Tom Trbojevic destined to be one of the greats

Frustrates me that Melbourne lose Harry Grant, and Brandon Smith slots in. In our team, a Hooker goes down (for whatever reason) he's replaced with a half (for THREE years!!!)
Part of this has been caused by the uncertainty around Manase with the trial delayed by covid - initially 2020, then 2021 & now 2022. Till this year, Manase was contracted for a reasonable sum (maybe 400k per year), but with the stand down policy maybe this was not included in the salary cap? In 2020, we hired Levi as a replacement, but this didn't work out. Croker exceeded most people's expectations last year & with him, we made the third week of the finals. In 2021, Lawton was bought as a dummy half/utility & had a very good season. His games in the backrow were excellent. However, it is only in the last game v Knights that he impressed me playing dummy half. It appears he is a 'smarter' dummy half than Croker. For the time being, I don't mind this combo. We have given Segeyaro a lifeline - it will be up to him whether he can make it back to the NRL. Also, I am very hopeful that Gordie will develop into an NRL dummy half. Meanwhile, we are all hopeful that Manase is found not guilty. If he is able to play & regain anything like his previous form, he will be amongst the elite dummy halves in the comp.

IMO, the main players who are on overs at present are Jake (900k) & Marty (850k?). It appears Marty will be leaving at the end of the season & this will free up a huge chunk of salary cap (probably needed to tie up some of our younger players for longer).
 
Probably been posted but the nrl physio said that Turbos injury wasn’t a complete mcl rupture. It actually tore bone away rather than effect the integrity of the ligament.

He said that is a much better mcl injury and would be easier to repair and to heal.
That’s interesting. I had a similar ankle injury, a fracture of the talus which is a bone on top of the foot at the front, attached to an ankle ligament. I just needed a boot for 3 weeks, and the bone reattached fine. The dr said it would have been a harder recovery if the ligament had gone instead.
 
Part of this has been caused by the uncertainty around Manase with the trial delayed by covid - initially 2020, then 2021 & now 2022. Till this year, Manase was contracted for a reasonable sum (maybe 400k per year), but with the stand down policy maybe this was not included in the salary cap? In 2020, we hired Levi as a replacement, but this didn't work out. Croker exceeded most people's expectations last year & with him, we made the third week of the finals. In 2021, Lawton was bought as a dummy half/utility & had a very good season. His games in the backrow were excellent. However, it is only in the last game v Knights that he impressed me playing dummy half. It appears he is a 'smarter' dummy half than Croker. For the time being, I don't mind this combo. We have given Segeyaro a lifeline - it will be up to him whether he can make it back to the NRL. Also, I am very hopeful that Gordie will develop into an NRL dummy half. Meanwhile, we are all hopeful that Manase is found not guilty. If he is able to play & regain anything like his previous form, he will be amongst the elite dummy halves in the comp.

IMO, the main players who are on overs at present are Jake (900k) & Marty (850k?). It appears Marty will be leaving at the end of the season & this will free up a huge chunk of salary cap (probably needed to tie up some of our younger players for longer).

All very true mate. Here's how it stands for me:

Fullback: One regularly injured fullback. His replacement is a winger, so we need depth)

Wing: We are okay. Centres / Wingers are interchangeable. We have Garrick, Saab, Taufua, Tuipulotu and Koula who could all play wing.

Centre: we have Tuipulotu , Parker, Harper, Walker, Koula who could all play centre. Given the depth, I think we could make a tough decision and lose one or two (one being possibly the best of the lot is already going in Walker). I'd keep Koula, Saab, Garrick and look for a Jamie Lyonesque centre to partner Koula.

Five Eight: We are good there. We have both Schuster and Foz, with Weekes coming through who I think is amazing. I do think Fox may retire at season's end ( unfortunately).

Halfback: Well DCE is here for another half a decade now, so. Hopefully Humphries remains, but we also have Croker and Cust Jas an option to return, so we don't need further investment there.

Prop: We have Boyle , Sipley, Keppie, Taupau, Aloiai, Paseka and Bullemor if required. Four generally get a run. I think Jake should go to prop, and Schuster to lock to speed up our team a bit though. For that reason I'd probably lose 2/3 props. I'd say Taupau is going at season's end. I think we should cut Boyle. This again would add more space.

Hooker: We have Fainu (who may never play again), Croker (a half), and Lawton playing backrow mostly. The issue is here we have no plan B. I'd have cut Fainu, cut Croker and go with Mahoney or something, but the Dogs snagged him. Or get Koroisou to return, but he's off to the Tigers. This is a huge recruitment fail (in my opinion) and is the sole reason we can't beat good teams.

Backrow / lock: We have Olakau'atu, Schuster, Jake, Bullemor and Davey. As I mentioned, I'd retain all, but move Jake to prop. Walkers gone next season, so I do hope we return to a more traditional bench (1 utility, 2 props, 1 backrower). I also hope that means Lawton to 9 permantlty if we don't get a plan B, with Weekes on the bench (playing a Walker role of required).

