Tom Trbojevic destined to be one of the greats

[Shoe1]

Let’s go all Russian and just pretend Tom is playing. Great game from turbo on Thursday night, got us home. He will keep starring for the team for the next few weeks at this rate.

 

[ManlyTragic]

The Turbo injury segment is interesting. Hopefully, our form without Turbo in the next few weeks will surprise many of the 'experts'.

I am not impressed by MG's statement (after just 4 rounds) that only five teams can possibly win the comp, esp. as one of his five is the Sharks.

I predicted we would win 1 on 4 and we have already won one so I’m happy!!!

Just sayin’

 

[mickqld]

I predicted we would win 1 on 4 and we have already won one so I’m happy!!!

Just sayin’

Fuk if we can't beat the tits next week then pack it all up for 2022. Just run at fifi he'll get tired and go mia.

 

[Brookie Bob]

Considering he required surgery and from memory Des indicated it was completely torn, surely that is a grade 3 based on your link.
Grade 3's are also linked often with ACL injuries. Not sure if there is any medical way of identifying a partial ACL tear.
Sounds like at least double 4 weeks.

• Grade 3: A grade 3 MCL tear is a severe tear in which your MCL is completely torn — both the superficial and deep parts. Your knee will likely be very unstable and loose, and you’ll probably experience intense pain and tenderness. It’s common for someone to have other knee injuries, especially damage to their anterior cruciate ligament (ACL), if they have a grade 3 MCL tear.

Did Des say it was completely torn? I can't find the link / footage.

 

[Pepi]

Did Des say it was completely torn? I can't find the link / footage.

No, he didn't say that.

 

[Ryan]

You really should stop your negatively and show some empathy to Turbo.

Would you prefer Manly dumped him and sold him off to another club?

I think concern about concurrent injury for a key player in ANY sport is worth discussing / considering.

Take someone like Peter Mueller or Matt Calvert for example. Colin Wilson.

I think a more mature approach would possibly be to raise contract term, contract amount (much more pertinent) in your rebuttle than the old "you're so negative" crap that it's clear people are trying to extinguish on this forum, but.you can't (and @ManEagle ) seem to comprehend.

Come onnnn. Be better. Let's have a quality debate ABOUT the subject.

I think it's a risk signing any player (in any sport before you start hemorrhaging ) to a high end, long term contracts (with history of key injury to important body parts).

Turbo is an amazing player (best player last year). BUT, given his track record, one would hope the club are able to negotiate him on less going forward (without the risk of losing him), to potentially consolidate fullback depth.

Now, I'm sure you, and your "flat track bully" buddies (Maneagle and others) will retort with some crap about me (which will bore most) in reply, than potentially being an adult to discuss/debate my points, so I guess this is all moot (and a waste of time engaging you).

Anyways, I'm looking forward to yours (or your like minded buddies) comments about me, who I am, what I do or say etc. It's honestly all you have it seems.

 

[40 nil]

Take someone like Peter Mueller or Matt Calvert for example. Colin Wilson.

Never heard of them. Which sport?

 

[Mitch]

We need “nrl” “physio” to weigh in.

He already did a piece on it mate and it was very positive.

It wasn’t a traditional medial tear but closer to the tibia.

Surgery is a positive and he said if he was out any longer than 4 weeks it wouldn’t be much.

 

[Damien2812]

Turbo will be ready for magic round..👍

 

[God]

I like our draw for the next few weeks,

We can beat the Titans
South's are struggling
Are the sharks the new dragons (premiers in april flops from June)? If hines goes down they will be.
Tigers have nothing

 

[Marto1970]

If we wasn't such a great player "WHEN" on the field, I wonder what people's thought's would be about his constant and habitual injuries?

This will be the 4th year straight of missing large chunks of the season. It's an awful lot of coin for someone who plays 7-15 odd games a year (80k - 100k per game).

Money is the business side of a club and I hate putting $ values on players as a fan because what happens on the field will not add up the same as the salary cap, someone on $200,000 can have more of an impact on the game then a player double or triple his so called value, Davey and Turbo worked very hard to get back on to the field how do you put a $ value on each individual

 

[Disco]

If we wasn't such a great player "WHEN" on the field, I wonder what people's thought's would be about his constant and habitual injuries?

This will be the 4th year straight of missing large chunks of the season. It's an awful lot of coin for someone who plays 7-15 odd games a year (80k - 100k per game).

Of course a players ability affects a clubs and fans tolerence to injuries......I mean a players ability in general affects clubs and fans tolrence to anything about them haha.

So to your first point if he wasnt so great on the field and was easily replaced you would consider replacing him.

The point is he is that good when on the field and he is that difficult to replace. So we are more forgiving of the injury concerns.

 

[voicefromthehill]

I think concern about concurrent injury for a key player in ANY sport is worth discussing / considering.

Take someone like Peter Mueller or Matt Calvert for example. Colin Wilson.

I think a more mature approach would possibly be to raise contract term, contract amount (much more pertinent) in your rebuttle than the old "you're so negative" crap that it's clear people are trying to extinguish on this forum, but.you can't (and @ManEagle ) seem to comprehend.

Come onnnn. Be better. Let's have a quality debate ABOUT the subject.

I think it's a risk signing any player (in any sport before you start hemorrhaging ) to a high end, long term contracts (with history of key injury to important body parts).

Turbo is an amazing player (best player last year). BUT, given his track record, one would hope the club are able to negotiate him on less going forward (without the risk of losing him), to potentially consolidate fullback depth.

