Our hooker going forward?

  • We had an issue with background services between march 10th and 15th or there about. This meant the payment services were not linking to automatic upgrades. If you paid for premium membership and are still seeing ads please let me know and the email you used against PayPal and I cam manually verify and upgrade your account.
  • We have been getting regular requests for users who have been locked out of their accounts because they have changed email adresses over the lifetime of their accounts. Please make sure the email address under your account is your current and correct email address in order to avoid this in the future. You can set your email address at https://silvertails.net/account/account-details
  • Wwe are currently experience some server issues which I am working through and hoping to resolve soon, Please bare with me whilst I work through making some changes and possible intermittent outages.
  • Apologies all our server was runing rogue. I managed to get us back to a point from 2:45 today though there is an attachment issue i will fix shortly. Things should be smooth now though

Eagle 1

First Grader
Looks like it is going to be a Croker - Lawton 9 combo and wouldn 't be to displeased with that . Suggest that Croker 's defense is among the best out of all of the comp 's 9 's and good enough workman like in other requirements there . Lawton is a goer there . nothing special but sharp and lively enough to add something worthwhile and to give Froggy a rest . Maybe this junior G C K T can keep improving . Not as high profile as the Api - Fainu combo but just was not sustainable , May not have had that much game time in any case with Manase with his shoulder issues and would have been under pressure to retain A P I over time if he was retained although sure that he would have provided real good value .
I'm with you m al, can't see any available hookers on the market anyway. I'm happy for a Croker Lawman combo, we could do a lot worse.
 

Ryan

Journey Man
I'm with you m al, can't see any available hookers on the market anyway. I'm happy for a Croker Lawman combo, we could do a lot worse.

So go with what we have now then, which you're happy with. An 11th-12th placed squad, who is losing Foran, Walker, Taupau, Davey and not replacing them.

Good stuff !
 

Eagle 1

First Grader
So go with what we have now then, which you're happy with. An 11th-12th placed squad, who is losing Foran, Walker, Taupau, Davey and not replacing them.

Good stuff !
Walker and Foran got better deals, not sure what Davey's getting...and Kapop, like the pizza add...nothing special.. good bye. A lot of our player retention woes is because we are carrying 4 marquee players, well it'll be 3 once Marty goes.
 

Rocky

Bencher
I must watch a different game to half of you. The last two times Froggy missed games (v Storm in 2021 finals and v Dragons 2022 regular season), we absolutely fell apart.

I get it - the Frog isn't a flashy player and started off pretty underwhelmingly to his career at 9. But over the last 12 months he has turned himself into a key player at the club. And also into a pretty darn good footy player. When there is a great tackle in the middle its either him or Jake. That says a lot. Sure he isn't Api or Harry Grant or Cook. But there are only a few of those guys around and we ain't getting them.

But outside of those 3 players and The Cheese, who is legitimately a better hooker than Froggy in the rest of the competition? Last year I would have said Mahoney but now I'm not so sure. Anyone else who is clearly better than the Frog? Erin Clark? Andrew Mcculluch? Zac woolford? Jacob Liddle? Egan?

No thanks.

I'd prefer Froggy over Verrils from what i've seen.

Are the Brailey brothers and Robson upgrades over the Frog? I don't watch enough of them to answer that.

Lachlan Croker is probably on 400k a year and for that price is actually a bargain. The real problems at Manly are in other positions and that's where we should be looking to strengthen the playing roster.
 

The Indian

Bencher
Agree with the sentiment that whilst Croker is no star he's been solid and is far from our biggest problem. I'd much prefer him than to just panic buy the next Danny Levi or Jake Turpin who whoever another club is willing to offload.

But if we are going for a value recycled pick Chris Randall from the Knights is a very whole hearted player, is stuck behind Jayden Brailey at the Knights and always does the job.
 

Eagle 1

First Grader
I must watch a different game to half of you. The last two times Froggy missed games (v Storm in 2021 finals and v Dragons 2022 regular season), we absolutely fell apart.

I get it - the Frog isn't a flashy player and started off pretty underwhelmingly to his career at 9. But over the last 12 months he has turned himself into a key player at the club. And also into a pretty darn good footy player. When there is a great tackle in the middle its either him or Jake. That says a lot. Sure he isn't Api or Harry Grant or Cook. But there are only a few of those guys around and we ain't getting them.

