There is one thing having standards and another thing being competent to meet those standards
Manly people dont like losing and i can emphasise with you frustration feathered friend
Its a long time between Great Manly premiership wins
The Anthony Seibold Grievances MEGA THREAD
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Manly people dont like losing and i can emphasise with you frustration feathered friend
Its a long time between Great Manly premiership wins
Firstly, I'm not defending anything, I'm talking our current recruitment and retention, what we are doing now, not what we did 2 or 3 years ago. I made my thoughts known at the time of each of those signings.
That list is a but haphazard IMO, Fainu was brought through, Vaega was not a signing. Segy, Roumanous, Matterson, Seci not top 30 signings.
But lets get your thoughts on some of them
Below on Paulo
Consistency is overrated
I'm starting to doubt that. This last decade has made some of our supporters very comfortable with losing.
LeonardCohen
Bencher
the 8 teams that win the most games make the top 8…what a club is and is not willing to accept is a completely different concept. You can have high standards in terms of work ethic and discipline and still get beaten by a number of other variables that are independent of ‘standards’; like the bounce of the ball, roster talent, injuries, and the list goes on.
The way you and Bozo talk about standards and accountability is very simplistic…almost like if Seibs just logged into the forum and read some of your posts, he would realise how foolish he’s been in his pitiful approach to coaching. He just needs the ‘will to win’, a cup of concrete, and some match highlights from 2008 and the results will turn
The way you talk about accountability and standards would have coach Barrett licking his lipsthe 8 teams that win the most games make the top 8…what a club is and is not willing to accept is a completely different concept. You can have high standards in terms of work ethic and discipline and still get beaten by a number of other variables that are independent of ‘standards’; like the bounce of the ball, roster talent, injuries, and the list goes on.
The way you and Bozo talk about standards and accountability is very simplistic…almost like if Seibs just logged into the forum and read some of your posts, he would realise how foolish he’s been in his pitiful approach to coaching. He just needs the ‘will to win’, a cup of concrete, and some match highlights from 2008 and the results will turn
As far as Seibold reading my posts, I reckon would see it complimentary , just an opinion of improvement which is what a footy site should be or why have it ?
LeonardCohen
Bencher
Footy site should definitely have opinions and I’m giving mine, just as you did
All is good mate....and on most points I like your opinion, have a good night champ
the 8 teams that win the most games make the top 8…what a club is and is not willing to accept is a completely different concept. You can have high standards in terms of work ethic and discipline and still get beaten by a number of other variables that are independent of ‘standards’; like the bounce of the ball, roster talent, injuries, and the list goes on.
The way you and Bozo talk about standards and accountability is very simplistic…almost like if Seibs just logged into the forum and read some of your posts, he would realise how foolish he’s been in his pitiful approach to coaching. He just needs the ‘will to win’, a cup of concrete, and some match highlights from 2008 and the results will turn
No worse than "weapons", "breaking out of the pack", "the Manly Way" or whatever other bullsht buzzwords Seibold treats us sausage roll eaters to every press conference.....in fact one might think it's infinitely better. At least our posters are actively agitating for a change in approach.
What troubles me is that this side loses games it should win and defensively out wide we are aweful. These issues have not been fixed. Another problem is we can’t string together a series of back to back wins. Is that the coach’s fault? I believe the buck stops with the coach.
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No I don't ask you to be satisfied with 11th-13th.
And I don't ask you to cheer for soft players who don't give 100% (besides, everyone knows in rugby league you have to give 110%)
Now a question for you... who has more to do with the Bulldog's resurgence: Ciraldo or Arthur Laundie?
Another question: if our pack included JFH, Api, Yeo and Cam Murray, would our defence improve?
And one more if you're up for it (!) ... if Seibold whipped our current players harder at training, and criticised them more at press conferences, would they soon be as good as JFH, Api, Yeo and Murray?
Like you I'm a rusted on Manly supporter but for the sake of our mental well-being I'd hate to see that ruin anyone's week (or year or decade!)
You seem to be answering your own question! Even top teams with great players and highly rated coaches get outplayed at times.
And yes Manly gets outplayed at times, and I wish they didn't!
So Go Manly, its your day so let's thrash Saints this arvo!
ManlyTragic
Bencher
In most organisations it is the CEO! Who selected the coach? You can’t blame the coach if he has under performing employees, can you ?
Just sayin’
I didn't have a question, so your a little confused....simply stated the win over Melbourne showed far more resilience than the Roosters or Penrith game.
So can we move on and share the positive about thrashing the Saints today
GeneralToovey
Rookie
Fair call. We have conceded a substantial lead on 2 occasions this season, lost 2 games we should have won, have mismanaged the roster, and are not playing with that traditionally uncompromising Manly approach. For me, no finals equals the appointment of a new coach.
double hoops
First Grader
God Siebold is a good coach!!
I'll let you know after I see the press conference
There would have been a few calling for his head if the team lost that game despite the injuries.
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16 | 10 | 6 | 195 | 22 |
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15 | 8 | 7 | 64 | 20 |
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16 | 9 | 7 | 2 | 20 |
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15 | 8 | 7 | -30 | 20 |
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15 | 7 | 7 | 28 | 19 |
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15 | 7 | 8 | 21 | 18 |
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15 | 7 | 8 | -47 | 18 |
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15 | 7 | 8 | -89 | 18 |
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16 | 7 | 8 | -31 | 17 |
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14 | 5 | 9 | -112 | 16 |
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14 | 4 | 10 | -71 | 14 |
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15 | 4 | 11 | -129 | 12 |
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15 | 4 | 11 | -139 | 12 |