Slater Knob Fest

[HoldenV8]

Apparently I'm a retard folks ....that's according to one upstanding citizen from Blackwater, Qld who didn't like that I said on one of the many FB pages that Slater did the crime, he should do the time.

People in Northern NSW beware, the flash flooding of tears coming from Qld after he's suspended tomorrow night will be hazardous to human life. It'll be worse than when they lost Origin lol.

People in Melbourne bew.....ah who cares about them, they will cause their own flooding

 

[The Who]

Of course anyone grieving the loss of a loved one would have this opinion. It's totally understandable. But didn't the death occur because a shoulder struck his brother's head?
I support a rule that bans such contact, but not when it is a collision where the shoulder strikes another part of the opponent's body.
All sport has its dangers; you can't legislate against bad luck. Many years I had a friend who was killed on the cricket field; not by a bouncer but by a ball which struck him on the heart and stopped it.
By the current letter of the law Slater has to be suspended.

 

[HoldenV8]

Was it five years ago that they brought in the rule? How time flies when your sport is going down the gurgler....
I think the intention of the rule was to eliminate shoulder contact with the head, which makes it a valid rule. However, shoulder contact with another part of the body should still be OK. It is a contact sport.
To me, what Slater did was what any desperate player would do to prevent an opponent scoring a try. That's all I'm saying.

You know, I think deep down most of us would 100% agree with you in that the tackle wasn't one that should really bring about a suspension and an all reality it shouldn't have even warranted a penalty. Hell, we've all seen far worse. Its another example of how soft the game is getting in the current climate where the feelings of mum's with kids take precedence over common sense.

However.....the facts are that under the current rules shoulder charges are illegal and what Slater did was a shoulder charge, therefore it was illegal and he should rightly be suspended for it.

 

[wombatgc]

https://www.nrl.com/news/2015/08/07/shoulder-charge-rules-updated/

Media release on the subject when the new rule was introduced From Todd Greenberg and the NRL itself (I hope the judiciary can use Google?)

Any player who commits a shoulder charge using force will be automatically charged by the Match Review Committee from this weekend.

Head of Football Todd Greenberg said today the change to the rule would remove ambiguity about whether a player should be charged.

Mr Greenberg said the shoulder charge was dangerous and had potentially dire consequences if it went wrong.

While the NRL had made the shoulder charge illegal, the current rules mean offenders can escape a charge if there is "no forceful movement of the head or neck".

Mr Greenberg said the rule would be simplified to require any shoulder charge with force to be charged automatically by the Match Review Committee based on the severity.

"We need to be clear about this... we cannot allow player welfare to be put at risk by shoulder charges," Mr Greenberg said.

"A player carrying the ball cannot protect himself properly against the force of a shoulder charge.

"We have seen this type of tackle have tragic consequences recently and the NRL has an obligation to put player safety first."

Mr Greenberg said players found guilty of shoulder charges risked lengthy suspensions.

A grade one shoulder charge offence carries a base penalty of 200 points and more serious breaches can result in suspensions of up to eight matches – or more.

"In other words, anyone found guilty of using a shoulder charge with force will be suspended for at least one match," he said.

"So there will be a real incentive for players and coaches to ensure that shoulder charges are taken out of the game."

"no forceful movement of the head or neck".
.....the fact Feki isn't in a neck brace or concussed, will see the Slater supporters tossing off.

 

[globaleagle]

Just shoot him
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sp...n/news-story/578723f6de6eec4ea5ef003378e63020

I've seen a couple of references to Bambi and 'will he be shot'.

These people realise that it was his mother that copped it in the movies right?

Am I missing something or are these 'journos' getting the plot of Bambi wrong?

PS: Ban Slater

 

[HoldenV8]

The way I see it, Slater had 3 options in that situation. Two would have been legal, the other illegal.

1 - He could have used his hands and momentum to push Feki out over the sideline.

2 - He could have gone for a tackle around the legs a-la Brett Stewart or Garry Jack and taken him over the sideline that way.

3 - Do a shoulder charge and possibly miss the Grand Final and end his career a week early.

I'm guessing Slater failed simple reasoning at school. He had every chance to prevent Feki from scoring with a legal tackle, yet he chose to do a shoulder charge. And there was no just bracing for impact because he was running in and knew exactly what he was going to do.

 

[jbb/james]

Apparently I'm a retard folks ....that's according to one upstanding citizen from Blackwater, Qld who didn't like that I said on one of the many FB pages that Slater did the crime, he should do the time.

People in Northern NSW beware, the flash flooding of tears coming from Qld after he's suspended tomorrow night will be hazardous to human life. It'll be worse than when they lost Origin lol.

People in Melbourne bew.....ah who cares about them, they will cause their own flooding

All i would say mate is that blackwater folk do know there retards. But dont take offence, up there its a term of endearment. They were just breaking the ice and trying to get to know you

ALLEGEDLY

Just joking i have friends from there , maybe even a poster from silvertails.

Every dislaimer known to man or woman, please insert here.

