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forums should be exactly that, forums. I thought this was a breakaway forum so people would not be censored as they do in the main site. People who build forums do it out of their own interest and to build a space for like minded people to have a chat, not as a 'myspace" where the forum owner and friends run the show and "visitors" either put up with it or go away if they don't like it.

if we are tired of something, we should be able to let other forum users know, whether they know Head Admin or not.

Mata, if the " I'm asked to do what i do on this site" means you have been asked to drum up conversation & controversy with your comments/threads to help keep the site interesting and "cutting edge", and your a type of puppet master, all good and well, but maybe people are tired of eating the same old biscuit?

I've been reading both sites for years, and the few times a week i visit here, i am generally eating the same 'ole biscuit.

We know your views, but the constant need for a win by posting a Monas or another target's poor stats on a given week: , AND the need for people to bother pasting the said player's stats from a good week attentioning Mata is crazy?

I'd like a supporters forum to get back to more interesting news and thoughts from people, instead of just bringing up poor performances in a "I told you so - who is your daddy" type manner.

Some people make Mata look like a world class angler.

Alright, let me have it.....:0)
 
this is a reply to a number of posts:

forums should be exactly that, forums. I thought this was a breakaway forum so people would not be censored as they do in the main site. People who build forums do it out of their own interest and to build a space for like minded people to have a chat, not as a 'myspace\" where the forum owner and friends run the show and \"visitors\" either put up with it or go away if they don't like it.

There's quite a history behind this site. It actually started as a forum. Thats all it was. Quite a few of us threw in the money to get it started because we all wanted exactly what you mentioned in you post. "build a space for like minded people to have a chat"

We were sick an tired of the censorship on other sites. The team was going through a very tough period (early 2004) and although constructive, our general yarn about team affairs wasn't tolerated on other sites. It was join the conga line and walk in the same direction or don't come at all.

if we are tired of something, we should be able to let other forum users know, whether they know Head Admin or not.

Completely agree. Everybody on this forum is entitled to say whatever they like. You have the right to let somebody know that they are really starting to harp on the same crap over and over.

What I get frustrated with is these people who claim mata is whining on the same old rubbish... are actually whining on in exactly the same fashion. I think you'll find that when someone gives him a decent debate on the topic he brings up, you won't see it spread the way it does. Somebody come up with some decent talk about the issues instead of just resorting to the Broken Record phrases.

Mata, if the \" I'm asked to do what i do on this site\" means you have been asked to drum up conversation & controversy with your comments/threads to help keep the site interesting and \"cutting edge\", and your a type of puppet master, all good and well, but maybe people are tired of eating the same old biscuit?

I've been reading both sites for years, and the few times a week i visit here, i am generally eating the same 'ole biscuit.

You'll find that mata hasn't been specifically asked to drum up traffic. Although common sense would tell you it helps every little bit considering the site runs at a loss. His comment should have been taken as "there you go dan, job well done on increasing traffic this week" instead of being taken so literally.

Like I said earlier, the biggest problem with the "same 'ole biscuit" is that nobody is willing to debate it. Everyone wants to have a crack that it keeps being said, someone try and prove him wrong. People are becoming annoyed with something they haven't even tried to discuss without slipping into the childish remarks by page 2.

We know your views, but the constant need for a win by posting a Monas or another target's poor stats on a given week: , AND the need for people to bother pasting the said player's stats from a good week attentioning Mata is crazy?

I'd like a supporters forum to get back to more interesting news and thoughts from people, instead of just bringing up poor performances in a \"I told you so - who is your daddy\" type manner.

Some people make Mata look like a world class angler.

Alright, let me have it.....:0)

Mate, if you want to see more interesting news and views, start making them. I'd hate to think your another who carry's on about how they want it but doesn't do anything to make it.

Like I said, this site is for everybody. Theres something in here that everyone can relate to. The more opinions, the more controversy the more posters makes for a better all round experience. To be honest, I don't want any less of mata's ramblings. We've known him for years and thats just how he is. I deep down don't want fluffy to stop defending king or ryan to stop coming up with a new team line up every 10 mins.

Thats what makes this site unique. So much rubbish, so many opinions in one place. I just wish people would see it and start adding the content they want to see instead of just whingeing that someone else hasn't done it.
 
Flip...if this forum was a murder scene I can imagine that many posters could regard your posts as blunt force trauma.

Full marks for the post above though. good enough to make one consider why they post here and about the quality of their posts.

Makes me wanna start a fresh Monas thread it does. 8)
 
I think i can be creditted alot for the replies to this thread. When i came charging in and let rip it kick started this thread again 🙂
 
Flip...if this forum was a murder scene I can imagine that many posters could regard your posts as blunt force trauma.

Full marks for the post above though. good enough to make one consider why they post here and about the quality of their posts.

Makes me wanna start a fresh Monas thread it does. 8)

You're all lucky its not a murder scene. 😉
 
Flip said: Mate, if you want to see more interesting news and views, start making them. I'd hate to think your another who carry's on about how they want it but doesn't do anything to make it.

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is that nobody is willing to debate it. Everyone wants to have a crack that it keeps being said, someone try and prove him wrong.



Flip, i feel Monas and other serial threads have been debated, and we don't need to prove Mata or vice versa wrong because we all have our own opinion. Most would think he's a fair player for Manly and currently deserves his spot in the team - albeit overpaid. We know, Monas probably knows.

However the overpaid, weekly bad stats/good stats posts to apparently prove a point is eating the same 'ole biscuit. He has good weeks and occasionally some ordinary weeks.

Add something myself you say...you'd hate to think ...? Well, I've been here a week (11 or so posts), and I'm making an attempt to try and limit people wasting their energy on repetitive threads and put that energy into more thought provoking threads that would benefit us all.

So you don't have to hate to think......
 
I've been here a week (11 or so posts), and I'm making an attempt to try and limit people wasting their energy on repetitive threads and put that energy into more thought provoking threads that would benefit us all.


What you're really trying to do is tell somebody what they should do while they are on the web site. A website Mata has contributed money and effort to create, so that he and everybody else here can say and do what they like.

Move your attention away from what Mata is doing on the site and make these thought provoking threads that would benefit everybody. But while you continue to post the above, you are adding exactly what you say you don't want to see.

I wonder just how many of your 11 posts have 'added' to the types of content you want to see.
 
Too be fair Noodler, and other guys - we watch a sport that has about 25 of the same players playing all year against teams they've played against for years, so one would assume that topics of debate may be re-hashed at trigger events (like Monaghan being moved to 1/2 back).
If I said to you Nutzcraw - don't repeat anything you have debated before - as it's just the same ol' rubbish, there would be nothing said on any forum.

As for the topic though:

- I would much rather have Monaghan IN our team than against our team. I think he has a ways to go speed wise as a Hooker, but he IS a rather good Hooker. I won't discuss my thought of his as a 1/2 back though, as this would be counter productive.
- I would also assume at full strength, Monaghan may be sweating, and peering over his shoulder at Matt Ballin.
 
Flip, i feel Monas and other serial threads have been debated, and we don't need to prove Mata or vice versa wrong because we all have our own opinion. Most would think he's a fair player for Manly and currently deserves his spot in the team - albeit overpaid. We know, Monas probably knows.

You forget something. The coaching staff and his team mates know it as well, for differing results.

The coaching staff feel obligated to pick him because he is a significant part of the weekly wage bill.

Team mates (particularly Ballin) know he is dead wood in terms of a ratio of dollars to ability.

Therefore it is an ongoing issue and worthy of continued comment, until such time as he justify's the lofty status his pay packet suggest. something that is unlikely to happen until we're rid of him.
 

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