The Daly Cherrygraph

[Eagledare2dream]

True, but Kimmorley took the line on more. Kimmorley was a really good player of his time, but does not get a mention in the ‘greats’ conversation

Aiiighttt, agree with that taking on the line more. I just wish we get a Blake, Des, Toovs ASAP cause they played as an extra Hooker. ASAP

 

[HK_Eagle]

D$E is indeed great… a great tuxedo wearing con.

 

[Mals]

True, but Kimmorley took the line on more. Kimmorley was a really good player of his time, but does not get a mention in the ‘greats’ conversation

He phoned it in when playing for the Northern Eagles… so yeah comparable to the 2025 version of DCE.

 

[jbb/james]

Look i agree with the sentiment and as one of his biggest critics i dont enjoy watching him drown

But 25 poor games out of 350. While i accept its a guesstimate its not even ball park
Mummamia

For years he was invisible man 6 weeks pre origin .

TBH its difficult to find cherries place in history due more to the over exaggeration of his deeds . Without doubt the modern day braith Anasta .

rather than recognise him as a resilient clubman, there is a need to constantly push a greatness that just never eventuated . Good player but never really made his mark as a 7 since the glory days , at manly anyway


if he has been your man you should be cheering him on still.
The end

 

[jbb/james]

True, but Kimmorley took the line on more. Kimmorley was a really good player of his time, but does not get a mention in the ‘greats’ conversation

Kimmorley openely dissed the club since and for many i think it erodes his contribution. It can never been separate . Kimmorley had a real dig for us, had a big heart and threw himself into the defence at times to inspire the team. Had his limitations but played really hard toward his strengths

My fav footy song ever though
Its amore tune

When your half throws the ball
But the other team scores
Its kimmorley

 

[Terry Zarsoff]

The majority of Gimmemorley’s NE teammates couldn’t match his pace, along with his flat passing.

It was what it was, whatever that means.

The good news was that his signing seemed to be one of the catalysts (eventually) in the dissolution of the Norgles.

The bad news is it eventually led to the Pennypacker family getting their grubby fingers stuck into the M-W pie.

 

[Captain Moondog]

When your half throws the ball
But the other team scores
Its kimmorley

Yeah, that's what I always remember about him, the opposition winger streaking away to score under the posts.

 

[Waz13]

The majority of Gimmemorley’s NE teammates couldn’t match his pace, along with his flat passing.

It was what it was, whatever that means.

The good news was that his signing seemed to be one of the catalysts (eventually) in the dissolution of the Norgles.

The bad news is it eventually led to the Pennypacker family getting their grubby fingers stuck into the M-W pie.

Ahh yes, H.E Pennypacker. The rich industrialist, philanthropist and bicyclist! Still just looking for a place to settle down with his peculiar habits and the women that he frequents with.

 

[robbiea]

Cant wait for "The end" !!

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

Cant wait for "The end" !!

Should just be merged with the mega thread really

The 350 thread is a little different

 

[robbiea]

True, but Kimmorley took the line on more. Kimmorley was a really good player of his time, but does not get a mention in the ‘greats’ conversation

Either should Dce !

 

[bringbackbeaver]

Yeah nah.

We went all in on him and he delivered 0 post his debut year where he was surrounded by a bunch of true manly greats (greats that played in 4 X GF in 7 years and won 2 of them).

Cliffy , Tooves , beaver , stewart bros , killer, ballin.. they are greats . Stuck together. Had pride in the jersey. DCE doesn’t fit the bill I’m sorry.

Someone said it best the other day

323 games without a premiership

46% win rate since signing 8 year $10m deal

3 finals wins in 12 seasons

Sorry but he was a dud investment. Total dud.

 

[MadMarcus]

I wonder what would have happened if DCE never played for Manly.

I assume we probably would have kept Trent Hodkinson.

Would we have still won 2011? I think so.

Would we have won 2013? Probably not.

Would we have had more cap space to keep the glory team together a bit longer? Yes.

Would that have been a good thing? Hard to say. Gift and Choc were both busted at their new clubs, so from a roster perspective it was probably for the best that they left. But I believe that culturally we still haven’t recovered and DCE should take some responsibility for his contribution to the club’s poor culture.

Overall, I don’t think the club’s results over the last 15 years would have been much different. They may have been better, they may have been worse.

If you asked the question “what if Brett Stewart never played for Manly?”, “what if Geoff Toovey never played for Manly?” or “what if Cliff Lyons never played for Manly?” I think the answers would be far more definitive.

 

[effnic]

Some of you little DCE fan boys are painful. Do you know he actually hates the club? The club you support and love. He cant wait to get out. Made it clear when dragging us through the mud on 100% footy show. You know what he loves though, himself, Money, kicking on the 3rd tackle, himself and money.

