Members Council

Batty said:
I personally don't understand the rush to sign up for 19/20 when he clearly could have waited till conditions were already in place...? If they were such a big issue that is... I mean it apparently was terrible for him, doing everything, struggling with a lack of support - but signs up with 14 months to go on his contract for a further 2yrs... Odd.
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If you recall he was in no rush to re-sign ... the negotiations took several months ..... people on here were saying hurry up and get it done .... it was the club that offered the extension ....

Batty said:
He resigned in July. Why did he resign if his contract is broken? Why not go to court? Why go to Rothfield after resigning with a list of complaints like garden furniture attrocities and how Manly used his family as slave labour to clean the change rooms back in 2016? That doesn't sound like the issues of a broken contract, they sound like excuses.
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You will recall that his interview with RothTool was only reluctantly done AFTER Penn came out in the press and did the usual attempt at character assassination on him ..... and it was clear that he gave examples like the furniture as indicative of a club attitude and 2nd rate conditions ... not as any major or going issue or a reason for his resignation ...

Barrett has stated that certain conditions of his contract have not been met .... I cannot say if these are contractual or just promises ... but either way they have triggred his resignation ... I believe on principle ... something held in very limited quantities by his detractors at the club ..

PSS ... His coaching record whilst interesting bears ...... no relevance to this discussion ...
 
wombatgc said:
All very good points Ryan. The one that sticks in my craw the most (and is not necessarily an issue for some), is the laughing after a loss. To me it is a window looking into the players or group of players mindsets.ive gone on adnauseum about this, but in all the time I played footy, touch or baseball, there was never any back slapping, hugging, laughing like you'd just heard the best joke ever. Leave it for off the field after you've had a debrief. We need a ruthless attitude back, not some piss in the ops pocket mentality.
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I agree ... I a from the same era and mindset .... but with all the focus it got, I watched every other team and saw the same thing .... mainly from the Polynesians .... it is just how it is now ...
 
Mark from Brisbane said:
Something for the members council I reckon is this.

The club is at a tipping point with thousands of dissatisfied fans and members , and attendances this year shows this.

They can go two ways with this.

1) minimal changes ( head coach changed with existing staff) and virtually no player acquisitions ( Elgey aside) and the rot will continue. A couple more years running near last or last with no future in sight and I reckon it’s sayonara Sea Eagles.

2) major changes ( the best possible coach and support staff) plus go hard as they can to fix the obvious holes in our side and barring the Brookvale issue we can begin to climb out of the mess we are in.

It’s simple, no really simple.

Forget all the fluff , all the marketing and all the bull**** , the actions in item 2 will say all that needs to be said!!

Full stop!!
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Maybe you have heard a rumor to indicate whether it is going to be 1 or 2? ;-)
 
Dear all
I would like to take this opportunity to just to say something.
This morning I had a phone call from lyall Gorman I had sent the club a number of emails about a few areas of concern I had and had not heard anything back from the membership team.
He gave me a few answers to my Questions which he said that he would be answering them over the coming weeks with announcements of some kind.
The thing he said which was striking he gets our frustration and never wants to see a season like 2018 again.
I think he truly gets membership numbers next year are going to be low and the club needs to change this.

Lyall for him to call me on his personal line and give up his time he changed my perception of him today.Also him to offer up the option to contact him in future is much appreciated.

Please dont ask me to share what was said a lot of what he said will be revealed in coming weeks.
 
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davohan123 said:
Dear all
I would like to take this opportunity to just to say something.
This morning I had a phone call from lyall Gorman I had sent the club a number of emails about a few areas of concern I had and had not heard anything back from the membership team.
He gave me a few answers to my Questions which he said that he would be answering them over the coming weeks with announcements of some kind.
The thing he said which was striking he gets our frustration and never wants to see a season like 2018 again.
I think he truly gets membership numbers next year are going to be low and the club needs to change this.

Lyall for him to call me on his personal line and give up his time he changed my perception of him today.Also him to offer up the option to contact him in future is much appreciated.

Please dont ask me to share what was said a lot of what he said will be revealed in coming weeks.
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As I’ve said, he’s a good guy, a real good guy.

I just hope he’s allowed to do what he does best!!
 
davohan123 said:
Dear all
I would like to take this opportunity to just to say something.
This morning I had a phone call from lyall Gorman I had sent the club a number of emails about a few areas of concern I had and had not heard anything back from the membership team.
He gave me a few answers to my Questions which he said that he would be answering them over the coming weeks with announcements of some kind.
The thing he said which was striking he gets our frustration and never wants to see a season like 2018 again.
I think he truly gets membership numbers next year are going to be low and the club needs to change this.

Lyall for him to call me on his personal line and give up his time he changed my perception of him today.Also him to offer up the option to contact him in future is much appreciated.

Please dont ask me to share what was said a lot of what he said will be revealed in coming weeks.
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Thanks for letting us know.

It annoys me a bit that if the news is ready to share with some members why can't they just put it out there now. I get that it will part of their membership drive for '19. But the last thing the rusted on fans want is some calculating, transparent marketing strategy purely designed to get us to part with our hard earned.

