The Daly Cherrygraph

[Cochrane]

Mate it’s not under 12. Having a crack? Lol yeah nah.
He was ok. Goalkicking was good….

Left side attack ( not Dalys side), absolutely destroyed the Phins. Hammered them. Game completely different if they didn’t..

But Bear and yourself can fanboi away…. lol

Counting the seconds till the great Carsalesman is gone. 😜

Im a fanboi am I?

 

[hozza]

Im a fanboi am I?

lol kinda seems it…..
Calm down calm down. Just winding you up….

Anyway, here with 5 other Manly fans celebrating DCE…….. leaving.

Great win. Go Manly!

 

[Cochrane]

lol kinda seems it…..
Calm down calm down. Just winding you up….

Anyway, here with 5 other Manly fans celebrating DCE…….. leaving.

Great win. Go Manly!

Lol, there prob hasn't been anyone here who has posted against DCE more than me.

I was just saying he had a crack, and resigned to just enjoying it when we get it.

🤡

 

[mave]

He was pretty damn good today.

Took the line on more times today that he has all season combined.
Makes you wonder where this level of commitment has been previously?

 

[hozza]

Lol, there prob hasn't been anyone here who has posted against DCE more than me.

I was just saying he had a crack, and resigned to just enjoying it when we get it.

🤡

lol no worries @Cochrane

And yes, I can be a bit of a 🤡. Lol

Good win though. Hopefully a heap more next year? Hopefully anyway…

 

[Cochrane]

I hope you're right mate, but I think we could use a few forwards!

 

[hozza]

I hope you're right mate, but I think we could use a few forwards!

100%

 

[Mac Man]

Cant wait to play to roosters with DCE next year with an actual forward pack not having wadell in the run on side... But Congrats on a much needed win to DCE the Captain who is jumping ship 🙂

 

[Bearfax]

Bearfax, I respect your views. My views have been expressed many times. I don't like Cam Smith either, but recognise he was a champion

In another thread I just spoke positive about his game today, but doesn't change my view of his career at manly.

I ask you to respect my views also and don't tell me to admit that its just because I don't like him.

I don't have the same view as you for the same reasons ive been posting about for at least over 6 years. Those posts expressed my frustration and slow decline of my thoughts of him as a player. The way he went about things earlier this year just stinks as a captain and could have been done much better for him and the club.

I respect your views Cochrane. If you don't like him that's fine. That's a personal choice. I just suspect many look for fault, pretending its not about personal dislike that causes me concern I just feel DCE has been demonised for factors others display with impunity I suspect its because he displays a very confident air and some mistaken that for arrogance. Perhaps there is a little of that, but he seems a quite confident individual. I read an article on him which describes a strong family oriented man, highly disciplined and very private. That would explain why he says little about himself except in respect of the game. I was impressed by his decision to not lash out when he decided to take the Manly offer and leave the Titans. He copped **** but said nothing. Same this year. Something has got under his bonnet at Manly. People say its for the money. Of course if he still loves playing and can be paid for it, why not, but I read there was a falling out between him and elements of the admin or coaching at Manly. He wouldn't have been so adamant about not playing for Manly, if it was about money. He would have looked for an offer from them but said he wouldn't. That's not a money issue, its a dispute issue. And yet despite it being obvious there's a problem, he's said nothing. That's consistent with his way of dealing with things. I think many misread that.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

The fact many have hard feelings show the way dce has played and the way he left is on the nose for many people, more than those that support him like yourself. Their opinion is valid too.

Leaves a sour taste is an understatement.
But my prediction - all it will take to soften our harsh judgments of DCE is for Manly to have a winning season next year. And if his new club (whoever that be)(lololol) does worse than us, all the better. So so so better 🙂

 

[Cochrane]

Tbh, Im not expecting a big turn around next year, not without some further handy acquisitions in the forward pack. One can only hope!

 

[EaglesDontTweet]

In a side like Melbourne,I feel he would be considered easily one of the very best players this generation. Same with Penrith, Sydney City. He was an exceptional talent otherwise how is to QLD selectors continuously brought him into their side, despite his unpopularity owing the the Titan's action. He was our regular test half. And this when he is playing in a side barely able to make the 8. Are the state and test selectors such bad judges? The suggestion about Hodkinson having an impact seems unlikely given Manly only just got into 8th spot the preceding year, with Foran in the side and much the same side that played in 2011. In tests he was a 76% winner. In SOO in a side that had many of their best retired, he still had a 50% win ratio.

