TokyoEagle
Bencher
I think injury may have forced Des' hand on the Suli replacement.
Time to Unleash Moses the Monster in the centres
- Thread starter BOZO
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Tonight we played a top 3 side and our players were put in finals perspective
Moses the Monster showed Glimpses of Greatness but Great Finals players are 80 minutes players
I was hoping that Moses and our Manly players would rise to the occasion but it was not meant to be
We are a few quality players away from competing with the top three teams next year
frank stokes
I discriminate indiscriminately
Yeah I don't disagree and, personally, I have never been sold on Suli... I was just sticking up for @BOZO Because he bleeds maroon and white... (And we all get it wrong at times)
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Ron E. Gibbs
First Grader
#stillonthebus
We have seen what level of play that is needed to win finals footy
and we have seen Lyon and Matai and we have seen Parker and Harper and Suli
frank stokes
I discriminate indiscriminately
He did well at the back end but there were bad reads and errors when it mattered... he didn't lose us the game but for mine it is pretty obvious why the non-flashy Parker is our first-choice centre... Ginger puts pressure on the attack and invariably makes the right call... scoring tries when the pressure is off and we are no chance of winning means SFA imo...
I don’t get the comparison of 1st full season for Harper with Killer and Matai.
Thank you feathered friend for understanding that we all believe that certain players can do the job for us
Unfortunately None of our current centres are dominant finals centres
I hope I am proven wrong but I cannot see a Killer or a Matai potential
Tippytoes could be the player to kick on next season, hopefully he gets a crack at left centre that's his preferred position
Snake
Snake's Alive!
I don’t think we should discount the toll of a long season on some of our younger players...Harper and Schuster in particular. They are playing tired.
Personally, I’m sad to see Suli go as he could be anything but we have to trust that Harper will develop...it’s not an overnight thing...Parker will never be a world beater but he is actually a lot like Campbell Graham; big, good defender, not overly fast or flashy.
Personally, I’m sad to see Suli go as he could be anything but we have to trust that Harper will develop...it’s not an overnight thing...Parker will never be a world beater but he is actually a lot like Campbell Graham; big, good defender, not overly fast or flashy.
frank stokes
I discriminate indiscriminately
Another year over @BOZO and we have given our all...
Personally, and I hate to say this as he was really good in some games this year, I think it is Harper that has a question mark over him...
The ginga ninja is consistent, he is a brilliant defender and he is a good finisher.... and I personally believe that consistency is massively underrated...
Snake
Snake's Alive!
It’d be interesting to see how he goes if he gets an opportunity but I don’t think we need to throw the baby out with the bath water just yet. Harper will develop. Still very young and inexperienced. Parker is a really strong defender and will be going around again...I actually think all this talk about our edge defence masks some bigger problems, like a lack of go forward and momentum in the ruck and poor line speed in the middle (apart from Walker).
Campbell Graham is a both a quality defender and quality attacker who is more agile and has bit of speed as well .
He is a more complete player
Snake
Snake's Alive!
I agree that Harper is the question mark to an extent...Parker is certainly more safe in this team but one thing about Harper is his youth and inexperience. It’s no surprise that the longer the year has progressed, the poorer he has gone...that to me is a sign of fatigue. Mental and physical. It’s a huge ask for a rookie to come in and play a long long season away from home with all the disruptions.
I don’t believe his last 3 weeks of footy are an indication of his ability. He was a fantastic defensive centre for 3/4 of the year...for him to suddenly lose it overnight, tells me there is more to it; namely, confidence, fatigue, etc.
This is what I believe ..
Speed is King and I like good competent defensive backs that have speed and line breaking ability because we cannot afford to be a one man team and rely on Tommy all the time .
I think the problem with the way we view league (at times) is that we do not give players time nor do we let players learn by making mistakes.
I am not saying someone like Harper is going to be our next great centre but he is in his first year of first grade.
Take a trip down memory lane with the below. A the same stage of his career the majority of forum folk were on the fence about Steve M. My memory at the time was it took him a good couple of years to establish himself
Travis Burns
Quick Season Review
Kennedy, Watmough, Matai, Stephenson
Whats the latest with Matai???
I am not saying someone like Harper is going to be our next great centre but he is in his first year of first grade.
Take a trip down memory lane with the below. A the same stage of his career the majority of forum folk were on the fence about Steve M. My memory at the time was it took him a good couple of years to establish himself
Travis Burns
Quick Season Review
Kennedy, Watmough, Matai, Stephenson
Whats the latest with Matai???
You can argue he has the benefit of 50 more games as well
Campbell Graham - Playing Career - RLP
A summary of the career stats for Campbell Graham, a rugby league player who represented Australia, Aus PM XIII and Junior Kangaroos, and also played for the South Sydney Rabbitohs.
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Morgan Harper - Playing Career - RLP
A summary of the career stats for Morgan Harper, a rugby league player who represented Maori, and also played for the Canterbury Bankstown Bulldogs, the Manly Warringah Sea Eagles and the Parramatta Eels.
www.rugbyleagueproject.org
JakeyB789
Reserve Grader
Harper is awesome and deserves to hold his spot despite a couple of subpar finals performances - he will only be better for it.
I do however think we could come to regret letting Suli and holding onto Parker. Parker literally offers nothing in attack and while Suli has some errors in him, he’s a handful with the ball and hasn’t had the chance to play with Turbo all season like Parker has. Either way I think a proper strike centre would do us the world of good as we need something else for when Turbo is contained.
I do however think we could come to regret letting Suli and holding onto Parker. Parker literally offers nothing in attack and while Suli has some errors in him, he’s a handful with the ball and hasn’t had the chance to play with Turbo all season like Parker has. Either way I think a proper strike centre would do us the world of good as we need something else for when Turbo is contained.
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