Salary Cap Witch Hunt. **Appeal unsuccessful**

[The Indian]

Court actio

Some battles are worth fighting, others are simply banging your head against a brick wall. Seeking some semblance of objectivity and reason from the current NRL administration is very much the latter, in my view. But like I say, to each his own.

Yep I agree - its not such a harsh penalty for the football part of the club, draw a line under it and move on. Penn should just come out with some meaningless lip service words ( like Todd does about how serious he is about salary cap cheating ) and move on.

Easy for me to say given I'm not the one paying the 500k though I know. But I don't see Penn winning this one.

 

[MANLY4LIFE]

Thank god the aussie cricketers got caught playing with their balls atleast it takes a bit of heat out of this situation lol

 

[Kevinward777]

I sure hope the "we have an email" bluff wasn't the only card they had, but it's starting to look like it. Maybe Penn should have gone to a few of beavers poker nights before inviting himself to the high rollers table.

Mate the way this is looking, I would love to go head to head with Mr Penn in a game of poker.

 

[Eagles2nv]

I’m mystified, the protests of innocence , the two delays, the obvious huge legal bill WHY would you bother??

Perhaps we believe are and there is an appeal coming.

Or Mabye the legal involvement has reduced our penalty.

If we cheated 1.5M we might have got an equivalent fine/reduction.

 

[Kevinward777]

Has anyone rung the club - they might be playing golf and haven't heard the news.

If only Bozo thought to arrange a round of golf for the players he signed we might be okay. $10 k a hole.

 

[weev]

Time now to release the goat photos.

 

[Eagles2nv]

The funny thing is.... it's hard to care if the club did something wrong becuase the roosters, dogs and donkeys cheat the system on a yearly basis while turdburger and his minions do nothing.

If they can cheat, why can't everyone else.

I also don't buy the statement that the other clubs are upset about the payments. They are prob more concerned they will get caught aswell.

 

[manly al]

If it is the case that Penn or the Manly board can see enough merit to challenge this decision , i really hope that it actually happens . Might be a rare opportunity to blow the lid on and in general the T P A "s rotten and corrupted side and again if it is warranted and Manly have not technically offended , to also restore some credibility for the Manly club . But again that is IF a challenge can be justified and for the right reasons .

 

[ALinda]

To me the silence is deafening!!

You're not the only one being deafened!

 

[Snake]

Personally, I'm more disappointed in the club than the NRL. I don't think it's justified to cheat simply because it appears to the naked eye that other clubs are doing it. We are not other clubs and this club was never built on a foundation of cheating.

This situation is governed by the law so for the NRL to impose fines and suspensions, they have some hard evidence.

Shame on the administration of this club for putting fans in this situation. I'd rather lose with dignity than win without it. I implore the current administration to never let this happen again. If it wasn't systematic and it was an "interpretation" issue, can we employ someone with an ability to make appropriate interpretations, instead of that muppet Joe Kelly, like we've had in the past?!

Poor form Manly.

 

[simon64]

Write to the NRL about it, just like that and demand an explanation.

https://www.nrl.com/contact-us/

I'll guarantee you I will Ryan.
But I bet I get either no reply or some pro-forma poli-speak bullsh*t response.
You'd know all about those from past experiences I'm betting.

 

[COMMANDER]

I am a little bit confused.

"There were no findings of wrong-doing by the providers of third party agreements to Manly players. Instead the club breached its obligations under the NRL rules in relation to those agreements."

So if these TPA's were being put up by businesses in good faith, why were they not registered with the NRL by the Club and therefore not count towards the salary cap?

Why would the club not advise the Salary Cap auditor that these TPA's were in place?

 

[40 years an eagle]

I will wait for the club's response before making a judgement.

 

[simon64]

If we are fined $1M that is the same amount parramatta were fined. That cant be right. This is nothing even remotely like it.

But do you think that this will be even mentioned on all the TV shows dedicated to league ?
Not a chance.
They're not interested in rocking the boat.
And it's Manly so who gives a toss ?
We've probably been doing it for years anyway right ?

Are they going to do us the courtesy of providing any details ?
Or will we just get a blanket.....you cheated ?

The day Greenknob gets the bullet from the job will be a red letter day in the history of league.

 

[simon64]

If it’s a million dollar fine there’s must be some serious **** that’s gone on and NOT the stuff we’ve been hearing about the simple TPA technicality.

But will we hear about it ? I want to know what we've been accused of.
Who we paid.
How much.

Mind you. We paid Snake and Skivvy all last year for zero input but unlike the Slime, we didn't get to remove that from the cap.

Are you getting that I hate double standards ?

 

[lsz]

All this does is accelerate the kids coming throught the system (great oportunity for the kids) and continues the build for a 2020 / 2021 real crack at it

 

[WESTIE]

Whining about other clubs doing it is like whining to a copper about getting done for speeding....pointless and it aint gonna change anything...we got pinged...cop it ..move on, circle the wagons and develop the seige mentality as much as possible...if there is going to be an appeal its gonna drag on and be a disruption for ages...the email we have or had obviously wasnt enough to put greenturd ogg from cartying out what the nrl want...let'sjust make the under the table shyte smarter...fck the nrl and fck greenberg..fck the roosters eels broncos and all of them...time to be an even stauncher fan in the face of this greenturd agenda.

 

[manly al]

I am a little bit confused.

"There were no findings of wrong-doing by the providers of third party agreements to Manly players. Instead the club breached its obligations under the NRL rules in relation to those agreements."

So if these TPA's were being put up by businesses in good faith, why were they not registered with the NRL by the Club and therefore not count towards the salary cap?

Why would the club not advise the Salary Cap auditor that these TPA's were in place?

T P A "s are supposed to be a separate entity to the set cap allocation and so are supposedly cap exempt . And yet Greenberg has said that T P A 's are still part of this apparent ' Total cap classification provision ' [ first time that i have heard of this term ] Maybe i should be better informed but i am still quite confused also on the context or basis of the decision .

 

[Loobs]

first time ever Buzz has said something intelligent and actually funny!

 

[Mitch]

Bulldog right on cue:

@BulldogRitchie

Manly to issue club statement in next hour in response to NRL's strong salary cap punishment