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Signing a coach with basically no first grade experience.

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by IQofalimabean, Mar 17, 2016.

  1. IQofalimabean

    IQofalimabean Well-Known Member

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    What were they thinking?
     
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    • Crusher_Cleal

      Crusher_Cleal Well-Known Member

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      Always risky, agreed. I guess coaches have to cut their teeth somewhere.
       
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      • TOCC

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        If Barrett was any good Gus Gould would have held onto him for first grade
         
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        • Ryan

          Ryan Well-Known Member

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          Bellamy had no 1st grade coaching experience before Melbourne.
          Des Hasler had none prior to Manly.

          Can work I guess.
           
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          • Disco

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            Gould had an extension on the table for Cleary, Cleary said he was going to wait, Gould then told him to get stuffed

            When Barrett moved Gould wasn't anticipating he would need a new coach
             
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            • Disco

              Disco Well-Known Member

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              Stuart won a comp in his first year
              Hagan made a GF
              Robinson (via 1 season ESL)
              Tooves did well off the bat

              Stop looking for easy excuses
               
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              • Frank

                Frank Well-Known Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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                So what are you saying? Gould got lucky?
                 
              • HappilyManly

                HappilyManly MWTS Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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                That's why they got Carty in to help Baz.
                Plus Bozo is a consultant.

                Baz needs to work to the strengths of the Team instead of changing every structure.
                Once they are confident in each other, the complex moves can be assimilated.@:cool:

                Lozza said that the dropped balls are also due to the unfamiliarity of the players. The player throwing it, does not instictively know who the receiver will be. He thinks its just a matter of time till Manly develop this :)
                 
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                • Disco

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                  I'm saying Gould released Barrett because he viewed him as a first grade coach, not the other way around
                   
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                  • Frank

                    Frank Well-Known Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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                    I think you were missing my point in that Gould may have dodged a bullet. Time will tell I guess.
                     
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                    • weev

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                      If we are nil from six then I accept the premise of this thread.

                      Improvement from week one to two was significant.
                       
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                      • bob dylan

                        bob dylan Well-Known Member Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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                        Because he has one of the all time great records. About 46% win rate.
                         
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                        • bob dylan

                          bob dylan Well-Known Member Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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                          I tend to agree with your sentiment but disagree with the improvement. The basic errors in handling and defence were the same.

                          The only difference was we scored more points against a poor defensive unit.
                           
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                          • Mark from Brisbane

                            Mark from Brisbane Living the dream Premium Member

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                            And if we are nil from 8 is it " sorry Tooves we made a mistake please come back".....lol......as if by the way!!
                             
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                            • Woodsie

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                              Every single coach in the NRL had "basically" no First grade experience when they started.
                               
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                              • Wombat64

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                                Yeah, but some of the better ones had coached in ESL or served long apprenticeships under good senior coaches. Barrett has none of this. What's his coaching CV? Country Coach and a short stint under Cleary. I hope I am wrong and I know I am calling it early but I am picking him to be a dud.
                                 
                              • HoldenV8

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                                Its widely acknowledged that Stuart basically capitalised on the hard work previously done by Graham Murray and Phil Gould. Plus he had Gus holding his hand for 2-3 years after.
                                 
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                                • bob dylan

                                  bob dylan Well-Known Member Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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                                  Can you imagine this forum if we 0 from 8.

                                  Dan will have to shut it down.
                                   
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                                  • Mark from Brisbane

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                                    And it's quite possible, although I still predict 3/8, dont know why but just can't see them tossing the towel in totally.
                                     
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                                  • Loaded dog

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                                    As Penn would say (and, did say to Toovey at the end of RD 3 last year) , "This is a RESULTS orientated business"
                                     
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