The Kieran Forum

[robbiea]

Foz has been our best this year.

 

[Shoe1]

Fox has been on relatively big money for the last ten years. Plus he has a dad who is a multi millionaire. Doubt that it is about the money. Can see him staying for 300K and moving into Walkers role and being a backup for Josh S.
Coaching role after that.

people always assume that his millionaire dad will help out. It is a big assumption.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Where there is smoke there is smokers

or sometimes just a cloud of bulldust!
Yeah if Foz goes we'll run with DCE/Schu as a halves pair, personally I see a lot of teething problems with that combo but also exciting potential.
If Foz didn't have such a serious injury history I'd be keener about retaining him, he certainly brings a lot of positives.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

people always assume that his millionaire dad will help out. It is a big assumption.

Or assume he would want dad to help him out. Highly unlikely I'd say, he's a proud guy but also doesn't strike me as someone who wants to lead a millionaire lifestyle. I know he blew a fortune gambling at one stage but surely he's still fairly well set up, relatively speaking.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

And he'd be in demand as an assistant coach as soon as he retires.

 

[Shoe1]

Or assume he would want dad to help him out. Highly unlikely I'd say, he's a proud guy but also doesn't strike me as someone who wants to lead a millionaire lifestyle. I know he blew a fortune gambling at one stage but surely he's still fairly well set up, relatively speaking.

There's also a few cloudy snippets in the media over the years. His mum and dad have not been together since he was a kid, there was some weird incident with Liam being stabbed in a fight with an uncle over debts, also some strange arrest in China, then the foz depression years where there was no evidence the dad was part of the support group.

 

[Terry Zarsoff]

And Weidler’s just doing his thing - stirring the pot.

Then apparently wonders why people don’t like him.

 

[jbb/james]

or sometimes just a cloud of bulldust!
Yeah if Foz goes we'll run with DCE/Schu as a halves pair, personally I see a lot of teething problems with that combo but also exciting potential.
If Foz didn't have such a serious injury history I'd be keener about retaining him, he certainly brings a lot of positives.

The transition would be easier if DCE was more of a half and his experience shone through in big moments. If he could apply himself more to suit what the side needs the combo of experience and youthful exuberence would be perfect. He has it in him but its clear its a struggle and not natural. Really need a trainer behind him reminding him constantly

Even though he is adapting his kicking game to suit the sides his composure is awful and schuster at 6 will attract a lot more attention and a lot less time to execute

If fainu returns who also is a ball of unpredictability and my feel is we have enough.

Tom is an unbelieveable fullback but he could add composure at 6 but id hate to move him to rectify other failings. He was targeted by the swans so i presume he can kick. He lives in the line constantly and gets bashed into submission weekly . Garrick improving and outside backs making a play. Maybe. Im not suggesting its on the cards or would work, just adding it to our limited options

 

[Budgie]

Genuinely curious. Why does everyone seem to think Foz would make a good coach?
He is a very instinctive player which doesn't always translate to coaching - see Trent Barrett.
In the footage we see in the rooms and behind the posts, he is not a talker.
And his history suggests that he may not deal with the pressure of being a head coach.
Having said all that, he does sound very knowledgeable in post match interviews of what went right and what went wrong. So do you all mean assistant coach?

 

[MadMarcus]

Genuinely curious. Why does everyone seem to think Foz would make a good coach?
He is a very instinctive player which doesn't always translate to coaching - see Trent Barrett.
In the footage we see in the rooms and behind the posts, he is not a talker.
And his history suggests that he may not deal with the pressure of being a head coach.
Having said all that, he does sound very knowledgeable in post match interviews of what went right and what went wrong. So do you all mean assistant coach?

I think it’s his ability to motivate others. I don’t think I’ve seen a better player at that in the last 20 years.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

And he'd be in demand as an assistant coach as soon as he retires.

So do you all mean assistant coach?

That's what I said!!

 

[jbb/james]

Future coaching roles are about cap management as opposed to coaching

 

[Eagle 1]

And Weidler’s just doing his thing - stirring the pot.

Then apparently wonders why people don’t like him.

Weirder likes to make stuff up, he likes to see his name under his headline stories. Then goes to bed thinking what he can make up tomorrow.

 

[Eagle 1]

That's what I said!!

Eventually moving to assistant coach role at Manly would be ideal. Thereby keeping the line of great ex Manly players only coaching Manly.

 

[Budgie]

Eventually moving to assistant coach role at Manly would be ideal. Thereby keeping the line of great ex Manly players only coaching Manly.

I do think we have to get over this. It really is severely limiting.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

He needs to retire at Manly, end of story.

I don’t give two ****s about what Schuster might become.

Tomorrow never comes.

Foran is a Manly legend and has found his best form again. Until he shows signs of struggling, we should keep paying him and playing him.

Love ya work buddy !!

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

Do we have any well compensated players getting towards the end of a lucrative contract that might be able to take a bit of a haircut to keep Foz at the club ?

Well there’s one very very well compensated player who has looked a little like the money he’s being paid as a result of Foran’s inclusion , so yes I agree 110%

 

[Disco]

I do think we have to get over this. It really is severely limiting.

I'm torn

I tend to agree but we've not really had success with non Manly men, we have a fairly unique culture.

 

[Budgie]

I'm torn

I tend to agree but we've not really had success with non Manly men, we have a fairly unique culture.

True. But if Bellamy suggested he wanted to coach us I couldn't push Dessie out of the way quick enough!

 

[Snake]

Genuinely curious. Why does everyone seem to think Foz would make a good coach?
He is a very instinctive player which doesn't always translate to coaching - see Trent Barrett.
In the footage we see in the rooms and behind the posts, he is not a talker.
And his history suggests that he may not deal with the pressure of being a head coach.
Having said all that, he does sound very knowledgeable in post match interviews of what went right and what went wrong. So do you all mean assistant coach?

He’s a massive talker on the field and is always chirping. He is renown for screaming at his edge backrowers to run harder. The cameras picked up his intense half time speech last week. When he talks, people listen. He is incredibly composed and a real calming influence on those around him. I can’t say what he’d bring from a tactical standpoint and I don’t get the impression that he’d be interested in too much pressure, post football. He is a real family man now and I imagine he’d rather make that a focus than footy.