Suli being circled?

[Terry Zarsoff]

Yes, Idris. I had forgotten his name.

 

[eagle66]

He went to the Titans, didn't he? And was promised his own kids TV show at the time.

 

[Snake]

Of course, defence is Suli’s big concern but what’s also problematic, is his lack of football smarts...he is not a genuine footballer. He is just a big body. When you play centre, there has to be some footy IQ. He doesn’t run good lines or swerve to beat a defender. He doesn’t have the ability to attract defenders and pop a useful pass. He isn’t an arial threat. He literally offers a strong carry and that’s it.

 

[maxta]

Of course, defence is Suli’s big concern but what’s also problematic, is his lack of football smarts...he is not a genuine footballer. He is just a big body. When you play centre, there has to be some footy IQ. He doesn’t run good lines or swerve to beat a defender. He doesn’t have the ability to attract defenders and pop a useful pass. He isn’t an arial threat. He literally offers a strong carry and that’s it.

Very true.
He seems to want the ball early so he can pick where he wants to run, as he does not seem to know how to play at the line running an unders or overs line and push through holes....
In fact, he is most dangerous when a ball player drops him under back under, so he is forced to straighten up and at this point - becomes dangerous.
Also as you state, an individual bullrush style player, who lacks sense of his support players.
In saying this I wish him well and always hoped he would become an X factor player at Manly....which he did - unfortunately only for a few games....

 

[Snake]

Very true.
He seems to want the ball early so he can pick where he wants to run, as he does not seem to know how to play at the line running an unders or overs line and push through holes....
In fact, he is most dangerous when a ball player drops him under back under, so he is forced to straighten up and at this point - becomes dangerous.
Also as you state, an individual bullrush style player, who lacks sense of his support players.
In saying this I wish him well and always hoped he would become an X factor player at Manly....which he did - unfortunately only for a few games....

Spot on. Agree, wish him well. He can do a job for Saints. I am glad we didn’t hold onto him at the expense of the game time we are now giving to Koula. Smart piece of non-recruitment from Manly when the media drummed up a bit of noise about his performances at the back end of last season.

 

[simon64]

Of course, defence is Suli’s big concern but what’s also problematic, is his lack of football smarts...he is not a genuine footballer. He is just a big body. When you play centre, there has to be some footy IQ. He doesn’t run good lines or swerve to beat a defender. He doesn’t have the ability to attract defenders and pop a useful pass. He isn’t an arial threat. He literally offers a strong carry and that’s it.

The greatest example of "a big body does not a centre make" was Killer.

He could never score the sort of barnstorming tries Suli does but Suli isn't 5% of the player Killer was. Suli isn't smart enough to understand what Killer did about playing centre. He could show him over and over again and Suli would still stuff it up.

600K ? Not bad for a mediocre centre at best.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Suli is a fantastic athlete and he seems like a good person, he's got himself in great shape and is earning his big dollars. Having said that, it would be professional negligence not to aim our attack directly at his side when we play Saints! We will, and it will pay off handsomely.

 

[BOZO]

Suli is a fantastic athlete and he seems like a good person, he's got himself in great shape and is earning his big dollars. Having said that, it would be professional negligence not to aim our attack directly at his side when we play Saints! We will, and it will pay off handsomely.

Here are some interesting stats on Sully this season

Sully has a tackle efficiency of 86. 3 % and if you think that is ordinary

Brad Parker has a tackle efficiency of 86.5%

Sully 16 NRL games 2022

Parker 7 NRL games 2022

Full stats ......

Sully 5 tries
Parker ZERO tries

Sully 3 try assists
Parker ZERO try assists

Sully 5 lines breaks
Parker ZERO line breaks

Sully 87 tackle breaks
Parker 12 tackle breaks

Sully Average running metres 177
Parker 88 running metres


All stats for all to see .....

Brad Parker

The NRL profile of Brad Parker including career statistics, season stats, games, tries, goals, tackles and fantasy scores.

www.seaeagles.com.au

Moses Suli

The NRL profile of Moses Suli including career statistics, season stats, games, tries, goals, tackles and fantasy scores.

www.dragons.com.au

 

[manly al]

Moses unfortunately missed a heap of games for Manly with injury , looks like he is having a much better run with the Dragons so far . Used to get a bit frustrating actually , would seem to be getting back to some good form , then some type a lower leg injury and extended time on the sidelines for Manly . Always had the view that a fully fit Suli and in his best bustling form should have been a walk up start in the Manly centres and even accepting his occasional defensive misreads . But not at 550 k and certainly not 600 k , that was the incompatible reality , . Sure that Manly would have considered him worth keeping in the 350 - even 400 k range but for what he was offering at the time and his injury issues , was hard to justify the 550 k outlay .

 

[eagle66]

Here are some interesting stats on Sully this season

Sully has a tackle efficiency of 86. 3 % and if you think that is ordinary

Brad Parker has a tackle efficiency of 86.5%

Sully 16 NRL games 2022

Parker 7 NRL games 2022

Full stats ......

