Salary Cap Witch Hunt. **Appeal unsuccessful**

[Mark from Brisbane]

I dunno.

I've just been reliably informed that ....having an ex triple international and politician is reasonable to suggest he has something to offer, and that
maybe having a politician, QC, and player all decide (in a way unknown) helps removes bias?

Lol, funny but think I read that somewhere else

 

[Nice Beaver]

I wouldn't call Cleary a nuffy; ex triple international and politician is reasonable to suggest he has something to offer.
Maybe having a politician, QC, and player all decide (in a way unknown) helps removes bias?

A politician and ex player are as useful to this process as a toothbrush to a Souffs supporter.

We are trying to argue a legal argument on the validity of the charges and sanctions.

If the NRL were fair dinkum, this would be in front of legal professionals only. But this is the NRL.......these f*ckwits give kangaroo courts a bad name.

 

[Sheikheagle]

An ex Souffs and Wests players involved- Great!!!

Noel Kelly actually used to live on the northern beaches and had a butchers shop at Frenchs Forest. We rented a house off him at Narraweena when we first got married. So he may actually have a soft spot for the maroon and white.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

A politician and ex player are as useful to this process as a toothbrush to a Souffs supporter.

We are trying to argue a legal argument on the validity of the charges and sanctions.

If the NRL were fair dinkum, this would be in front of legal professionals only. But this is the NRL.......these f*ckwits give kangaroo courts a bad name.

Agree, this isn’t anything to do with the game it’s a legal argument and should be in front of an independent legal committee!!

 

[40 years an eagle]

No worries, it’s part of their Sport Confidential column, it is behind their paywall though.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...g/news-story/4bd9f144af95651bc30ab0031df6f8bf

Thanks mate.

 

[Moops]

A politician and ex player are as useful to this process as a toothbrush to a Souffs supporter.

We are trying to argue a legal argument on the validity of the charges and sanctions.

If the NRL were fair dinkum, this would be in front of legal professionals only. But this is the NRL.......these f*ckwits give kangaroo courts a bad name.

Yes, I can't believe people still put politicians up on pedestals in this day and age. And a former Souths player at that! I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him.

 

[wombatgc]

Maybe here, but get the three of them on a footy trip to Coffs Harbour and morals go out the window!!!

As long as JT gets to tag along.

 

[Nice Beaver]

As long as JT gets to tag along.

But he picks up kicking tees and has a funny laugh!

That means he can do no wrong and has done no wrong.

 

[EagleFlys]

Agree, this isn’t anything to do with the game it’s a legal argument and should be in front of an independent legal committee!!

Well their in lies the problem, as it is an appeals committee that happens to have a QC on the panel. Its not a legal matter at the moment, although lawyers are welcome if the Chair allows them.

But I did come across this below, which probably states a 2/3 majority is needed for a decision. However, that is an assumption as the workings of the appeals committee don't seem to be transparent.

"For the purposes of sub-Rule (1), a decision arrived at by a majority of the constituents of the NRL Appeals Committee shall be taken to be a decision arrived at by the NRL Appeals Committee.
Page 84 below.

https://www.nswrl.com.au/siteassets/documents/judiciary-procedure-2018.pdf

 

[40 years an eagle]

It would be a very sad day if if these 2 ex-players with zero legal qualifications vote against Cullinan for an outcome.

 

[Dee Why Eagle]

It would be a very sad day if if these 2 ex-players with zero legal qualifications vote against Cullinan for an outcome.

but if that vote was made public, a stench would be attached.

 

[40 years an eagle]

but if that vote was made public, a stench would be attached.

If the result is against Manly stench matters not one iota. It will just be put it in the box with all the other stinkers that have gone against us. Must be a very big box out there somewhere..

 

[yokahontas]

But he picks up kicking tees and has a funny laugh!

That means he can do no wrong and has done no wrong.

Don’t forget he also gives away his headgear, that he gets for free by the truckload from his sponsor...all hail Saint Johnathan!

 

[Dee Why Eagle]

Don’t forget he also gives away his headgear, that he gets for free by the truckload from his sponsor...all hail Saint Johnathan!

 

[Nice Beaver]

Well their in lies the problem, as it is an appeals committee that happens to have a QC on the panel. Its not a legal matter at the moment, although lawyers are welcome if the Chair allows them.

But I did come across this below, which probably states a 2/3 majority is needed for a decision. However, that is an assumption as the workings of the appeals committee don't seem to be transparent.

"For the purposes of sub-Rule (1), a decision arrived at by a majority of the constituents of the NRL Appeals Committee shall be taken to be a decision arrived at by the NRL Appeals Committee.
Page 84 below.

https://www.nswrl.com.au/siteassets/documents/judiciary-procedure-2018.pdf

The fact the NRL do not see this as a legal matter speaks volumes as to their credibility and competence.

May as well have corporate law cases ruled on at a weekend barbecue.

 

[Woodsie]

It would be a very sad day if if these 2 ex-players with zero legal qualifications vote against Cullinan for an outcome.

Didn't I read at the start of this circus, that the committee doesn't rule on anything ..... they simply make a recommendation to the NRL ..... and GreenTurd then decides what to do ... ??????

 

[ricardo]

Didn't I read at the start of this circus, that the committee doesn't rule on anything ..... they simply make a recommendation to the NRL ..... and GreenTurd then decides what to do ... ??????

He's great that Green bloke and I think he gets a bad rap just because he has very shifty eyes and looks like Earthworm Jim ... I read he represented Australia in the cricket so he cant be all bad ... so long as it's not that Queen Slander exPM fella

 

[EagleFlys]

The fact the NRL do not see this as a legal matter speaks volumes as to their credibility and competence.

May as well have corporate law cases ruled on at a weekend barbecue.

Everyone is frustrated, me included, by the NRL rules set out. However, to get a licence Manly have to sign up to those rules and abide by them.
To appease most of us, including me, Penn would have to take a negative NRL appeals committee ruling to Court. That will be expensive.

So I will sit here, take a bex, and nice cup of tea, maybe a scotch finger if there are any left, and wait till 5pm to have a beer and forget about Todd Greenturd.

 

[EagleFlys]

Didn't I read at the start of this circus, that the committee doesn't rule on anything ..... they simply make a recommendation to the NRL ..... and GreenTurd then decides what to do ... ??????

Yeah nah is probably appropriate here.

 

[manly al]

Does make it quite fascinating that there has been no definite indication of any ruling yet . Just maybe and especially Calinan has been subjecting the claims against Manly to though and objective assessment and has had every reason to question the general validity of the N R L 's case . Specifically in regard to any contravention of the cap , this again has not occurred as all player payments were reported and disclosed . Any guarantees of third parties did not prevent other clubs from still negotiating with the relevant players and contrary to Greenberg's assertions and again the only questionable issue would be this " best endeavour " issue and how much involvement or degree of involvement any Manly official provided to facilitate any relevant deals at the time . Again maybe wishful thinking but there could be the distinct possibility that some common sense and even practical and technical considerations are giving the appeals panel quite a lot of doubt to at least give Manly some reasonable opportunity and case to repel the N R L 's on balance pretty grubby and biased case against them.