Therefore, next season, I think we may be without Taupau, Walker, Boyle, Taufua, Fainu (possibly), Foran. We should lose one of Harper / Parker. Not sure Croker is required any longer. I'm also pretty sure no other team.wpuod pick him up as a Hooker. I'd re-sign Davey to a 2 year deal. The salary cap is again increasing.

The focus should be this, and in this order:
1. Marquee hooker (may be sorted after court);
2. Fullback depth (I'm looking Dragons way)
3. Marquee centre (admittedly Tuipulotus game changed my mind on that. He looks beast. So does Koula (who defended extremely well, which is what some suggested was his weakness).

DCE has reportedly taken a decent paycut. I hope Tom does (due to his health status) and Jake (given his contract is a bit of an albatross).

Lastly, thank you for debating / discussing in a healthy way. I appreciate it, as it's a marked difference from what's becoming the norm. I'm sorry if the grammar and spelling is off, but Frenchs Forest is having its fortnightly blackout and I'm on my phone.
 
Not sure where I read it guys, so must of been in another thread, someone commented that Tommy turned up for training on the Monday after the Raiders game but was told he might have to have a opp, so wasn't allowed to train. If this was the case, maybe nowhere near as bad as some are making out.
 
The focus should be this, and in this order:
1. Marquee hooker (may be sorted after court);
2. Fullback depth (I'm looking Dragons way)
3. Marquee centre (admittedly Tuipulotus game changed my mind on that. He looks beast. So does Koula (who defended extremely well, which is what some suggested was his weakness).
I agree with the theme of your post, except I don't think we need to seek fullback depth. It appears Koula & Weekes are being groomed as Turbo's deputies and I would prefer they are given opportunities rather than import a fullback. Hopefully, this will begin this week against the Titans with Koula again being selected as fullback. Sloan (Saints) is a great prospect, but would he or Savage (Raiders) want to join another club if they weren't guaranteed the first grade role?

I don't think the club will seek a top flight hooker until Fainu's situation is clear. IMO, he is a marquee hooker, who if cleared, can help take the team to the next level.

I would guess both Tuipulotu & Koula have more natural ability than the incumbent centres, so hopefully over time, they can develop and become the NRL centre pairing. I would be happy with this combination - one a strong robust runner & the other a speed machine.

In your squad for your next year, you've forgotten to include Burbo & Tuilagi as back rowers. I would be happy for some of the players you mention to move on, including Boyle (off contract end of this year) whose squad place could be taken by De Luis. We also have Tuitavake as a front row prospect.
 
Part of this has been caused by the uncertainty around Manase with the trial delayed by covid - initially 2020, then 2021 & now 2022. Till this year, Manase was contracted for a reasonable sum (maybe 400k per year), but with the stand down policy maybe this was not included in the salary cap? In 2020, we hired Levi as a replacement, but this didn't work out. Croker exceeded most people's expectations last year & with him, we made the third week of the finals. In 2021, Lawton was bought as a dummy half/utility & had a very good season. His games in the backrow were excellent. However, it is only in the last game v Knights that he impressed me playing dummy half. It appears he is a 'smarter' dummy half than Croker. For the time being, I don't mind this combo. We have given Segeyaro a lifeline - it will be up to him whether he can make it back to the NRL. Also, I am very hopeful that Gordie will develop into an NRL dummy half. Meanwhile, we are all hopeful that Manase is found not guilty. If he is able to play & regain anything like his previous form, he will be amongst the elite dummy halves in the comp.

IMO, the main players who are on overs at present are Jake (900k) & Marty (850k?). It appears Marty will be leaving at the end of the season & this will free up a huge chunk of salary cap (probably needed to tie up some of our younger players for longer).
Risking our future on Manase Fainu did not make sense in 2020 and is simply insane now.
 
You would think that Manly are a one-man team, the way that Turbo is talked about in the media (and occasionally on Silvertails).

No doubt he's awesome, but there's been a lot of Chicken Little's 'the sky is falling' type of talk around an absence that will probably be 4 to 5 weeks.

Will we see the same sort of talk around Latrine Mitchell's 8-week absence from the Bunnies?

 
You would think that Manly are a one-man team, the way that Turbo is talked about in the media (and occasionally on Silvertails).

No doubt he's awesome, but there's been a lot of Chicken Little's 'the sky is falling' type of talk around an absence that will probably be 4 to 5 weeks.

Will we see the same sort of talk around Latrine Mitchell's 8-week absence from the Bunnies?

Exactly, coupled with the fact they are still getting use to not having Reynolds, Gaiguy and whoever else, arguably Mitchell's absence be a great harder for them to overcome than ours with Turbo.
Even if we win the next 4 of 5 without him, they will still trumpet how we will struggle without the Turbo team:banghead:
 
All very true mate. Here's how it stands for me:

Fullback: One regularly injured fullback. His replacement is a winger, so we need depth)

Wing: We are okay. Centres / Wingers are interchangeable. We have Garrick, Saab, Taufua, Tuipulotu and Koula who could all play wing.

