2020 Finals discussion thread

Hows Eels now - down a heap of outside backs including Sivo and Ferguson.....if they were already in big trouble out wide against a flying Rabbits team, but now in huge trouble...and I love it.....the Russell Crowe glory glory stuff makes me sick and still hopeful Penrith or Raiders win, but absolutely hate the Eels so tough as it is - Im cheering Souths tonight!!
 
HoldenV8 said:
Goes back to what I said the other day. The 6 again rule was brought in for nothing more than television ratings at a time when live sport was not on television due to the pandemic.

V'Landys has been good for the game in the most part. But the 6 again rule has NOT been a good thing.
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Agree totally.

I've been thinking all year that the needle has moved too far the other way.

By that I mean for years the defence was dominating the attack due to all the wrestle and holding down the players were allowed to get away with. There was minimal fatigue because defences were getting little mini-breaks and then they introduced the 25 second limit on scrums and dropouts when teams weren't actually milking in this area to begin with. They only started after the rule got introduced.

But fast forward to today and the 6-again rule. Now attacks are running over defences and we are seeing possession percentages that are more skewed than ever before. And we wonder why we are seeing blowouts ? Please. I'm surprised we're not seeing more.

If we just compare this year and last.

In 2019, 60 points were scored in a match 8 times.

In 2020, with significantly fewer matches, 60 points have been racked up 15 times.

I'm not suggesting we go back to the wrestle. But can we just try and give defending teams a chance and not turn it into quasi-touch football ?

Just because a bunch of points aren't scored doesn't make it boring. The semi final against the Rorters where it was 4 - 0 is a classic example.
 
Hopefully Rabbits crush the Eels and then Penrith beat the in form bunnies next week. Leaving Raiders to beat Penrith. Raiders will likely decline a little next season and deserve revenge for last year's rort. Penrith are going to be pretty similar next season, so prefer they don't win this year in case they do next year
 
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Shoe1 said:
After Robinson’s interview last night I’m not sure if it is what it is. Is it what it is? Or maybe it isn’t what it is.
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You mean Beetrooster (aka Trentaby Joyce), aka Pineapple Face.

We can only wish this heralds a slow decline for the Goosters, to their rightful place amongst the also-rans.
 
simon64 said:
Agree totally.

I've been thinking all year that the needle has moved too far the other way.

By that I mean for years the defence was dominating the attack due to all the wrestle and holding down the players were allowed to get away with. There was minimal fatigue because defences were getting little mini-breaks and then they introduced the 25 second limit on scrums and dropouts when teams weren't actually milking in this area to begin with. They only started after the rule got introduced.

But fast forward to today and the 6-again rule. Now attacks are running over defences and we are seeing possession percentages that are more skewed than ever before. And we wonder why we are seeing blowouts ? Please. I'm surprised we're not seeing more.

If we just compare this year and last.

In 2019, 60 points were scored in a match 8 times.

In 2020, with significantly fewer matches, 60 points have been racked up 15 times.

I'm not suggesting we go back to the wrestle. But can we just try and give defending teams a chance and not turn it into quasi-touch football ?

Just because a bunch of points aren't scored doesn't make it boring. The semi final against the Rorters where it was 4 - 0 is a classic example.
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All of it comes from the 10m rule. The need to wrestle to give the defence time.

Frank Hyde had it right when the 10m rule came in. He said they always had a 10m rule, being defence and attack both being back 5m from the play the ball which = 10m. They brought in a 10m rule as they gave up officiating the rules that were already there.

In 2021 the NRL should trial a game with 2 referees, with one back 5m from the play the ball for the defence, and one back 5m for the attack. It would get rid of the need to wrestle, stop 'flat' passes at dummy half and mindless hit ups. The attack would need to spread the ball.

The dumbest thing about the 10m rule is that it supposedly helpls the little guys against the big guys. As Sterlo has said, that is rubbish. Now the half back under the 10m rule has to run further to engage with the defenders and put on a move.

Look at this ball movement in 1979 under the 5m rule almost every tackle in the set. Compare it to each tackle in a set of six today.

(Rex's lecture at 6m30s on the Fibros vs Silvertails is priceless!)

 
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simon64 said:
Agree totally.

I've been thinking all year that the needle has moved too far the other way.

By that I mean for years the defence was dominating the attack due to all the wrestle and holding down the players were allowed to get away with. There was minimal fatigue because defences were getting little mini-breaks and then they introduced the 25 second limit on scrums and dropouts when teams weren't actually milking in this area to begin with. They only started after the rule got introduced.

But fast forward to today and the 6-again rule. Now attacks are running over defences and we are seeing possession percentages that are more skewed than ever before. And we wonder why we are seeing blowouts ? Please. I'm surprised we're not seeing more.

If we just compare this year and last.

In 2019, 60 points were scored in a match 8 times.

In 2020, with significantly fewer matches, 60 points have been racked up 15 times.

I'm not suggesting we go back to the wrestle. But can we just try and give defending teams a chance and not turn it into quasi-touch football ?

Just because a bunch of points aren't scored doesn't make it boring. The semi final against the Rorters where it was 4 - 0 is a classic example.
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That Semi against the Chooks, although we lost was one of the most absorbing contests ever. For 80 minutes both teams literally threw everything they could at each other in attack and defence.

Unfortunately though, in the quest for TV ratings, the powers that be these days seem to forget that great defence is often better to watch than a team strolling over the line every 5 minutes. High scores to me aren't a great contest, even if both teams are scoring (even worse when its a complete blowout ... unless we're doing the scoring that is 😛 ).

They need to find that ever elusive happy medium and to do that I think some of the things that go under the 6 again heading should revert to being a penalty (the only questions is, what gets a penalty and what can still be 6 again??). And personally I think referees should have to specify what the ruling is for because just calling 6 again with no explanation or call is just too confusing for everyone.
 
I think we could quite possibly see a MASSIVE scoreline tonight.

What was that score last year 56-0

Could go past 60 tonight.

And expect lots of tears from the Queen.
 
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Come on Souffs. Lap them.

Then I want to see shots of the Squeels fans balling. :rofl:
 
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