#SOSGusGouldLet him walk. Take the Trbojevics and Seibold with him. Then sign a decent coach and recruiters and build a premiership roster.
Loyal because he was paid $1.2 million to stayHe has been nothing but loyal to Manly.
Never wanted to leave, forced out then was able to stay.
DCE did speak about interest from other clubs last month...I will say this about DCE and all his contract talks - I am not sure there has ever been a quote or anything from him about it.
Even if you go to the whole backflip thing that was very much driven by the club trying to keep Foz etc
No argument but with so much money tied up in Jake Tom and DCE we have a too many average players. The balance isn’t right. We lack workers and pure defensive grit. Our forward pack hamole aside is not scaring anyone. Our centres are not lyons and matai. Ie we have f”all weapons when the going gets toughAll our players need to be Weapons and not Weak in attack or defence
Premiership Winning Weapons like Steve Matai
Who was a strong attacking Weapon and a Strong defensive Weapon
Stevie Wonder
The Manly Attacking and Defensive Weapon of Mass Destruction !
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I wonder what the chooks were paying cronk at the back end of his career? Probably wasn't even 800k.
Let's go over it again.Loyal because he was paid $1.2 million to stay
NOW that's a forward pack riddled with arthritis. Poor buggersWe need a forward pack like this:
8 - Brent Kite
9 - Matt Ballin
10 - Josh Perry
11 - Anthony Watmough
12 - Glenn Hall
13 - Glenn Stewart
15 - Mark Bryant
16 - Jason King
17 - Steve Menzie
Now, that's a balanced forward pack.
One could just as easily ask if cutting him loose suddenly buy us defensive resolve though? His salary is not the equivalent of 17 players that defend their line like champions.Without laying blame on DCE, the fact of the matter is, Manly has not looked even remotely close to a top 4 side for a decade under his captaincy and with him as our chief playmaker and leader.
I reiterate - in no way do I place Manly's misfortunes solely in his hands. But the fact of the matter is, whilst Manly's investment in Chez may have helped us avoid a wooden spoon at some point (maybe), this team, with or without him, will not genuinely contend for a title any time soon.
You can't win in the NRL if your team can't fkn defend! The fact that the Bulldogs have already become a far stronger team than us illustrates my point. Burton is good but not yet a DCE. Crighton is good, but not a Turbo. These guys aren't the reason why they are now better than us. It's because all 17 guys go out and defend their line like champions.
Does further DCE investment somehow buy us defensive resolve? If not, then let him walk if the guy needs to take another million at this stage in his career. It's not like it will cost us success. The results speak for themselves
I’ve thought about it and my arm’s well and truly cocked with the mother of all piggy banks…if we let him walk over an additional year because of a number on a birth certificate, we are idiots.Two options really
1) offer him a decent contract for one year after this one, but certainly not 1.1 or 1.2 million.
2) offer him two years , on a lower contract.
Use the marquee allowance , use the TPA’s
He stays , all good , he goes , we move on.
Many club greats didn’t play their last games with Manly , sad but a fact of life.
But remember this , for those of you saying “ throw the bank at him” DO NOT WHINGE ONCE about our **** team because we can’t afford any superstars.
I can see it now , “ all we can sign is second grade plodders with arthritis “.
I’m a DCE fan, unlike many on here , I don’t bag him , he try’s his guts out week in week out.
BUT he’s 37
Next year 38
The following year 39
Think about that when you want to throw the piggy bank at him.
Let them all walk at the same time… and then clear a space in the cabinet for our first spoon…Let him walk. Take the Trbojevics and Seibold with him. Then sign a decent coach and recruiters and build a premiership roster.
How are the bulldogs better than us exactly? Didn’t we beat them in the finals last year?Without laying blame on DCE, the fact of the matter is, Manly has not looked even remotely close to a top 4 side for a decade under his captaincy and with him as our chief playmaker and leader.
I reiterate - in no way do I place Manly's misfortunes solely in his hands. But the fact of the matter is, whilst Manly's investment in Chez may have helped us avoid a wooden spoon at some point (maybe), this team, with or without him, will not genuinely contend for a title any time soon.
You can't win in the NRL if your team can't fkn defend! The fact that the Bulldogs have already become a far stronger team than us illustrates my point. Burton is good but not yet a DCE. Crighton is good, but not a Turbo. These guys aren't the reason why they are now better than us. It's because all 17 guys go out and defend their line like champions.
Does further DCE investment somehow buy us defensive resolve? If not, then let him walk if the guy needs to take another million at this stage in his career. It's not like it will cost us success. The results speak for themselves
I’m a DCE fan, unlike many on here , I don’t bag him , he try’s his guts out week in week out.
BUT he’s 37
Next year 38
The following year 39
Team | P | W | L | PD | Pts |
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1 | 1 | 0 | 38 | 4 |
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2 | 2 | 0 | 32 | 4 |
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2 | 2 | 0 | 24 | 4 |
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2 | 2 | 0 | 16 | 4 |
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2 | 2 | 0 | 3 | 4 |
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2 | 1 | 1 | 26 | 2 |
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2 | 1 | 1 | 24 | 2 |
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2 | 1 | 1 | 18 | 2 |
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2 | 1 | 1 | 10 | 2 |
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2 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 2 |
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2 | 1 | 1 | -2 | 2 |
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1 | 0 | 1 | -16 | 2 |
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2 | 1 | 1 | -30 | 2 |
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2 | 0 | 2 | -9 | 0 |
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2 | 0 | 2 | -16 | 0 |
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2 | 0 | 2 | -54 | 0 |
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2 | 0 | 2 | -64 | 0 |