DCE and Foran. Is it working?

[Supreme Leader]

Sometimes I think, we think we are more important than we are.
I get what your saying but I struggle to see why after 2 losses against top 4 sides we are so incensed at the players so called lack of effort?

Personally if I break it down into 2 matches its not that bad in my mind.

1.we came up against the current champions in round 1. A side thats lost 6 times in 2 years. A side that ran out in front of its home crowd as champions for the first time in 12 months. A side that many were saying couldn't play without him or will miss them. A sidebthat had a point to prove.
Now yes I was dissapointed with the display as many were but again comps are not won in round 1. We held in there for a big part of the game with no possession and no position. Even in 21 we would have lost by 40+. To me that was progressing.

Game 2. Rooters lost to Newcastle big in round 1. Again point to prove just as we did but things didn't go our way. Not the end of the world.

The game has again changed this year thanks to tampering by the NRL. Its slow again almost back to the wrestle days. We will come good just need a bit of faith.

If its one thing I'm sure of our boys don't like losing and I'm sure they are hurting too.

We as fans take a lot of liberty being able to cheer one week and moan like a bitch next. Some of the abuse players get on this board is really sad and says a lot about some people.

If DCE was your son and some blokes were down at the pub bitching and moaning in earshot about this heart and desire im sure you might have a word.

This place isn't designed to have everyone get on. Just like the real world there will be disagreement and anger evident. We aren't all mates in the real world and in all honesty many on here would have already come to blows if it was possible. Thats life.

Wasn't particularly referring to DCE, I'm talking about the team. Look I'm the first person to say we were just outplayed in the first game, Penrith didn't give us any chance, great game plan. I am more concerned with game 2 that was plain dreadful.

 

[47MVEagle]

I can see both sides of the argument but I'm fine with constructive criticism (in any situation, not just in regards to the Sea Eagles).

It's the constant non-constructive criticism of players & the kneejerk drama immediately after a loss that irks me (after a while).

It turns into a case of "the grass is greener" very quickly, as can be seen with some people's comments recently of "letting Suli go" as if he was a huge loss for us (while I wanted to see him succeed, he was here for 4 years & never cemented a place in first grade) in light of Harper's performances so far.

EoL's right though, people on here were calling for Turbo to be offloaded at one point over the past 2 seasons, which I personally thought was ridiculous!

 

[Tragic Eagle]

We have the cattle on paper but no one to muster them on the field.

 

[Woodsie]

We have the cattle on paper but no one to muster them on the field.

What's the coach's job?

 

[47MVEagle]

What's the coach's job?

Hmmm, I'm starting to think you may have an agenda you're VERY SUBTLY promoting here Woodsie

 

[Woodsie]

Hmmm, I'm starting to think you may have an agenda you're VERY SUBTLY promoting here Woodsie

Not really .. i am not against Dessie ... but I do find that I am more often acting as a counter balance against the criticism of the players.

If players we have all seen excel, .. are suddenly playing poorly .. why.

How much is it game patterns and plans, fitness, coaching etc .

I just find the "our players are shiite" line far too simplistic and ignoring of other possibilities.

 

[47MVEagle]

Not really .. i am not against Dessie ... but I do find that I am more often acting as a counter balance against the criticism of the players.

If players we have all seen excel, .. are suddenly playing poorly .. why.

How much is it game patterns and plans, fitness, coaching etc .

I just find the "our players are shiite" line far too simplistic and ignoring of other possibilities.

Something I remember you said previously along the lines of "it takes so many variables to align to win a premiership but it takes only 1 of those many variables to fail to lose a premiership" is very true.

 

[EOL now nesting on the GC]

Wasn't particularly referring to DCE, I'm talking about the team. Look I'm the first person to say we were just outplayed in the first game, Penrith didn't give us any chance, great game plan. I am more concerned with game 2 that was plain dreadful.

I thought we went ok in second half. Had a dig and at least there were some positive play. Dont thing the rooters lifted off we just played better in the forwards which allowed a more even game.

 

[EOL now nesting on the GC]

you seem to know stuff , you just dont think it applies to you

One thing I do know is if we were at the same pub you would be with your mates and me with mine. Would be safe to assume never the 2 would cross.
Enjoy the rest of the season regardless of how well or ****e it ends up. Top 4 still calls and by seasons end we will be competing with the best sides.

 

[jbb/james]

One thing I do know is if we were at the same pub you would be with your mates and me with mine. Would be safe to assume never the 2 would cross.
Enjoy the rest of the season regardless of how well or ****e it ends up. Top 4 still calls and by seasons end we will be competing with the best sides.

there is no hatred here dude,I am a bit dismissive of your manner and you get a fair share of my weekly scoffing, but usually thats my silent protest

we have different views on DCE , big deal .i would probably see if we shared other interests, like maybe wallpaper.

BUT if your a wallpaper hater,in a pub full of wallpaper enthusiasts then STOP THE PIGEON, that could get messy if we bought gangs to the meet. at the very least we would turn our backs and give you a good shunning

But enjoy stuff and good luck with your move back.

 

[EOL now nesting on the GC]

there is no hatred here dude,I am a bit dismissive of your manner and you get a fair share of my weekly scoffing, but usually thats my silent protest

we have different views on DCE , big deal .i would probably see if we shared other interests, like maybe wallpaper.

BUT if your a wallpaper hater,in a pub full of wallpaper enthusiasts then STOP THE PIGEON, that could get messy if we bought gangs to the meet. at the very least we would turn our backs and give you a good shunning

But enjoy stuff and good luck with your move back.

Im not going to move back now.
Too dangerous I might come across you and your wallpaper mates at a match so safer to stay behind the keyboard at a distance of 10000miles.
In all honesty thou, I love wallpaper.
Catch you a Brookvale one day and we can discuss our 2022 premiership in person.

 

[Tragic Eagle]

What's the coach's job?

The get them ready for the muster.

 

[XV-1]

Sharks just score with 7 and 6 on same side of field and playing as a unit.

Take note DCE, Foran and Des!!

 

[double hoops]

I don't know that I could even say Foz had put a step out of place this year. If anything he's looked like he personally is in a fine vein of form, considering how the forward pack he is playing behind are going anyway.

DCE has looked out of sorts, but he always impersonates a headless chook, everytime he's trying to do to too much.

 

[DaveLP]

Said it last year and its the same again this year our spine is not good enough to trouble the top teams especially at hooker. Turbo can only do so much. Yes they can play well together but who cares about well when we want to win it all!

 

[XV-1]

DCE and Foran played on the same side of the field once tonight in the 2nd half and almost scored .

We need more

 

[Terry Zarsoff]

Is it working? Foran yes. The other bloke….no.

However it will now be about his winning FG - after about 75 minutes of rubbish he dished up.

 

[Terry Zarsoff]

DCE and Foran played on the same side of the field once tonight in the 2nd half and almost scored .

We need more

How are Tom’s hamstrings, Subaru Rice Burner -1?

 

[Remy]

Foran is holding up really strong and doing his job well.

 

[Nike]

Schuster straight swap with Foran when he's fit.

Foran isn't even bad or past it, the Shoe is just ready and we're a better team for him being in it.

Edit: or Foran goes to 9 like he was 'originally' picked up for. He's a goer but he doesn't win a game - Shoe doesn't lose them either.