The year we have endured and the constant trials and tribulations that come with being a manly fans surely deserves some good news with no hidden catches or motives

Give us the good news, future plans, give us time with it, let us get excited about it, then ask us for membership money

Nevertheless, I hope good news is coming and doesn't come with a side dish of hot air and some garnishing of pie in the sky.

Cold hard facts, investment, staffing, recruitment and strategies to get us back to where we should be.

I like lyall, I just hope he is allowed to do the job we need and he can
 
Zimbalist said:
Don’t post much anymore, but seriously, this site has moved against the club big time in the last year or so. Some of the most influential voices on this forum attack club legends, ridicule the management, bully new members and attack most of the clubs employees.
Rumours are thrown around with very little substance, however it’s all OK on ST
I suggest you all stop your whining and get behind the club while the chips are down. I will probably be bagged (as is typical) but it’s probably time to turn the tide against the naysayers. The hoax of a coach is on the way out, so start making a difference.
Lyall is a good man, he will prove to be a punctuation in the downward trend in the club. If we keep him, he will reestablish the culture we all love.
The club will get back to where we were, we always do. Lots of work to be done, but we will get there.
Be strong, regroup and let’s turn the tide.
See ya in February!
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I like and agree with what you say and like the sentiments but the voices and comments here are usually voiced out frustration with the lack of transparency and communication and the feeling that we aren't on the same page as the owners...... I think given the last three years many of us feel concern for the future.

The lack of communication and trust leaves a void and that's where the **** happens......
 
Zimbalist said:
Don’t post much anymore, but seriously, this site has moved against the club big time in the last year or so. Some of the most influential voices on this forum attack club legends, ridicule the management, bully new members and attack most of the clubs employees.
Rumours are thrown around with very little substance, however it’s all OK on ST
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It's called the internet darl.
 
davohan123 said:
Dear all
I would like to take this opportunity to just to say something.
This morning I had a phone call from lyall Gorman I had sent the club a number of emails about a few areas of concern I had and had not heard anything back from the membership team.
He gave me a few answers to my Questions which he said that he would be answering them over the coming weeks with announcements of some kind.
The thing he said which was striking he gets our frustration and never wants to see a season like 2018 again.
I think he truly gets membership numbers next year are going to be low and the club needs to change this.

Lyall for him to call me on his personal line and give up his time he changed my perception of him today.Also him to offer up the option to contact him in future is much appreciated.

Please dont ask me to share what was said a lot of what he said will be revealed in coming weeks.
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I think a lot of people who post on here a being way to hard with their judgement of him. As I always said he is a good operator and will be good for our club. I don't envy him in any way given the task at hand that he has. It will never be easy.
 
I've met Lyall few times.
Great fella.
As for Barrett.
I think he realised he can't coach and was out of his depth.
The fact that he resigned and stated certain 'conditions' as reasons for him having to resign are purely the case of the small dog barking at the fence and looking noble and courageous until he sees that the gate is open.
Nothing more to hide behind.
Pup.
 
Zimbalist said:
Don’t post much anymore, but seriously, this site has moved against the club big time in the last year or so. Some of the most influential voices on this forum attack club legends, ridicule the management, bully new members and attack most of the clubs employees.
Rumours are thrown around with very little substance, however it’s all OK on ST
I suggest you all stop your whining and get behind the club while the chips are down. I will probably be bagged (as is typical) but it’s probably time to turn the tide against the naysayers. The hoax of a coach is on the way out, so start making a difference.
Lyall is a good man, he will prove to be a punctuation in the downward trend in the club. If we keep him, he will reestablish the culture we all love.
The club will get back to where we were, we always do. Lots of work to be done, but we will get there.
Be strong, regroup and let’s turn the tide.
See ya in February!
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Gday cuzzo how’s the moonboot
 
Zimbalist said:
Don’t post much anymore, but seriously, this site has moved against the club big time in the last year or so. Some of the most influential voices on this forum attack club legends, ridicule the management, bully new members and attack most of the clubs employees.
Rumours are thrown around with very little substance, however it’s all OK on ST
I suggest you all stop your whining and get behind the club while the chips are down. I will probably be bagged (as is typical) but it’s probably time to turn the tide against the naysayers. The hoax of a coach is on the way out, so start making a difference.
Lyall is a good man, he will prove to be a punctuation in the downward trend in the club. If we keep him, he will reestablish the culture we all love.
The club will get back to where we were, we always do. Lots of work to be done, but we will get there.
Be strong, regroup and let’s turn the tide.
See ya in February!
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When you say club legends do you mean MWSE franchise club or the real and traditional Manly?
 
davohan123 said:
Dear all
I would like to take this opportunity to just to say something.
This morning I had a phone call from lyall Gorman I had sent the club a number of emails about a few areas of concern I had and had not heard anything back from the membership team.
He gave me a few answers to my Questions which he said that he would be answering them over the coming weeks with announcements of some kind.
The thing he said which was striking he gets our frustration and never wants to see a season like 2018 again.
I think he truly gets membership numbers next year are going to be low and the club needs to change this.

Lyall for him to call me on his personal line and give up his time he changed my perception of him today.Also him to offer up the option to contact him in future is much appreciated.

Please dont ask me to share what was said a lot of what he said will be revealed in coming weeks.
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Lyall seems like the guy that can talk the talk . Time will reveal if he can also walk the walk 😉
Keep us posted @davohan123
 
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