 

[lsz]

How many times has he gotten off from similarly grubby acts? Will be the clearest case of footy karma if he is rubbed out from his last game by something relatively marginal (especially compared to his studs up/ niggle)

 

[Tragic Eagle]

This is a real integrity issue for the Judiciary and the NRL. If they let this one slide then it will be a really really bad look smacking of preferential treatment. It does not matter where his arms where unless he was trying to grab the bloke and he wasn't trying to do that. He could have hit him chest first with arms around him but chose to lead with the shoulder. It doesn't matter whether there is intent or not. It doesn't matter about where the point of impact is either because that is just blind luck. He hit him at top gear leading with the shoulder and it doesn't get anymore dangerous than that. It is dangerous play that has been outlawed. Slater can only blame himself. He must be suspended.

 

[jbb/james]

This is a real integrity issue for the Judiciary and the NRL. If they let this one slide then it will be a really really bad look smacking of preferential treatment. It does not matter where his arms where unless he was trying to grab the bloke and he wasn't trying to do that. He could have hit him chest first with arms around him but chose to lead with the shoulder. It doesn't matter whether there is intent or not. It doesn't matter about where the point of impact is either because that is just blind luck. He hit him at top gear leading with the shoulder and it doesn't get anymore dangerous than that. It is dangerous play that has been outlawed. Slater can only blame himself. He must be suspended.

I agree. This is funny as hell. Anybody who loves, footy, wants consistency and can read the rules knows he should be suspended. And if he doesnt it will just send more shockwaves through the NRL and piss off fans

But
Billys defence from the mexicans and queenslanders is pharocial and without substance but just as damning. There defence will be , billy is a top bloke, he was injured and someone hacked his account, he was at home with his mum at the time with a one eyed dog and 5 disadvantaged kids. He was in a soup kitchen , feeding the elderly. This guy who shoulder charges was an imposter from NSW wearing a mask trying to sabotage the qld team. Someone spiked his drink, and everyone north of rockhampton, moz aside was there as an eye withess with billy at the time eating bananas supplied by billy They will testify in a qld court as its not really anything to be concerned about cos billy is a kweenzlanda

There in lies the best bit. Todd is damned if he does and damned if he doesnt

Essentially its the shoulder charge Australia had to have.

Who said GF week isnt fun

 

[Disco]

Two very simple questions need to be asked

1. If it was round 6 would he cop a suspension?

2. If it was Paul Momirovski and not Slater, would he be suspended?

The answer to both of those is yes so he has to be rubbed out.

That said the rule was not introduced with that kind of contact in mind and I do think it is a bit soft to miss a GF for it....but, they are the rules and the integrity of the rules must stand

 

[ManEagle]

Two very simple questions need to be asked

1. If it was round 6 would he cop a suspension?

2. If it was Paul Momirovski and not Slater, would he be suspended?

The answer to both of those is yes so he has to be rubbed out.

That said the rule was not introduced with that kind of contact in mind and I do think it is a bit soft to miss a GF for it....but, they are the rules and the integrity of the rules must stand

Based on the rules, only one questions needs answering
Was it a Shoulder Charge ?
Yes
Suspended for 1 match. FULLSTOP

His bad luck that the one match happens to be the GF
There is no ambiguity, or room for character based reductions.

 

[Shoe1]

The way I see it, Slater had 3 options in that situation. Two would have been legal, the other illegal.

1 - He could have used his hands and momentum to push Feki out over the sideline.

2 - He could have gone for a tackle around the legs a-la Brett Stewart or Garry Jack and taken him over the sideline that way.

3 - Do a shoulder charge and possibly miss the Grand Final and end his career a week early.

I'm guessing Slater failed simple reasoning at school. He had every chance to prevent Feki from scoring with a legal tackle, yet he chose to do a shoulder charge. And there was no just bracing for impact because he was running in and knew exactly what he was going to do.

4) he could have done one of his flying kung-fu kicks, that are never penalized.

 

[HappilyManly]

This NRL GF rule is gold - may get to watch the GF is Slater is justifiably ruled out.
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“Our operations guidelines for suspended players are clear. A suspended player cannot enter the field of play prior to, during or after a match.

 

[Shoe1]

The game will be quite even with no billy and no Cronk.

 

[anthonyb1965]

1. He needs to be suspended
2. The rule needs to be changed

Carry on

 

[HoldenV8]

1. He needs to be suspended
2. The rule needs to be changed

Carry on

Under the current rules, yes he should be suspended. But regardless of how we feel about Slater and the Drizzle, its a stupid rule. We'd have all been blowing up nuclear if Snake had been forced to miss a GF for Manly because he did the same thing, and we'd blow up if it happened to Turbo.

 

[wombatgc]

The media bias given to Slater is beyond words, but I'll give it a crack....Fkn Bullshiit.

 

[HappilyManly]

Let him play and get Napa to drop a shoulder into him as soon as he gets the ball 😀

 

[StuBoot]

Let him play and get Napa to drop a shoulder into him as soon as he gets the ball 😀

Nah, Napa would use his head instead.