Centre: we have Tuipulotu , Parker, Harper, Walker, Koula who could all play centre. Given the depth, I think we could make a tough decision and lose one or two (one being possibly the best of the lot is already going in Walker). I'd keep Koula, Saab, Garrick and look for a Jamie Lyonesque centre to partner Koula.

Five Eight: We are good there. We have both Schuster and Foz, with Weekes coming through who I think is amazing. I do think Fox may retire at season's end ( unfortunately).

Halfback: Well DCE is here for another half a decade now, so. Hopefully Humphries remains, but we also have Croker and Cust Jas an option to return, so we don't need further investment there.

Prop: We have Boyle , Sipley, Keppie, Taupau, Aloiai, Paseka and Bullemor if required. Four generally get a run. I think Jake should go to prop, and Schuster to lock to speed up our team a bit though. For that reason I'd probably lose 2/3 props. I'd say Taupau is going at season's end. I think we should cut Boyle. This again would add more space.

Hooker: We have Fainu (who may never play again), Croker (a half), and Lawton playing backrow mostly. The issue is here we have no plan B. I'd have cut Fainu, cut Croker and go with Mahoney or something, but the Dogs snagged him. Or get Koroisou to return, but he's off to the Tigers. This is a huge recruitment fail (in my opinion) and is the sole reason we can't beat good teams.

Backrow / lock: We have Olakau'atu, Schuster, Jake, Bullemor and Davey. As I mentioned, I'd retain all, but move Jake to prop. Walkers gone next season, so I do hope we return to a more traditional bench (1 utility, 2 props, 1 backrower). I also hope that means Lawton to 9 permantlty if we don't get a plan B, with Weekes on the bench (playing a Walker role of required).

Therefore, next season, I think we may be without Taupau, Walker, Boyle, Taufua, Fainu (possibly), Foran. We should lose one of Harper / Parker. Not sure Croker is required any longer. I'm also pretty sure no other team.wpuod pick him up as a Hooker. I'd re-sign Davey to a 2 year deal. The salary cap is again increasing.

The focus should be this, and in this order:
1. Marquee hooker (may be sorted after court);
2. Fullback depth (I'm looking Dragons way)
3. Marquee centre (admittedly Tuipulotus game changed my mind on that. He looks beast. So does Koula (who defended extremely well, which is what some suggested was his weakness).

DCE has reportedly taken a decent paycut. I hope Tom does (due to his health status) and Jake (given his contract is a bit of an albatross).

Lastly, thank you for debating / discussing in a healthy way. I appreciate it, as it's a marked difference from what's becoming the norm. I'm sorry if the grammar and spelling is off, but Frenchs Forest is having its fortnightly blackout and I'm on my phone.
I'd be inclined to think Koula is seen as first string fullback depth judging by his selection last week. He has made every post a winner and Garrick has now proven a solid option.

Not sure who you are looking at at the Dragons? Sloan looks decent but still raw (I'd take Koula as a better prospect). Mbye is absolutely not a fullback nor is Ramsey who is very overrated IMO.

Marquee hooker would be great, very much agree but atm there are very few across the league and none are currently available.

The Tom and Jake comment is laughable IMO, both the club and players enter contracts in good faith. No player should be expected to offer when contracted to take a paycut when they suffer injurys.

A centre could be an option but Id watch a bit more of Koula before we jump the gun.
 
If we wasn't such a great player "WHEN" on the field, I wonder what people's thought's would be about his constant and habitual injuries?

This will be the 4th year straight of missing large chunks of the season. It's an awful lot of coin for someone who plays 7-15 odd games a year (80k - 100k per game).
Moot point thou isn't it. He is the goat so it doesn't even factor in as a possibility. Why would the question even be asked?

This very thought was bought up last year when we were 0-4 and the world was falling in. A small band of posters started questioning if Turbo was actually worth the trouble...

That question was well and truly answered me thinks. All hail Turbo and whatever injuries he has.
 
They just gotta regularly update our members and fans with it.
Well not really. They are trying to win the comp. Why give any info to anyone that will help an opposition team to prepare.

Its not just seaeagles fans that frequent here. Even if it was a 100% closed shop and the management did let fans know it would be out in the public domain before des was back in the car.
 
Ever since @jbb/james used "moot" the other day everyone's using it now lol
Are you making yet another moot point?

What do you call an insect exposed to radiation? A moot ant.
What do you call a moose with laryngitis? A moot moose! - N'pops original maybe only funny to other N'popses.@:p
What game do moose play on sleepovers? Truth or deer.

I love school holidays.

Go Manly and party on Silvertails.
 
Risking our future on Manase Fainu did not make sense in 2020 and is simply insane now.
If we had released him, his case would probably have been heard by now.

Who knows, the same pack of plods and their fellow travellers in plodice prosecutions who tried to stitch up Brett Stewart, might now be working out in the southwestern Sydney badlands.😉
 
For schuster 6 means out for 6 rounds, expect him to be available round 7.

For turbo he will be out for 4 rounds, available the week after.
 

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