Jatz Crackers
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Classic Silvertails stuff right there ;D
Todd Carney Combined Mega Thread
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Jatz Crackers
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Back on topic. Not sure if i can visualize ole Toddy boy downing some lemonades at the regular poker games with our lot and then ducking off down to church on Sunday mornings.
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Carney holds out hope for 2009
  By Philip Henderson
  August 08, 2008
http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,24148268-23214,00.html
SACKED Canberra half-back Todd Carney is refusing to give up hope of playing in the NRL next season despite David Gallop insisting he would be de-registered from the competition until 2010.
Carney's manager David Riolo said he had already begun investigating options to keep his client in the NRL in 2009 while slamming the league for trying to make the 22-year-old "unemployable'' in Australia.
"I don't think it's right, he's been sacked from his club but I don't see why they should make him unemployable in Australia,'' Riolo said.
"I thought the NRL would be trying to keep quality players and work with players in our game, rather than sending them out to Siberia on penance.
"If you're sacked from any job, you're not being made unemployable in the whole industry and he hasn't committed a crime.
"Canberra has chosen to sack him and that's their prerogative and they've got grounds to do that under the playing contract between Todd and the club.
"But that shouldn't really, to me, have anything to do with him being employed by anybody else.''
Carney had his $1.6 million, four-year deal with the Raiders torn up on Thursday after the latest of a string of alcohol-related off-field misdemeanors.
NRL chief executive Gallop confirmed soon after that the league would refuse to register the half-back until 2010.
"The NRL are saying they won't register his contract, but I don't know if that's really fair,'' Riolo said.
"We'll have to look at our options there.''
Asked could that include legal action, Riolo said: "I'll be looking in to that, but again we don't want to get into a legal situation.
"That probably wouldn't help the NRL or Todd or anyone, but I wouldn't mind to clarify on what ground he would be de-registered.''
Riolo said he had spoken to Rugby League Players Association president Matthew Rodwell about the issue and expected Carney to have the support of the players' union.
Rodwell also claimed the NRL may have gone too far by de-registering the representative half-back.
"I would assume the sacking was punishment enough,'' Rodwell told ABC Online.
The NRL, though, had the full backing of the Raiders.
"Without a doubt the club did not want to see (Carney) playing against us in 2009,'' club chief executive Don Furner said.
Riolo said he had already spoken to several clubs both in Australia and in the UK Super League about Carney, but said with most clubs close to finalising their lists and budget for 2009, "we'll just have to see what crops up''.
Canberra are in something of a similar position as they try to find a marquee player to fill the $400,000 gap left in their salary cap.
The club may yet play with an under-budget squad for 2009, putting faith in rookie half-back Marc Herbert and under-20s playmakers Mick Picker and Matt Smith.
Furner, however, hinted they could yet make a play for for former Raider and Manly playmaker Michael Monaghan, currently in the first year of a four-year deal with English club Warrington.
Monaghan's brother Joel re-joined the Raiders this season.
"Well before all of this I was talking to (Monaghan's) mother and father at games and jokingly saying it would be great to see Michael playing alongside Joel,'' the Raiders chief executive told Sydney radio 2KY.
"At that time he was homesick and we joked about it with them.
"I haven't discussed it with a coaching staff but that could be a possibility.''
AAP
  By Philip Henderson
  August 08, 2008
http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,24148268-23214,00.html
SACKED Canberra half-back Todd Carney is refusing to give up hope of playing in the NRL next season despite David Gallop insisting he would be de-registered from the competition until 2010.
Carney's manager David Riolo said he had already begun investigating options to keep his client in the NRL in 2009 while slamming the league for trying to make the 22-year-old "unemployable'' in Australia.
"I don't think it's right, he's been sacked from his club but I don't see why they should make him unemployable in Australia,'' Riolo said.
"I thought the NRL would be trying to keep quality players and work with players in our game, rather than sending them out to Siberia on penance.
"If you're sacked from any job, you're not being made unemployable in the whole industry and he hasn't committed a crime.
"Canberra has chosen to sack him and that's their prerogative and they've got grounds to do that under the playing contract between Todd and the club.