The money issue never seems to go away, even though it was the Manly clubs poor recruitment action that brought DCE back. Understand he was being offered $1.3 million a season at the Titans for 4 years (not much less was offered by Cronulla). Would he cop the criticism and return to Manly for much less. In fact it was less ($1.25 per season but over 10 years). Manly were offering far less (about $750,000 a year I understand) in initial negotiations before THEY withdrew the offer in order to chase Foranwho when then joined Parramatta for $1.2 million per season over 4 years

Other players have walked out of Manly, without notice. Fulton, Vautin, Foran, Watmough but they weren't criticised. DCE said he was leaving 12 months before, giving Manly time to seek an alternative, and he was conscious young Walsh was on the rise, yet he's demonised.

Sorry, but I just cannot fathom the negativity about this player who I think gave his all, was rarely injured and was captain. 350 games, awards everywhere, yet not good enough. ?????

Bob Fulton did not walk out of Manly without notice.

In Bob Fulton's words...

“Manly gave a healthy offer, but it was surpassed by what Packer offered.”

It began a life-long friendship with Packer – all the while Arthurson had to watch his ‘favourite son’ pull on a rival’s jersey for the very first time.

“When I spoke to Ken Arthurson he said I had to take the offer,” Fulton added.

“He was a second father to me and he didn’t try to talk me out of it.

“We had that kind of relationship from when I was 16 and it stayed that way throughout my career.”

Quote link:

Arthurson, Packer and Politis: When three of the game’s most powerful men fought for Bob Fulton’s services and how Fulton won

the81stminute.com

 

[Ben]

He was pretty damn good today.

Took the line on more times today that he has all season combined.
Makes you wonder where this level of commitment has been previously?

He plays in a dinner suit most of the time so he won’t get injured.
He took the line on for the first time this year today as he knew all eyes where on him today.
This is DCEs world and we are just living in it

 

[Cochrane]

Bob Fulton did not walk out of Manly without notice.

In Bob Fulton's words...

“Manly gave a healthy offer, but it was surpassed by what Packer offered.”

It began a life-long friendship with Packer – all the while Arthurson had to watch his ‘favourite son’ pull on a rival’s jersey for the very first time.

“When I spoke to Ken Arthurson he said I had to take the offer,” Fulton added.

“He was a second father to me and he didn’t try to talk me out of it.

“We had that kind of relationship from when I was 16 and it stayed that way throughout my career.”

Quote link:

Arthurson, Packer and Politis: When three of the game’s most powerful men fought for Bob Fulton’s services and how Fulton won

the81stminute.com

Vautin was pushed out also with a low offer that was well below his worth.

 

[2830 Eagle]

Can Dan transfer this thread to the chookpen when $CE goes

 

[EaglesDontTweet]

Vautin was pushed out also with a low offer that was well below his worth.

Vautin may have been but I don't believe Fulton was 'pushed out". Bozo said Manly gave him a 'healthy offer" but Roosters offer was too good to refuse. Arko agreed with him.

 

[Cochrane]

Vautin may have been but I don't believe Fulton was 'pushed out". Bozo said Manly gave him a 'healthy offer" but Roosters offer was too good to refuse. Arko agreed with him.

Yeah, my mistake, I should have wrote that better and not added "also"

 

[jbb/james]

Lol, there prob hasn't been anyone here who has posted against DCE more than me.

I was just saying he had a crack, and resigned to just enjoying it when we get it.

🤡

I would take that challenge

 

[Ron E. Gibbs]

I'm sorry i just don't see it. I'm reading nothing but conjecture and an emotional reaction but little tangible fact. Many just don't like him but the reasons are vague. So admit it. Its not because he is not a champion player. Its because you don't like him.

I will admit I don't like him. It's not that I dislike him, but I've simply never taken to him as a player. There's never been any emotional connection between him as a player and me as a fan. Probably more on me than it is on him. And I have never begrudged him his salary. What Manly have paid him over the years is down to the club, not his fault at all.

His best attribute as a player has always been his availability. He never gets injured, which is remarkable. He can kick a 40/20 and a field goal from time to time, but we have tried and failed to build a team around him for 15 years and have always come up short. So it feels like it's best for both him and the club to part ways.

But if you want "tangible facts" as to why I don't consider him a great player, all you have to do is look at his winning record for Manly (specifically the lack thereof) since winning a grand final in his first year. I don't care about his Origin appearances, or his games for Australia. As a club player, he has played a role and that's pretty much that. Is he a good player, sometimes very good? Yes, he is. But we could have plugged any number of halfbacks into his position and ended up with the same lack of success.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Lol, there prob hasn't been anyone here who has posted against DCE more than me.

um, hate to tell you ...

I would take that challenge

We have a winner!