed and frustrated the heck out of me.

                The caoching staff, the support staff, the CEO, all the club's infrastructure is looking so much better.

                The legacy Barrett has left behind talent wise (especially in our backline is pretty Teflon).

                The reason I shelled out another half a grand plus for my season ticket is that I'm really excited and plugged in, something I wasn't when Barrett and his chronies were here.
                 
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                • Eagle of London

                  By:Eagle of LondonJan 11, 2019
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                  But if as you say 'let's keep on topic' why bring Des into it?
                  I will point out again Des was a gold plated Winner with us and the Bullfrogs for a time. I see no justification in comparing a winner's use of the bench to a loosers use of the bench. If TB had not used his bench properly and had a winning record then good for him. He didn't so he was pushed to the side.

                  Finally you wrote

                  ' and I wonder how bright some of you are ' your Honour I rest my case.
                   
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                  • Frogz

                    By:FrogzJan 11, 2019
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                    Hasnt this Trent fwit gone alreday. close the page....He is a garden gnome now.....
                     
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                    • EagleFlys

                      By:EagleFlysJan 11, 2019
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                      I wish off season would end.
                       
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                      • Zimbalist

                        By:ZimbalistJan 11, 2019
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                        Don’t engage....you will be disappointed....
                         
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                        • eaglebuzz

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                          I need to stop opening these threads with the expectation that a page and a half of new posts might actually contain something on topic and worth reading.

                          If all you people have to do on here is talk about irrelevant crap and attack each other you need to develop a more well rounded personal life.
                           
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                          • BOZO

                            By:BOZOJan 12, 2019
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                            I found Snakes post funny and I reacted in that way. What was so funny ? His quote that Trent has a lot to offer . That is the way I saw it and reacted and you over reacted as far as I am concerned . Why ? This is why ....
                            There is a thing called perception and you took it upon to see your self as a guru on reading peoples minds .
                            As far as playing chess with a pigeon you are referring to the wrong guy because I am a Sea eagle every day of the week !
                            Trent has a lot to offer ? Bloody hilarious and I still cant help from laughing LOL .
                            If you @Smokin Joe also think Trent still has a lot to offer your very very funny as well !
                             
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                          • BOZO

                            By:BOZOJan 12, 2019
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                            The funny thing is that some one here think he has a lot to offer and when you tell them how ridiculous and funny this is they get offended .
                             
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                            Professional front office Woodsie ? Our board and office was a busket case when Des won comps .
                            At its peak of turmoil it was quoted as the most dysfunctional in Australian sport !
                            Unlike Trent, Des did not use this as a distraction or excuse .

                            I agree Des was smart enough to surround him self with quality people unlike Trent who disengage him self from the one and only Incomparable Immortal . Now that was dumb.
                            Very dumb and it is known that this was his down fall as he was lost on his own and his solo last disastrous year vindicated this

                            As far as the rotation of the bench goes when you are winning games as Des did there is less incentive to use the bench as far as Trent goes when you are losing games there is more incentive to use the bench and add and create some direction. Direction was not part of Trents repertoire but only excuses was


                            Every way you look at him . Trent was a failure. To the few that think other wise this is laughable !

                            Manly Sea Eagles: Inside the most dysfunctional boardroom in Australian sport
                            Dean Ritchie, DailyTelegraph
                             
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                            • BOZO

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                              Good post feathered friend . At the end of the day all of us are happier when Manly are winning and I am sure Des will put back the smile on our faces .
                               
                            • BOZO

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                              I say Engage ! Expression is what makes a forum great . Once we lose the right to express our views the forum becomes predictable it loses character, eliminates its passion and becomes boring .
                              Go for it !
                               
                            • Moops

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                              But, then again, Woodsie might ask how many premierships had Des won after 3 years? (for the record, I don't rate Barrett either...sorry Woodsie).
                               
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