"But that shouldn't really, to me, have anything to do with him being employed by anybody else.''
Carney had his $1.6 million, four-year deal with the Raiders torn up on Thursday after the latest of a string of alcohol-related off-field misdemeanors.
NRL chief executive Gallop confirmed soon after that the league would refuse to register the half-back until 2010.
"The NRL are saying they won't register his contract, but I don't know if that's really fair,'' Riolo said.
"We'll have to look at our options there.''
Asked could that include legal action, Riolo said: "I'll be looking in to that, but again we don't want to get into a legal situation.
"That probably wouldn't help the NRL or Todd or anyone, but I wouldn't mind to clarify on what ground he would be de-registered.''
Riolo said he had spoken to Rugby League Players Association president Matthew Rodwell about the issue and expected Carney to have the support of the players' union.
Rodwell also claimed the NRL may have gone too far by de-registering the representative half-back.
"I would assume the sacking was punishment enough,'' Rodwell told ABC Online.
The NRL, though, had the full backing of the Raiders.
"Without a doubt the club did not want to see (Carney) playing against us in 2009,'' club chief executive Don Furner said.
Riolo said he had already spoken to several clubs both in Australia and in the UK Super League about Carney, but said with most clubs close to finalising their lists and budget for 2009, "we'll just have to see what crops up''.
Canberra are in something of a similar position as they try to find a marquee player to fill the $400,000 gap left in their salary cap.
The club may yet play with an under-budget squad for 2009, putting faith in rookie half-back Marc Herbert and under-20s playmakers Mick Picker and Matt Smith.
Furner, however, hinted they could yet make a play for for former Raider and Manly playmaker Michael Monaghan, currently in the first year of a four-year deal with English club Warrington.
Monaghan's brother Joel re-joined the Raiders this season.
"Well before all of this I was talking to (Monaghan's) mother and father at games and jokingly saying it would be great to see Michael playing alongside Joel,'' the Raiders chief executive told Sydney radio 2KY.
"At that time he was homesick and we joked about it with them.
"I haven't discussed it with a coaching staff but that could be a possibility.''
AAP
eagle_predator
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Carney maybe linked to Wigan in the ESL. Also the word is Tim Smith who is currently playing for Wigan wants to return to Australia and join a NRL club he was linked to the Warriors ? not sure if theres any truth to it though.
eagle_predator
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clontaago link said:
No idea mate
Clon, he hasn't, yet. He has the players association support if he wishes to challenge the 09 ban which seems to me indicates a shaky limb for the NRL to sit on. Why did the NRL pick him out to ban for a season and six matches? My guess is to divert attention from the ridiculous rubbish that is their action against SBW. My tip is that the ban will dissolve under litigation. It is unfair and a complete over-reaction to what was an of field indiscretion, not even a police or civil matter..Don't know what Tim Smith has to do with this thread.
eagle_predator
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DSM5 link said:
Because i mentioned it.
willstyles
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Dan link said:
No way you'd get him for 50k. Even though he's f*cked up badly, he'd be the most in demand player on the market if he was available for 2009. Every club would be interested in picking him up and if he went for less than 250k then I'd be stunned.
I'd be delighted if we picked up Carney for 200k. It would be a bargain purchase of a marquee player, and as long as he kept his drinking under control.
**** him
Bailey will do me
Bailey will do me
willstyles link said:
No way you'd get him for 50k. Even though he's f*cked up badly, he'd be the most in demand player on the market if he was available for 2009. Every club would be interested in picking him up and if he went for less than 250k then I'd be stunned.
I'd be delighted if we picked up Carney for 200k. It would be a bargain purchase of a marquee player, and as long as he kept his drinking under control.
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Hence the incentive payments!
50K as a base with incentives based on both performance and keeping his nose clean
Nice in theory but would never happen. For a start, as Will said, he'd walk into a $250K+ contract any day of the week, so why sign for $50K. The other thing with heavily weighted incentive contracts are that they are a nightmare as far as keeping on top of your salary cap.
Jatz Crackers
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So far KE seems to have it about right.
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