Sully 5 tries
Parker ZERO tries

Sully 3 try assists
Parker ZERO try assists

Sully 5 lines breaks
Parker ZERO line breaks

Sully 87 tackle breaks
Parker 12 tackle breaks

Sully Average running metres 177
Parker 88 running metres


All stats for all to see .....

Brad Parker

The NRL profile of Brad Parker including career statistics, season stats, games, tries, goals, tackles and fantasy scores.

www.seaeagles.com.au

Moses Suli

The NRL profile of Moses Suli including career statistics, season stats, games, tries, goals, tackles and fantasy scores.

www.dragons.com.au

Don't like it when you and @Ryan use stats and common sense to shoot down an argument.

 

[BOZO]

Don't like it when you and @Ryan use stats and common sense to shoot down an argument.

In regards to the stats that players accomplish ......

All players are gifted

Some are gifted with brut power
Some are gifted with silky skill
Some are gifted with killer speed
Some are not gifted with any super natural Gifts of the above
but are gifted with discipline and dedication to play above their Inferior capabilities

But at the end of the day and in the big games where big plays count
If the superior players are on song they will be singing their teams winning song at the end of the contest

Winners are singers and grinners ....
The winning Grand final song sung by the superior Snake and the Killer of all centres the super talented Jamie Lyon

 

[eaglebuzz]

Here are some interesting stats on Sully this season

Sully has a tackle efficiency of 86. 3 % and if you think that is ordinary

Brad Parker has a tackle efficiency of 86.5%

Sully 16 NRL games 2022

Parker 7 NRL games 2022

Full stats ......

Sully 5 tries
Parker ZERO tries

Sully 3 try assists
Parker ZERO try assists

Sully 5 lines breaks
Parker ZERO line breaks

Sully 87 tackle breaks
Parker 12 tackle breaks

Sully Average running metres 177
Parker 88 running metres


All stats for all to see .....

Brad Parker

The NRL profile of Brad Parker including career statistics, season stats, games, tries, goals, tackles and fantasy scores.

www.seaeagles.com.au

Moses Suli

The NRL profile of Moses Suli including career statistics, season stats, games, tries, goals, tackles and fantasy scores.

www.dragons.com.au

Where's the stat for tries let in by being a lazy idiot?

 

[Eagle 1]

In regards to the stats that players accomplish ......

All players are gifted

Some are gifted with brut power
Some are gifted with silky skill
Some are gifted with killer speed
Some are not gifted with any super natural Gifts of the above
but are gifted with discipline and dedication to play above their Inferior capabilities

But at the end of the day and in the big games where big plays count
If the superior players are on song they will be singing their teams winning song at the end of the contest

Winners are singers and grinners ....
The winning Grand final song sung by the superior Snake and the Killer of all centres the super talented Jamie Lyon

Love this pic, what a golden era it truly was for Manly.

 

[BOZO]

Where's the stat for tries let in by being a lazy idiot?

Those stats for letting tries in are all part of the tackle efficiency rate
Sully has a tackle efficiency of 86. 3 %
Brad Parker has a tackle efficiency of 86.5%

If only all lazy idiots like us could command $600 grand a season . We would all be well of

 

[BOZO]

Love this pic, what a golden era it truly was for Manly.

Golden eras are made from Golden players

The moral of the story ....
The quality that runs on the field
Rule the game !

Our Benchmark of Greatness defines our legendary club
The Legendary 1972 team that put Manly on the pedestal of greatness

 

[IQofalimabean]

Koula to run rings around suli calling it now. Regarding suli its the tackles he cant cover that are the problem. Great ball runner though.

 

[BOZO]

We live by our Benchmark of Greatness

2nd Best is not a fcking Manly thing

When we lower our standards we stand for nothing

 

[BOZO]

Koula to run rings around suli calling it now. Regarding suli its the tackles he cant cover that are the problem. Great ball runner though.

Speed thrills and KIlls
Speed is King and ruler over the slower
You cannot stop a player you cannot catch
Game over
Koula is King !

 

[Eagle 1]

Koula to run rings around suli calling it now. Regarding suli its the tackles he cant cover that are the problem. Great ball runner though.

Yeah, I'll go along with that assessment, barnstorming centre straight line runner, if that doesn't work he's got nothing else.

 

[Rocky]

Here are some interesting stats on Sully this season

Sully has a tackle efficiency of 86. 3 % and if you think that is ordinary

Brad Parker has a tackle efficiency of 86.5%

Sully 16 NRL games 2022

Parker 7 NRL games 2022

Full stats ......

Sully 5 tries
Parker ZERO tries

Sully 3 try assists
Parker ZERO try assists

Sully 5 lines breaks
Parker ZERO line breaks

Sully 87 tackle breaks
Parker 12 tackle breaks

Sully Average running metres 177
Parker 88 running metres


All stats for all to see .....

Brad Parker

The NRL profile of Brad Parker including career statistics, season stats, games, tries, goals, tackles and fantasy scores.

www.seaeagles.com.au

Moses Suli

The NRL profile of Moses Suli including career statistics, season stats, games, tries, goals, tackles and fantasy scores.

www.dragons.com.au

And Parker costs half the price. When you have a salary cap, that is really important.

Parker at 300k or Suli at 600k?..easy decision.