 

[mickqld]

Whatever, my head is already on to the 2026 season, welcome Fogarty

Yes and last night we all saw what a game manager halfback really is.

 

[mave]

You know what he loves though, himself, Money, kicking on the 3rd tackle, himself and money.

*2nd tackle.

 

[double hoops]

I think GREAT just goes too far.

I consider myself to have been a fan boy. I'm pissed at the moment.

Yet I think a balanced view over the years is has consistently left a tinge of disappointment, and never quiet lived up to his potential, and that is how history may view him.

The sour ending just adds to the disappointment.

I was disappointed he didn't embraced the goal kicking role, I still think that could have helped his composure, his leadership and his general kicking accuracy.

It's an inability to grow or grow parts of his game quickly that permeates.

The game management, short kicking game, the repeat set in touch when that was the dominant play, the landing those bomb always being a long way out when other 7 are pin point.

I think of Thurston in his prime,he had a running game, he'd take a hit over and over when halves were NOT protected, same with Cronk. DCE never. Thurston Cronk would have games where they just had the ball on a string with hand and foot. DCE just always a bit short of that mark with the foot. Thurston Cronk they could influence the ref, team mates, opponents. It's the Game Management and Leadership more broadly on field I think DCE really falls a long way short.

Always hit and hope without building pressure and grinding the game, or influencing other with his mind.

Some field goals off the left foot, but the memory often reminds me that if turtles game management and even set play management was better, it never should have come down to a field goal never mind him landing his 3rd attempt.

His defence, that rushing out of the line, you can't say teams haven't targeted him and often found a channel right in between him and his back rower. It his read has been a weakness as opposed to tackling technique.

The turtle has been a good player for sure, and good for a long long time,

But even as a fan boy I think GREAT just goes that little to far on how History should and will view him.

 

[Ron E. Gibbs]

I wonder what would have happened if DCE never played for Manly.

I assume we probably would have kept Trent Hodkinson.

Would we have still won 2011? I think so.

Would we have won 2013? Probably not.

Would we have had more cap space to keep the glory team together a bit longer? Yes.

Would that have been a good thing? Hard to say. Gift and Choc were both busted at their new clubs, so from a roster perspective it was probably for the best that they left. But I believe that culturally we still haven’t recovered and DCE should take some responsibility for his contribution to the club’s poor culture.

Overall, I don’t think the club’s results over the last 15 years would have been much different. They may have been better, they may have been worse.

If you asked the question “what if Brett Stewart never played for Manly?”, “what if Geoff Toovey never played for Manly?” or “what if Cliff Lyons never played for Manly?” I think the answers would be far more definitive.

Interesting "What Ifs", MadMarcus.

I'm not sure about Hodkinson. I think he was preferred (by Des) over Cherry and was then poached by the Bulldogs, which is why DCE eventually got his shot.

But I also wonder how DCE's career would have played out if he'd never made the top grade here. He debuted in a really strong side, in a team well and truly on the rise, and was able to win a premiership in his first year. That would not have happened if he hadn't come through at Manly and wound up somewhere else. He was not a "generational talent", and it's not like other clubs were lining up to poach him from the lower grades.

Would he have got a starting role in another NRL club? Would he have made much of an impact on the NRL as a whole? Or would he have bounced around from club to club, never tasting success, and be selling real estate on the Sunshine Coast by now.

I think he wants the experience and ease of being at a strong club again - and who can really blame him for that? Hence going to the Roosters. But he still might want to stop and consider what this club has done for him and his career every once in a while.

 

[Budgie]

I wonder what would have happened if DCE never played for Manly.

I assume we probably would have kept Trent Hodkinson.

Would we have still won 2011? I think so.

Would we have won 2013? Probably not.

Would we have had more cap space to keep the glory team together a bit longer? Yes.

Would that have been a good thing? Hard to say. Gift and Choc were both busted at their new clubs, so from a roster perspective it was probably for the best that they left. But I believe that culturally we still haven’t recovered and DCE should take some responsibility for his contribution to the club’s poor culture.

Overall, I don’t think the club’s results over the last 15 years would have been much different. They may have been better, they may have been worse.

If you asked the question “what if Brett Stewart never played for Manly?”, “what if Geoff Toovey never played for Manly?” or “what if Cliff Lyons never played for Manly?” I think the answers would be far more definitive.

All valid questions looking back, but gosh I'm looking forward to a Manly team without him.

Three more games

 

[Brookie1973]

Let’s not forget Matt Orford in the Kimmorley vs DCE discussion. Great player in his own right.