Now, I'm sure you, and your "flat track bully" buddies (Maneagle and others) will retort with some crap about me (which will bore most) in reply, than potentially being an adult to discuss/debate my points, so I guess this is all moot (and a waste of time engaging you).

Anyways, I'm looking forward to yours (or your like minded buddies) comments about me, who I am, what I do or say etc. It's honestly all you have it seems.

Taking hindsight out - which fullback do you want running around for this team? And be realistic about their worth, the need to spend the salary cap and those available to fill the 30

I know Snake had a multitude of injuries in his career - I think it is par for the course with a dynamic position like FB. Who, and how do we fill the 30?

I will take Turbo half the year - much like Tedesco only filled half the year in his early years. I have done Meniscus, ACL and MCL in my time, age seems to stabilise the issue.

I personally hate a hindsight "they aren't worth it because they get injured" without the reciprocal "they're worth it if they don't get injured" its a contact sport, high value target. We saw how JWH tried to maim an opposition player last night, don't think it doesn't happen each week

edit - I was formulating my post while Disco already put the point forward

 

[Jerry1]

Simples... Naaa..

 

[XV-1]

I think concern about concurrent injury for a key player in ANY sport is worth discussing / considering.

Take someone like Peter Mueller or Matt Calvert for example. Colin Wilson.

I think a more mature approach would possibly be to raise contract term, contract amount (much more pertinent) in your rebuttle than the old "you're so negative" crap that it's clear people are trying to extinguish on this forum, but.you can't (and @ManEagle ) seem to comprehend.

Come onnnn. Be better. Let's have a quality debate ABOUT the subject.

I think it's a risk signing any player (in any sport before you start hemorrhaging ) to a high end, long term contracts (with history of key injury to important body parts).

Turbo is an amazing player (best player last year). BUT, given his track record, one would hope the club are able to negotiate him on less going forward (without the risk of losing him), to potentially consolidate fullback depth.

Now, I'm sure you, and your "flat track bully" buddies (Maneagle and others) will retort with some crap about me (which will bore most) in reply, than potentially being an adult to discuss/debate my points, so I guess this is all moot (and a waste of time engaging you).

Anyways, I'm looking forward to yours (or your like minded buddies) comments about me, who I am, what I do or say etc. It's honestly all you have it seems.

I guess your empathy stops at CEO's that have to quit their jobs effective immediate under a cloak of alleged corporate governance issues.

 

[Ryan]

But fellas, I'm not saying replace him per say, just to consider carefully the contract value and term (without offending or losing him) in a spot where we have adequate cover. Look at the cover Storm have for example. They lost Papenhauzen, and replaced him with Hynes. They lost Hynes, they replaced him with Meaney (who was absolutely amazing tonight). We have all our eggs in one basket, and that basket is often recovering from leg complaints.

Our issue then is we need to create a hole, to fill a hole. Garrick is a fantastic winger. Literally fantastic. It's such a shame that our (and I acknowledge Koula might be that number one for us) budget is very top heavy, and we have to move a great winger to substitute a fullback.

Hence the comment.

@XV-1 , not sure what your latest comment meant, but I'll just say my position on Stephen Humphries is absolutely that he's likely going through a very, very dark time, and I don't think it would be right or fair of anyone to rip into him (particularly at the moment).

 

[Budgie]

Turbo:
Single handedly got us going again last year, taking us almost to the GF.
Got us going again this year by taking it up the middle.
Brings crowds
Brings TV ratings
Brings sponsors
Is an excitement machine
Tries his bum off both on and off the field
Every other club would have him in a heartbeat.

Pay him whatever he wants!

 

[robbiea]

This is a Des team.
Des is in their head.
Turbo is the centerpiece of this team ,take him out and we crumble.
Once that happens ,all we get is "Des is a dinosaur who has lost his mind and cant coach"

 

[Disco]

But fellas, I'm not saying replace him per say, just to consider carefully the contract value and term (without offending or losing him) in a spot where we have adequate cover.

I mean, he is contracted till the end of 2025 so its a moot point.

I'm sure we will make considerations at renewal time

 

[Ryan]

Turbo:
Single handedly got us going again last year, taking us almost to the GF.
Got us going again this year by taking it up the middle.
Brings crowds
Brings TV ratings
Brings sponsors
Is an excitement machine
Tries his bum off both on and off the field
Every other club would have him in a heartbeat.

Pay him whatever he wants!

And just pray he doesn't get injured, or we'll end up very unbalanced (having to pull centres to play forward off the bench, 5/8's to backrow, Hookers to backrow, halves to hookers, centres to wingers, hookers to utilities etc etc etc).

Frustrates me that Melbourne lose Harry Grant, and Brandon Smith slots in. In our team, a Hooker goes down (for whatever reason) he's replaced with a half (for THREE years!!!) without a ready replacement (in a position that is basically a quarterback in 2022).

And we wonder why we can't beat the top teams? That's the answer. Storm have Grant / Smith. Panthers have Koroisou and that other bloke. South's have the Cookie Monster. Just fast sharp ruck control. They get their team on a roll and create momentum.

And it's kinda because we lack depth in specialist positions (fullback / Hooker). I think we are good in the halves.

Just my opinion of course. We are very top heavy, and that's a danger if your top heavy is oft injured and out of the lineup. Thank god DCE is kinda an Iron Man.