But outside of those 3 players and The Cheese, who is legitimately a better hooker than Froggy in the rest of the competition? Last year I would have said Mahoney but now I'm not so sure. Anyone else who is clearly better than the Frog? Erin Clark? Andrew Mcculluch? Zac woolford? Jacob Liddle? Egan?

No thanks.

I'd prefer Froggy over Verrils from what i've seen.

Are the Brailey brothers and Robson upgrades over the Frog? I don't watch enough of them to answer that.

Lachlan Croker is probably on 400k a year and for that price is actually a bargain. The real problems at Manly are in other positions and that's where we should be looking to strengthen the playing roster.
It's our Elephant in the room....we need good tough Front Rowers..
 

AlxFromNthNarra

Rarely does big posts worth reading....maybe
Frog has improved a lot and seemingly become a lot more durable.

As a kid he was never lacking talent just time - after suffering like 26 snapped ACLs it wasn't like he didn't have a reason.

We will always be underdone vs a Api/Fainu tag-team hooking rotation we had the previous luxury of - which is never coming back now more than ever...

Frog has improved, and I hope he continues to. I like his mettle, grit, discipline and determination. He's not flashy, he's not a grubby Smith(s)-type, he's not a Cook jackrabbit, he's not a Mahony stirrer or a Hunt $1mill investment.

Some people need to stop letting perfect be the enemy of good.
 

Marto1970

Reserve Grader
I'm happy with Froggy at 9 but we need a 13 similar to Walker,so Jake to prop and finding a 13 who has good defence and ball playing ability can hopefully play 80min , Having that extra good defender in the middle with Croker and Jake ( Walkers defence was his main letdown,to many times left lying on the ground in the ruck ) strengthens our middle. Someone who can lift our attack like Walker did while Croker improves his attacking skills, Don't know if Lawton/ Fulton or a fully fit Shu can fit in
 
Yeah mate he’s a gun from what I’ve seen of him. No point looking for a hooker outside the club imo, as all the good 9s are signed up. Better off to keep developing GCKT and give him a crack next year off the bench and see how he goes. Reckon he could provide some really good impact for us. And then have croker starting, and give Lawton a go at playing that lock role off the bench that Walker has been doing so well.
And he has one more initial than DCE
 

manly al

First Grader
I'm happy with Froggy at 9 but we need a 13 similar to Walker,so Jake to prop and finding a 13 who has good defence and ball playing ability can hopefully play 80min , Having that extra good defender in the middle with Croker and Jake ( Walkers defence was his main letdown,to many times left lying on the ground in the ruck ) strengthens our middle. Someone who can lift our attack like Walker did while Croker improves his attacking skills, Don't know if Lawton/ Fulton or a fully fit Shu can fit in
Not really a likely player already in the Manly system who could be converted to a 13 role unfortunately also . Recall that Zac Saddler was tried as a 13 at Black Town and looked promising there as well until his serious injury . Bullemor good ability but defence and link man role wouldn 't seem to be there at the moment . Burbo and Parker , more edge type players . Zac Fulton maybe could fit the bill with some more experience , certainly seems to have good drive [ nailing Tedesco in his in goal was a real good sign ] , ball playing skills maybe could be fast tracked . Jjust have to see how much improvement Walker constantly brings to the ruck attack when he is on to place a big emphasis on finding someone there to offer something similar or close to it and some reasonable defensive ability .
 

maxta

First Grader
Premium Member
Rugged, powerful and has ball skills, plus can tackle... but a VERY specialist position to jump into, yes possible, but not an easy change up for a backrower to hooker.
The change of a halfback to hooker can work well in the modern game, as the instincts and heads up plays are already part of their skillset.
I reckon you will see Fulton more likely as an impact of bench like the Roosters game and personally with 2022 shot, would have liked him to get more game time to finish this season.
 

BOZO

Journey Man
Tipping Member
Some people need to stop letting perfect be the enemy of good.


The enemy of good is not to strive and keep evolving and perfecting all positions on the field

Perfecting is to strive towards our legendary clubs benchmark of excellence

The Benchmark of excellence that wins Manly Premierships


See the source image
 
Team P W L PD Pts
17 14 3 141 34
17 12 5 118 30
17 11 6 125 28
18 11 7 209 26
18 10 7 97 25
17 9 8 63 24
17 9 8 46 24
18 10 8 3 24
17 9 8 -56 24
17 8 9 -91 22
18 8 10 25 20
17 7 10 -90 20
18 8 10 -97 20
18 7 10 -34 19
17 6 11 -89 18
17 4 13 -153 14
18 4 14 -217 12
Back
Top Bottom